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  • Beau on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    What causes the falling away before the anti christ ?

    I know it's a speculative question, but maybe someone has some insight granted but God .
  • Steven Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    Today status and serving seems to be the biggest focus amongst most church goers, now before we proceed, i go to church and love it, and i serve. but so do people in cult religions, we tend to try to teach discipleship, disciple means to follow some ones teachings, we are supposed to follow Jesus teachings, you cant do that with out the holy spirit which equipts us with the fruit of the spirit. Jesus apostles commanded to go out and preach to the world but to WAIT on the HOLY SPIRIT! we are identified as his disciples by the love we show one another read john 13:34-35. study all of john ch 13, you see the washing of the, you see a lesson in restoring and humility. the Jews religion was services which was a outwardly action, Christ in you is an inwardly action reflecting outwardly, look what Jesus tells the Pharisees in Mathews 23:25-26.. Woe unto you Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. today we compromise the truth, neglect the spirit, separate ourselves by pride, try to grow the church in volume apart from the gathering of the Holyspirit. the opposite of the way the church started in Acts 2:46-47. Lets pray we LOVE ONEANOTHER.
  • Steven Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    The love of many shall wax cold. and to suffer so many worldly traits to creep in the church, like pride, hautyness, no love for the brothern. taking on the world affairs and draging them in to the church. loving the nation more than the brothern. we supposed to be a light for the world not its ally.
  • Things that cause the Falling Away - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    The Democrats have made it illegal to sing in church.

    Illegal to have a full church.

    Illegal to be caught without a face mask in church. Huge fines on that.

    If people can't go to church when they want to, it will cause a falling away.

    There is church on FM radio 24 hours a day, plus some AM stations; Church on YouTube, Christian based movies on YouTube.

    Drop Netflix and pick up PUREFLIX: all Christian based movies and documentaries; plus children's programs.

    Stop paying high prices for satans networks.

    As the Christian group, Stryper, once sang: TO HELL WITH THE DEVIL. I like that song so sue me.

    Find one that rhymes with corrupted Democrats. In Albuquerque they made a drive to work song off the music of the Bangles; from their walk like an Egyptian song. It was called, "Drive Like An Albuquerquian". It was hilarious. Figure out how to mock the Democrats that want to tax us into debtors prison....in America?!?

    I'm not loving it at all.

    People click on that link out on the red link page and follow How To Become A Christian.

    Everything you need to know is on that link.

    The most important things.

    Ask to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Be brave and ask the Holy Spirit to take over your education in the most important things of God! Who is Jesus in your new life? How to pray to God? How to have faith he hears your prayer?

    How to forgive people whose guts you hate? How to forgive ourselves? Time is running out to get our business straight with God.

    Let's grow up in Jesus. He is greater and mightier than anything we did with the devil.

    New day! New man/woman of God. Brand new life that is now hid in Christ Jesus for eternity. Encourage yourself with the power of the Holy Spirit.

    Be back later, Mishael
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition", 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

    The answer might sound somewhat glib, but it is all to do with Satan, the enemy of our souls & hater of God & all goodness. The Apostle Paul's reference to it specifically refers to a noticeable period of time where, from within the Church, there will be those (maybe, many) who either turn their backs to Christ & His Gospel of Salvation or introduce false teaching that dilutes the truth & power of God's Word.

    Such apostasy from the teachings of Christ was evident from the early Church as Satan intruded into her midst, with those coming in having special wisdom, but actually were proponents of heresy, lies & deceit, bringing many into spiritual disrepair. Satan's tool was (& is) to give the Christian a sense of his own worth, his own knowledge & wisdom, his own power to control, that ultimately removes the believers' understanding of his position in Christ & utter dependency upon Him. Generally, such 'new' thoughts are commonly referred to as 'Gnostiscm' with its branch, 'Docetism', which has played havoc with the Church then as it does now. This is a huge subject, which you might be better served to study online, which essentially denies or dilutes everything that Christ & the apostles have taught, placing man on a higher plane than should be afforded him.

    The Apostle John dealt with this in his First Epistle & so this letter becomes particularly meaningful to the reader, if one understands the devilish teaching of the Gnostics. And of course, we have the many 'Christian' religious offshoots, cults, sects, etc. that also introduce teaching foreign to the proper understanding of God's Word, bending it to suit their belief system.

    Before that day of Christ's Return, we are warned to be aware of this increasing corruption in the Church & revelation of the Anti-Christ.
  • Beau - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    With your explanation it would tend me to believe this falling away happened over a very long period of time , perversion of the truth . I can see that happening . So then there would be virtually no true Christians left , with the exception of a few , as in Noah's time only 8 people and that was just 1 family actually was faithful in Gods eyes . Noah found grace .

    Or the falling away could be a dramatic event or series of them in a short time to cause a notable falling away . One thing that seems obvious to me is it seems to be accelerating , but also many are noticing it as well . i personally think the Antichrist and his arrival are not all that soon , but I can see things developing, I read in Daniel that when sin reaches its full then he appears , so the falling away will be very much complete. We have lots to be thankful for still .

    God is faithful to all generations.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    I believe you're correct in saying, "it (falling away) seems to be accelerating". As we move closer to the end of days & of the revelation of the Anti-Christ, what always inflicted the Church in its beginnings will continue & become more evident & rampant towards the end. There is much syncretism going on at present, with religions trying their utmost to find common ground & common faith, even to the disregarding of vital & precious doctrines, & diluting the power of the Cross.

    So I believe that 'falling away' is not just an individual matter about a person turning aside from Christ, that it is, rather that the Church (if indeed they ever held onto the Truth), has wilfully lost its focus & beliefs for the cause of being accepted by all & to have peace & unity with all religions & peoples. Jesus said, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." ( Matthew 10:34). If that were to happen within one's household as Jesus said, how much more shall the sword of Truth be wielded upon those who despise the Truth & make the Cross of no effect & a lie. The Gospel will always cut to the heart & expose wickedness. If it were ever to be used to join all men together in harmony, then it would have been given out in error & in the end, both the 'preacher of this nonsense' & the hearer of those 'gracious words', will both be damned.
  • Yvonne dennis - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    Judgment is forbidden we are the Temple of GOD. the Temple of truth sacrificial suffering mat.5:10 peacemaking ch.5:9 inward purity ch.5:8 mercifulness ch.5:7 spiritual hunger ch.5:6 meeknessch.5:5 penitence ch.5:4 Hummility ch.5:3
  • Beau - In Reply on Matthew 7 - 3 years ago
    I was thinking about this just before I

    Read your response ,

    The modern age of science is contrary often to faith , yet has no answers to the big issues unless you believe a theory .

    It's says that many will say where is the promise of his coming and turn away from truth .seems all religions will pave the way for Antichrist and not be able to resist his outrageous claims . Also the Antichrist will exalt himself above all that is called God and not find much resistance enough to over throw him , but the Lord will do that himself ! :)



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