Bible Discussion Thread

  • Ron on 1 John 1
    Which books did the disciples learn from ? Or did they just take God at his word from scriptures?
  • Jesus and the Disciples - in Reply on 1 John 1
    The Jews had a Torah. I think Jesus taught His disciples along their daily travels. The persons who later wrote: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John: the Gospels. They all saw and heard the same events; had similar records but from their perspective.

    My friend Chris can tell you lots more about that. Keep an eye out for him later.

    We're his disciples too. I think it's a good thing to keep a notebook and write down things that the Holy Spirit shows us through our bible studies with Him. He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. He tells us many things about Jesus. Fresh and new each day.

    Jesus is at the right hand Of Father, God. He ever lives to make Intercession for All Saints. That's us! If there's a question you must have an answer to; ask it. Turn off the media, get quiet and listen with your heart. You will hear Him there.

    When the Holy Spirit speaks, there is joy, life and incredible feeling in your heart area. Powerful and tender. His voice is soft.

    Warning! Sometimes satan might try to speak. His advise causes fear, not because of what he says, but because his voice is evil. Jesus's sheep do not respond to it.

    Rebuke his lies in the name of Jesus.

    Come along with Jesus.

  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Jesus' disciples had God's Living Word, made flesh, with them. They also had the Scriptures (what we call the Old Testament) but the disciples were simple, often uneducated, men who would have had a very limited knowledge of the Scriptures. However, with Jesus teaching them (not just from the Word, but giving them the full intended meaning of the Word) & showing them how to live God's Way, the disciples could have no better Teacher to instruct them.
  • Ron - in Reply on 1 John 1
    1st Thessalonians v 5

    I read this morning and it said

    We received the word in power and the Holy Spirit , not in word alone .

    Not in those exact words .

    But the thought is the Holy Spirit is all the difference .

    Other wise it's just a mans religion as there are many .

    We should have the power to do what Jesus commands and apostles teach .

    Or is not genuine .

    Make sure we are doers and not hearers only deceiving our selves.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Ron, I agree with you completely: without the Holy Spirit's help, the Word of God is only a Book of Words & our preaching could be a just a display of oratory skills. In 1 Thessalonians 1:5 which you shared, Paul said that he gave them the Gospel not just in clear & concise teaching, but with, & in demonstration of, the Spirit's Power. So, it's all of God: the Word/Gospel shared, the power within it & in its delivery, & for the interpretation & conviction in the hearts of the hearers. We're merely the humble & weak tools in the Hands of God to bring forth such a wonderful, heart & life changing Message.

    Christ's disciples, in their 'raw' state had not the Spirit of God, except when they were specially endued for service (Luke 9:1). They had both the pure Word of God & His Spirit amongst them that radically altered their conceptions & misconceptions of God's requirements for them & the people. They then had the knowledge but minus the Power. What a time that would have been for them on the day of Pentecost. Both the hearer (when they heard messages in their languages as witness of the outpouring of the Spirit), & the apostles themselves (as they suddenly sensed the entrance of the Spirit to bring them brilliant Light & understanding into their hearts), would have had an experience 'of a lifetime' in that room. And the witness they had of the Lord & His Spirit not only empowered them, but emboldened them, to be His witnesses unto the laying down of their lives. Do we see, or can we see, such a display of Holy Ghost Power & conviction? It might not always be seen overtly but certainly seen in the believers' confidence & resolve to live for & serve the Living God.
  • Ron - in Reply on 1 John 1
    The grace of God through the work of the Holy Spirit gives us the victory over sin the devil and the world more so as we grow in grace and the knowledge of God .

    But there are also false spirits counterfeit Christians . Real power but they can not give the victory in the above mentioned , because they are not of God .

    I have met people with spiritual power and presence, but not of God . So we need to know sound doctrine found only in the Bible , the very word of God
  • Ron - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Peter was a brave disciple , even dared to walk on water for a moment til fear over took him .

    Peter was under Jesus teachings as well as we know As the NT says .

    Peter denied the Lord 3 times etc .

    But under the power of the Holy Spirit Peter preached to the same ones he feared .

    And Peter seemed to do much better under the Holy spirits influence, Than under Jesus influence.

    According to what is written .

    So it shows that the scriptures and Holy Spirits influences are excellent! More complete?


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