Bible Discussion Thread

Please can someone explain these scriptures to me because I feel like I can't moved forward on my Christian walk. I have not been baptised yet, So I don't even know if I'm saved yet or if I have lost my salvation

How I read it, It (is) possible for us to lose our salvation, Although everyone at my church (including the pastors) believe "Once saved.. Always saved.. Although I can't find any scriptures in the King James Bible to prove their doctrine and this is causing me a lot of distress and anxiety.

Please can someone show me the scriptures in the King James Bible where it says we (can't) lose our salvation because I can't find any scriptures to verify this. Thank you.

Hebrews Chapter 6.4-6

Matthew Chapter 7.21-23



Ezekiel 18.24-26

John 10.28-29

2 Peter 2.20-22

Hebrews 10.26-28

1 John 2.3-4

2 Timothy 2.11-12

Has anyone explained these to you yet?

Hi Rich,

My pastor said that the most important thing to bear in mind is that scripture interprets scripture and that the context is important too. He said that the scripture's that I showed him are often misunderstood, and don't mean what I think they mean. He said that salvation cannot be lost, just like God's promises cannot be broken. I think the fact that I have not been baptised yet and that I am the only Christian in my family is also adding to my uncertainty. It says in

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

I think the fact that nobody from my church believes that that the spiritual gifts like speaking in tongues are for all Christians, and that those gifts were only for Jesus disciples. The church that I went to previously had a number of people that speak in tongues, so because I disagree with that, I just feel unsure if he is wrong about these scriptures too.

Also, I am sure that I have read that we can no longer sin once we have been saved, yet I have used curse words a few times and taken the name of the Lord are God in vain since becoming a Christian mostly in my head, but also out loud on a few occasions.

It appears you are being tossed to a fro by the doctrines of men (twisting Scripture), rather the doctrine of Christ. We would have to spend hours discussing and reading the Scriptures to straighten out some of what is concerning you. Not enough space. First, if you can speak out-loud that Jesus Christ is Lord! And, Jesus Christ is your Saviour! And, that you have Faith and Belief in Him. In His Death and Resurrection - then you are saved. I am paraphrasing Romans Chapter 10:9. Your walk is now with Him, and your perfection is in Him. You (and all the rest of use) have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. And, we will continue that battle for our entire earthly existence. It is Him who saves, and not a single good thing you do - saves you, as He has completed and finished it all. For His good pleasure. Take a deep breath and pray to God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, to guide you through these times in the wilderness. You are not lost, you are Saved, and just searching for a deeper truth in Him. Begin to read all of Paul's writings. Remember to read whom these letters are writing to: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, