God Gave witness about His Son Jesus and this witness is greater than any compilation of men's attempt to explain Jesus .
So who do you believe reader Gods witness or men's attempt to explain who Jesus is ?
When Did God give witness? I can recall because it's recorded by those that witnessed it .
One of the qualifications for Judas replacement was that he had to be present at the baptism of Jesus . To be a witness of God s witness of his Only begotten Son norm in Bethlehem, Jesus .
On the mount transfiguration again God gave witness, what did God say ? Read it ! Believe it !
Read the whole chapter of 1 John 4 , keep things in context , don't cherry pick from all over the scriptures and form a doctrine .
We all know, or the ones this is pointed towards, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. "The firstborn among many brethren".
Just one question. You stated this "If you have a verse that proves Jesus Born in Bethlehem was in heaven before then you have a valid point." Is John 6:38-39 not enough? Which to me looks like the exact answer to the statement you made.
How's Revelations 19:13. That is supposed to be Christ at His second coming. Correct?
I'll state this. I believe it is quiet over simplified of people saying "Jesus and God are the same thing". I don't Believe that and don't agree with it. They most definitely are a part of one another. Jesus Christ even said in John 14:28 "I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." Many other things I could quote that shows they are unique to each other. But as in 1 John 5:7 "these three are one." The Father, the Son(or Word), and the Holy Ghost are all a part of the Eternal Godhead.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God that was born from a virgin, on earth, in the flesh, in Bethlehem. What about John the baptizer stating in John 1:15 "John bare witness of him(Jesus), and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."
May the Lord Bless us to all come together and have faith and trust in Him. I would never call myself smart. All Glory to the Father. Love one another my brothers and sisters. God Bless us all!
It's not a doctrine! It's in scripture all over the Bible. It's a fact that you refuse to perceive rightly.
It means loss of rewards at the Bema Seat Judgment Of Christ Jesus, when All Christians works will pass through fire.
If you have caused baby Christians to fall away from believing that every word on the Bible is rock solid, you may face loss of reward.
We need to be aware this. Commenting is to shed Light...not darkness on Truth: who is a Person, Jesus. It is NOT about spinning a new way to see a foundational truth.
For what reason would we spin controversy that may cause a baby lamb or sheep to fall away? Nothing can be added to, or taken away from what is written and recorded in the Bible.
Jesus said, I and my Father are one and the same; several times, in the Bible. PERIOD.
In no way do I approve what other people add or subtract from that statement. I hope someday you will realize that the one reason for denying Truth, to teach others another way; is PRIDE. Something that God hates.
Well, you're calling things in the Bible blasphemous. We're not making this up. No one, not me anyway, is reducing God from being the Father or the Most High. Even Jesus Christ states several times that the Father is greater than Him. Christ is still the Messiah who existed before the earth was created.
I don't judge or condemn anyone for anything. God is our Eternal Father and I build upon the foundation of Jesus Christ is Lord.
I prayed to God for over twenty years. Not believing in Jesus Christ. No prayers got answered. Once I accepted Jesus Christ everything changed. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father.
The unity of the Father and the Son, is much like the unity of husband and wife. That is the best way we can understand it. The Bible clearly speaks of: God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. But emphasizes that there is only ONE God.
If we were to use math, it would not be, 1+1+1=3. It would be 1x1x1=1. God is a triune God.
Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity.
Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration would be the sun. From it we receive light, heat and radiation. Three distinct aspects, but only one sun.
No illustration is going to be perfect.
But from the very beginning we see God as a Trinity. In the book of Genesis, the first book in the Bible, God says, "Let us make man in our imagemale and female he created them."1 You see here a mixture of plural and singular pronouns.
When Moses asked God for his name, God replied, "I am" - eternally existing.
Jesus used the same phrase numerous times.
"I am the light of the world..."
"I am the bread of life..."
"I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Abraham is someone mentioned in Genesis, thousands of years before Jesus came to earth. Yet, Jesus said of himself, "Before Abraham was born, I am." The Jews understood fully what Jesus was saying because they picked up stones to kill him for "blasphemy" - claiming to be God. 2 Jesus has always existed.
