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  • Stacey Haigood on Genesis 25 - 3 years ago
    Is Esau the son of Satan
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 25 - 3 years ago
    No Stacey. Esau, as his brother Jacob, were the offspring of Isaac & Rebekah. Satan does not bear physical children - He bears spiritual children, of which we all were once when we obeyed him rather than the living Holy God. When Jesus accused the religious leaders of their wickedness, He said that they were the children of the Devil ( John 8:44): not that the Devil was their physical father, but was their spiritual father as he filled them with his words & works of evil.

    So Esau was Isaac's son but because of the deception by his brother Jacob & therefore missing out on the blessing from Isaac, Esau left the home, married foreign women, became wealthy & became the father of the Edomites, as also likely, the Kenizzites & Amalekites. Eventually, the brothers did reconcile (Genesis chapter 33), but it remained that Esau's progeny were never included in Jacob's line. Because Esau did what he did, does not give us any warrant to ever think of him as a product of some demonic relationship.
  • Bill Ben Yasrael - In Reply on Genesis 25 - 2 years ago
    I totally disagree with you, Jacob did not deceive Esau, Esau sold his birthright for some pottage (red stew), you people keep putting out this false information. Esau knew what he was doing and did not care, you must be of his lineage. Esau did not respect his birthright established by: "THE MOST HIGH". He wanted his cake and to eat it. To make matters worse he deceived his father Isaac, he could have told Isaac: "Father I sold my birthright to Jacob for some pottage. He was an arrogant disobedient son, look what he did married foreign women his father told him not to and: "He caused Isaac and Rebekah grief". You are incorrect Esau's behavior and that of his progeny give us Great cause to reflect on his evil deeds. All his seed does is go in to countries, kill the native people, make wars and spread hate and pollute this world, but his reign of Terror is over, now is the time of: "Jacob" says: "THE MOST HIGH".
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 25 - 2 years ago
    Well Bill, you've stated your point with some strong language. I see that you clearly condemn Esau in what he did, by selling his birthright - and I agree that was very wrong for him to do such a thing. And then you placed the deception on Esau by him not telling his father Isaac what he had done with his birthright. Yes, I can see that also. And then you wrote further on his misdeeds.

    And you think that Rebekah & Jacob did no wrong in all this? Are we reading from the same Scriptures? Where was the brotherly love of Jacob when seeing his weakened brother beg him for food? Even the vilest person this day will have some compassion for his siblings. What did he do? He took advantage of Esau's physical predicament to trade food for his birthright. And if this is not enough for any to cringe with amazement & anger, we read further in Genesis chapter 27 of Rebekah & Jacob's further sins. Sins of deception & lies that lay in their hearts.

    Esau well said in verse 36, "Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing." And yes, Esau was equally to be blamed for his loss. But the Plan of God had to come to pass ( Genesis 25:23, "And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger."). In spite of God's Plan, man is still accountable for the conduct of his life and he will not be held guiltless for his sins.

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  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 25 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your voice of disagreement, Bill. We have stated our positions - let others who are acquainted with this account be the judge of the matter.
  • Lauren - In Reply on Genesis 25 - 2 years ago
    Chris, I really appreciate your manner of teaching and your tone. I find it easy to learn of a calm, quiet spirit. Thank you. I am new to this KJV site, and it has been such a blessing to learn more, and be more in the Word. Blessings to both you and Bill, and thank you for stirring up my love of the Scriptures....



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