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  • Lisa hines on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    A women should not wear what pertains to a man so certain jobs give you uniforms such as police woman, housekeeping, nurses, jail mates, and construction workers all wear pants. But when they go to church they wear dresses is this still abomination?
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    If we consider the era & background to which this warning was given by God, we might view this Scripture in a different light. We need to remember that in those days, there was very little by way of separating the type of clothing men & women wore. And especially when men generally had long beards, their appearance would have brought ridicule rather than acceptance. As well, amongst the heathen, there were occasions when the sexes took on each other's apparel in their idol worship. And in this regard, one commentator looking at the Hebrew wording, suggests that the reference was to women wearing the armour that pertained to a man of war: women needed to wear this as they appeared before their goddess, Venus.

    When living & serving in Pakistan, both men & women who chose to wear the national dress (called, Salwar Kamiz), had the cut of the clothing exactly the same as each other, except for a possible design printed for the woman's dress & a light shawl tossed over both shoulders. So I feel that the Deuteronomy 22:5 reference should not today be viewed as the sexes interchanging clothing, or a woman requiring to wear pants for work or leisure. The point was that the clothing worn had to be clearly acceptable as normal attire for the sexes & that the man shouldn't 'disguise' himself to be a woman & vice versa, as pertains to those classed as 'transvestites'. In India, I saw this often on the trains, where such men wore women's clothes (saris), to aid their begging efforts.

    So I understand the Scripture being directed to those who purposely wore another's clothing for reasons other than what is considered normal & acceptable in society. I think the more pertinent issue today however, is how we dress for the beach, or how we try to present ourselves to the opposite sex in a seductive way, or wearing expensive clothing to convey class distinction. The world might consider this absolutely normal, but does God see that way & whether His children follow their example?
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    Pertaining to worship, does scripture not say a woman should have her head covered? IN other words, the "glory of God" (man) is to be uncovered during times of worship, while the "glory of man" (woman) is to be covered. Angels: In 1 Corinthians 11:10, Paul says "Therefore the woman ought to have power on her head, because of the angels. "So , this reveals something interesting. In him we live and move and have our being, Since angels are the messengers, would this be in fact the way, the angels identify the children of God? And therefor communicate accordingly? This becomes even more interesting Since I have such a difficult time understanding the woman . This would prove that the spirit is very much alive and well. That the Kingdom exists and is in control! However, this covering should not be taken for granted!
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    The covering is talking about hair. A woman should not have a mans haircut and a man should not have long hair. Sometimes we have no choice, if we go bald. But the point is a woman should not be or dress like a man and the man should not put on womens clothes. Like gay men and women do.
  • Sharon M Jacobs - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    We should dress modest and modestly. shirts around the neck. short sleeves. shorts and dresses and skirts to the knees. and shoes that cover the foot, most of our shoes should cover the whole foot, and have one pair of sandles, as much as possible. This is how we should dress around ourselves alone and with other people and especially with our husband or wife. Swim suits should be like shorts with a skirt over the shorts for women and modest top not showing anything of her top.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    Are all of the clothing designers pushing leggings on the shelves? Or is it just Walmart?

    I'm almost 70 lol. I have a theory that if we sit too much, our bodies rebel and shift around to the front of us.

    Tight clothes are like tattoos: they don't look cool on elderly bodies. Ponder on that.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    Humanly speaking, you would be correct. I hope you are not a humanist! This makes sense. Man is loosing his identity, the angels not knowing how too communicate with the soul! The Angels are the messengers that influence us according to his will! Clothing will become an issue in the future, it must be understood, that if you are a man, you will be expected to act like one! This will be hard for many to understand. During the V.N. war the enemy wore black, even the little ones! It was impossible to tell who was who. Only the enemy! this caused many problems at home , when they heard we were killing the woman and the children!
  • Raising Leaders - In Reply on Deuteronomy 22 - 3 years ago
    Our work is unto the Lord. He is Top Boss. He knows if we're obedient or slothful; give a fair days work, for a fair days wage. Promotions come when we do our work quietly without becoming involved in work politics, gossip or backbiting.

    If your work boss provides a standard of dress for employees, we obey that requirement. Especially if uniforms are provided. For most people our dress should be modest and represent Christ.

    Worldly people routinely dress to find dates or hook ups. Avoid that. We dress for Jesus.

    I know what Paul taught and it was good for that time, and for this time we are living in. Just be led by the Holy Spirit and there will be no confusion.

    I'm often saddened by the parents that end up on Dr Phil with their teen children who dress like male/female prostitutes. An entire hour is spent on how do I regain status as the parent?

    I'm a parent and a Christian. You do not ever budge an inch on what the "World" demands we do: versus what God says about modesty and basic intellect. YOU CONTROL THE MONEY. If you lose control, you will lose the child to the worldly world. You sow the seeds of rebellion and co-dependence. You want to be "loved" by your kids: they need your money to look like their worldly, popular, friends.

    They are trying to belong to their peer groups. Not Jesus.

    I taught my son frequently that it takes a lot more courage to be a LEADER, than it does to become an aimless FOLLOWER. I didn't nag or drill his head. I challenged him. I rewarded him with praise for right choices and living.

    This is our reward for launching a child of God into the world. They meet less obstacles than the kids who never learned how to live leadership skills. Leaders learn from other leaders. It's not hard to do. The Bible teaches it.

    If the church and the parents fail to teach it: how else are they going to learn it?

    Also let them pay your monthly bills for you; balance checkbook; see real life finances 101.

    Mishael



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