Bible Discussion Thread

Very interesting to read that the 12 disciples will sit on Thrones in heaven with Jesus and judge the 12 tribes of Israel at Judgement day. It is shocking to read this knowing Judas was one of the 12 disciples. Does this mean even though he betrayed Jesus and hung himself he is and will be with the Lord forever??? It is making me rethink many things about Judas and God's plans

No Judas is not in Heaven. Did Judas have a relationship with God just because he followed Jesus and hung around Him? This relationship must occur on a Spiritual level to separate a person from the world. Not talking about leaving the world, but worldly things. Judas managed the money for the disciples. He was to give to the poor and buy food for them. This role is not by coincidence. Jesus used this to demonstrate that Judas' ties to this kept him with a worldly vision for Jesus and not understanding his need for a Spiritual relationship with The Father.

"You were the anointed cherub who covers,

And I placed you there.

You were on the holy mountain of God;

You walked in the midst of the stones of fire.

You were blameless in your ways

From the day you were created

Until unrighteousness was found in you.

By the abundance of your trade

You were internally filled with violence,

And you sinned;

Therefore I have cast you as profane

From the mountain of God.

And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub,

From the midst of the stones of fire."

Ezekiel 28:14-16 (NASB)

Judas will not go to Heaven. The disiple that took Judas place will take his place in Heaven. I forget his name, but you can look it up.

To "Tim on Matthew 19" RE: Judas.

Remember, Matthias replaced Judas as a discipline, so still 12.