Bible Discussion Thread

  • Eric on Exodus 19
    Does anybody believe this to be true?

    The kingdom of God resides inside of us. When you accept Jesus as your savior your body becomes a house of God. Immediately a battle begins inside of you between evil and good where good begins to purge our evil. As you continue to walk in obedience more evil (junk from sin) gets replaced with good (the kingdom inside of you is growing) this is why Jesus said seek first the kingdom of God and that a house divided cannot stand. When Christians walk half in half...half with God half with sin they usually tend to be in struggle within themselves and with life in general. Because the battle within rages. As you walk in obedience the good purges the, the kingdom is growing. The bigger the kingdom the smoother the walk and easier to resist sin and the world becomes less desirable. After a certain amount of time Jesus "comes" with the visitation and checks out your kingdom. If it's worthy and so far as to say the temple is complete he moves in and becomes king of your kingdom within. If not he leaves until he "comes" again to see if you've got it right. This is what the inheritance of Christ is.

    Has anyone heard this before and anyone have thoughts on this?

  • GETTING CONFIRMATION on teachings - in Reply on Exodus 19
    Everybody reads and may interpret scripture differently. That's why I read the Commentary on this website. Also, I Google "Bible Commentary____scripture______"

    And the google search engine goes and fetches what I want to investigate.

    Then select a KJV commentator to read his take on that scripture. In the mouth of many, the Bible truth should be established: what points people agree on.

    It's like how it would be if we were quizzing all 12 Apostles plus Paul. Everyone saw the same thing but wrote it identical but from their point of view with their experience with Jesus and through the Light of revelation through the Holy Spirit. He always testifies of Jesus Christ.

    By reading many Commentaries you glean the best part of each one. ALWAYs ask the Holy Spirit to CONFIRM the Word of Truth.

    That's how I do it. Chris does too.

    If I hear something sorta wild, I go get it confirmed by scripture and read a lot on it before I open my mouth. Some things I don't respond to because I already did. It's back in the history pages somewhere.

    Sometimes I think people are scared of commentaries? It's a helps book. Every year at Back-to-school sales; I go get a half dozen notebooks to scribble notes and teachings in.

    I hardly watch television anymore. It's all cotton candy programming. :D
  • Eric - in Reply on Exodus 19
    Thank you

    Prophet of tiny faith

    Be well.

    Jesus loves you
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 19
    What Adam has written is quite correct: it is the Holy Spirit Who takes up residence in those born again by Him. What you describe (taken from another source I guess), as God's Kingdom in us growing to bring us to maturity, is actually God's Spirit Who is doing the work of bringing us into deeper sanctification & maturing into Christ-likeness. The "battle that rages" within is that of the old carnal nature that is at war with the new nature from God. That is why the Apostle Paul said to "Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would." ( Galatians 5:16,17). And in verse 24, "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." So there is nothing to suggest God's Kingdom getting bigger in us, rather that we have determined to put aside sin & not obey its enticements - not allowing the carnal nature to control us, but God's Spirit given full control.

    Now, there is a Scripture that some could use to support their errant belief: Luke 17:21, "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." The Greek word for 'within' is 'entos' which can mean 'within or among'. Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees who certainly did not recognize nor accept Jesus as Messiah, so the meaning of 'within' wouldn't apply as they were certainly not holy vessels for God to come upon or within. I believe Jesus was speaking about Himself Who was already 'within their midst/amongst them' & they couldn't see Him because of their blindness & hardness of their hearts.

    So when we allow the Holy Spirit to have more of our lives by being moved by Him rather than by our carnal flesh, then in truth, God's Spirit will delight to reign in His children & we shall see God's Hand move in wonderful ways in our lives. 2 Corinthians 6:16.
  • Adam - in Reply on Exodus 19
    Hi Eric, I don't believe that a kingdom of God is inside, especially when no verses are shared to back up the idea. Bible reading Christians cite the Bible as their source of truth, and shouldn't cite other men or ideas from other books or movies. It sounds like something someone just made up this narrative.

    I believe Christians have the holy spirit inside them, but not a kingdom. Satan loves to twist and deceive people into thinking they're their own god- it's a common trick and there's even entire religions founded on such a deception. I believe we will have an opportunity to enter heaven after this life and after judgment. There's a verse that says to lay your treasures in heaven, not on earth. If someone wants to know what that means they should keep reading the Bible and pursue it.
  • Eric - in Reply on Exodus 19
    Thank you for your comments. The truth is the truth no matter what man had to say about it. I should've have said the Son of Man "comes" not Jesus. I'm curious about "children and the building of a city establish a man's name". That's just one tiny verse that speaks of the coming kingdom. One day we will be named Israel. And one day Elijah will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, before the day of the Lord "comes".

    If your faith and love is so strong for the Lord and his word that you commit your life to honoring him. Whether you're right or wrong in your interpretation, God knows his people.

    We're saved by grace from true faith.

    Spread love and teach forgiveness.


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