Bible Discussion Thread

Verse 22 and 23

If you do not believe that Jesus is who God said he is My SON , then if

You make Jesus anyone other than Gods witness you are creating another Jesus , for example GOD the Son or apart of a triune God . That's not the witness of God , Any other than what God said This is my Son is a denial of Gods very witness .

Any Jesus other than the one born in Bethlehem in the flesh and born of God . Is a lie and foreign to the truth . And Antichrist.

Who comes first the father or the son ?

A good question, many would struggle with it and find themselves in the chicken or the egg situation. The reality God was there always, so the question of 'first' wouldn't be right. God, Jesus the Son, and Holy spirit are all in one. They cannot be separated from each other. There are many verses in the bible say the same. Also, there are only 6 days of creation according to the bible. And no where is it mentioned that Jesus was created!!

God the Father, Jesus the Son and Holy spirit all are outside the realm of time and space. As such it is difficult for many to understand how can something be forever without being created but that is the truth.

They all were present even before the creation.

Other scripture as a fellow brother suggested, was John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Also in John 1.14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Hope this helps.

Many verses trintarians use like Jesus is the word would say the son came first if they really believe those verses saying it is Jesus .

All backwards

I'm sorry Rob, but this statement seems backwards. So if I spoke a word to you, you would say the word was there before I was?? God Almighty, the Father, is the Most High. Jesus Christ is the first beloved Son of God. They are a part of each other.

So now you're calling people who believe that Jesus Christ existed before He was born on earth a "cult"? Seriously, maybe just ease up and wait to ask Jesus Christ yourself? Come on brother.

Such as Jesus said in John 17:5:

"And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."

Jesus was born of God !

Does that help you ?

Let's get over this false doctrine. Of the trinity!

Why was Jesus born in Bethlehem? Think about it !

He did not have a mans flesh !

Can you put 2and 2 together?

Another precious verse you've given, Bendito, proving the eternal existence of Jesus, the Word, Who shared in the Glory of God.

Glory to the LORD! He hides precious gems in plain sight and we get to dig them out ;)

I was right about you the first time Rich , spare your words and try repentance some time !