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  • Butch on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    In Acts chapter 2 the day the New Testament Church began, on the day of Pentecost, they were baptized in the name of Jesus, then in act chapter 8 the Samaritans were baptized in the name of Jesus, then in Acts chapter 10 the Gentiles were baptized in the name of Jesus, then in act chapter 19 Paul said to the Ephesians that were the followers of John the Baptist ask them if they received the Holy Ghost since they believed and they end up receiving the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues just like and Acts chapter 2 and Acts chapter 10 and they were re baptized in the name of Jesus, my question is why do most of the churches when they baptize you they use the titles Father Son and Holy Ghost and not the name Jesus, Father Son and Holy Ghost are not names, Hebrews 1 and 4 said that he inherited his name he inherits his name from his father which was Kept Secret in the Old Testament but revealed in the New Testament?
  • Hugo Zyl - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    God bless you brother Butch

    The answer you are looking for is in the history of Christianity. The Trinity doctrine started early in the 2nd century and caused confusion for a very long time until in the year 325 AD there was a meeting in Rome called the Nicene Council where many of the "big" church leaders of the day went to formalize what they thought was the correct doctrine of the Godhead and baptism formula. They decided that the Trinity is the true doctrine of God's nature and that to be baptized in the 3 titles was the correct baptism. This has continued on until the present time by most churches. The glorious reformation under Martin Luther and others in the 15th century did unfortunately not throw out this false doctrine and false baptism.

    The correct baptism is the Bible baptism: in the name of the Lord Jesus or the name of Jesus Christ. If I may say, you quoted the Scriptures wrongly. There is no baptism in the name of Jesus recorded in the Bible.

    Being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ is perfect in that it is correctly following the pattern, i.e., we die with Christ, we rise with Christ, we are filled with the Spirit of Christ. Therefore we worship our one and only Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (thus fulfilling the words of Jesus in Matthew 28 "...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost")

    Peace and love in Christ
  • FRED SCANLAN - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    Is it not true that the holy spirit is part of the trinity? The spirit is the comforter that jesus told us about. We in fact have communion with this spirit always beholding the face of christ! Is this not amazing!
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    It is amazing that you don't believe the Holy Spirit Is a part of the trinity. Father, Son and the Holy Spirit .
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    I/m sorry, if I miss lead you! Yes ,I do believe and know that the Holy Spirit is a person in the trinity ."Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."
  • Sharon M Jacobs - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    First of all we have to know what the holy spirit is. and that is nature. the spirit of the trees, mountains, rain, wind, rocks, waters, fruits and vegetables that are filled with water, sunlight, air, moonlight all natural and of the spirit to fill our bodies with this energy of spirit and surround with with the spirit also of nature. Therefore if we eat fruits and vegetables with water, new, fresh and not cooked, we will be literally eating spirit for our body, mind, and soul. do that every day and night for the rest of your lives, instead of eating dead animal meat with blood in it, and not drinking live animals white blood fluids called milk. and not wear animal cow skins, cow hides leather, bird feathers, sheep wool, or fox or mink fur of animals. wear cotton, linen, fleece, velvet or vinyl fabrics of clothes and shoes. this is better for us and eternal.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    Psalm 29, speaks of his creation, like you. How marvelous are his ways and past finding out!
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    Sharon, I feel compelled to say that you are altogether wrong in your understanding of God's Holy Spirit. This is nothing less than utter blasphemy & I would sincerely request you to read the Scriptures and learn who God is & the Blessed Holy Spirit He has sent to convict the world of its sin, righteousness, and coming judgement. To even suggest that the Spirit is connected to material things in the natural world is gross error & are musings from your mind & not from the Word of God.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    In reference to "why do Churches baptize in the Name of the Trinity?" They use Matthew 28:19 as their directive for doing so. Though I suppose, given the use of the Name of Jesus only for baptising (as according to the portions you have cited), then this too would be appropriate because of apostolic/early Church precedent.

    The Letter to the Hebrews is essentially the author's goal to demonstrate the superiority of Jesus Christ & therefore, of Christianity, to the prophets (1:1-3), to the angels (1:4-2:18) and to Moses (3:1-6). The rest of the letter gives Christ's superiority by His Priesthood (5:1-10:39) and by His Own Power (11:1-13:19).

    But looking at Hebrews 1:4: Jesus status as the Son of God was a far greater status to that of angels. To no angel did God say, "Thou art My Son, this day have I begotten Thee". And when the First begotten came into the world, God said, "And let all the angels of God worship Him". This the Hebrews writer took from Psalm 97:7 and Deuteronomy 32:43, from the Septuagint version, though not in the Hebrew/KJV. So the Name of Jesus, as also His Divine Birth, made Him far greater than that of angels, which some might have proposed Him to be ranked with. And this Jesus came in "the brightness of God's Glory & the express Image of His Person, after He Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right Hand of the Majesty on High" ( Heb 1:3). I don't see from these Scriptures, or anywhere else, that Jesus ever took on the Person of the Father, rather at present He is seated beside Him in Heaven. Are you thinking of a Scripture when suggesting "Jesus inherits his name from his father which was Kept Secret in the Old Testament but revealed in the New Testament"?
  • FRED SCANLAN - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 3 years ago
    Are we not baptized into jesus death and raised again as new creatures in his ressurection! We are now alive in him? Glory of God that surpasses all understanding!



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