God Gave witness about His Son Jesus and this witness is greater than any compilation of men's attempt to explain Jesus .
So who do you believe reader Gods witness or men's attempt to explain who Jesus is ?
When Did God give witness? I can recall because it's recorded by those that witnessed it .
One of the qualifications for Judas replacement was that he had to be present at the baptism of Jesus . To be a witness of God s witness of his Only begotten Son norm in Bethlehem, Jesus .
On the mount transfiguration again God gave witness, what did God say ? Read it ! Believe it !
Read the whole chapter of 1 John 4 , keep things in context , don't cherry pick from all over the scriptures and form a doctrine .
A doctrine is in its own context .
May the truth set you free !
We all know, or the ones this is pointed towards, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. "The firstborn among many brethren".
Just one question. You stated this "If you have a verse that proves Jesus Born in Bethlehem was in heaven before then you have a valid point." Is John 6:38-39 not enough? Which to me looks like the exact answer to the statement you made.
How's Revelations 19:13. That is supposed to be Christ at His second coming. Correct?
I'll state this. I believe it is quiet over simplified of people saying "Jesus and God are the same thing". I don't Believe that and don't agree with it. They most definitely are a part of one another. Jesus Christ even said in John 14:28 "I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." Many other things I could quote that shows they are unique to each other. But as in 1 John 5:7 "these three are one." The Father, the Son(or Word), and the Holy Ghost are all a part of the Eternal Godhead.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God that was born from a virgin, on earth, in the flesh, in Bethlehem. What about John the baptizer stating in John 1:15 "John bare witness of him(Jesus), and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."
May the Lord Bless us to all come together and have faith and trust in Him. I would never call myself smart. All Glory to the Father. Love one another my brothers and sisters. God Bless us all!
They would realize just how blasphemous the God head doctrine really is !
First of all it reduces God the father from his rightful and sovereign position as Creator of all thing .
I would not want to stand before him with the trinity doctrine hanging above me !
Flee the wrath to come !
Rob
It means loss of rewards at the Bema Seat Judgment Of Christ Jesus, when All Christians works will pass through fire.
If you have caused baby Christians to fall away from believing that every word on the Bible is rock solid, you may face loss of reward.
We need to be aware this. Commenting is to shed Light...not darkness on Truth: who is a Person, Jesus. It is NOT about spinning a new way to see a foundational truth.
For what reason would we spin controversy that may cause a baby lamb or sheep to fall away? Nothing can be added to, or taken away from what is written and recorded in the Bible.
Jesus said, I and my Father are one and the same; several times, in the Bible. PERIOD.
In no way do I approve what other people add or subtract from that statement. I hope someday you will realize that the one reason for denying Truth, to teach others another way; is PRIDE. Something that God hates.
Mishael
I'm quite happy in the Lord even losing sleep because of his blessing !
The word just comes alive like when Jesus spoke it to people!
Awesome get some !
I don't judge or condemn anyone for anything. God is our Eternal Father and I build upon the foundation of Jesus Christ is Lord.
I prayed to God for over twenty years. Not believing in Jesus Christ. No prayers got answered. Once I accepted Jesus Christ everything changed. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father.
God Bless you.
If we were to use math, it would not be, 1+1+1=3. It would be 1x1x1=1. God is a triune God.
Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity.
Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration would be the sun. From it we receive light, heat and radiation. Three distinct aspects, but only one sun.
No illustration is going to be perfect.
But from the very beginning we see God as a Trinity. In the book of Genesis, the first book in the Bible, God says, "Let us make man in our imagemale and female he created them."1 You see here a mixture of plural and singular pronouns.
When Moses asked God for his name, God replied, "I am" - eternally existing.
Jesus used the same phrase numerous times.
"I am the light of the world..."
"I am the bread of life..."
"I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Abraham is someone mentioned in Genesis, thousands of years before Jesus came to earth. Yet, Jesus said of himself, "Before Abraham was born, I am." The Jews understood fully what Jesus was saying because they picked up stones to kill him for "blasphemy" - claiming to be God. 2 Jesus has always existed.
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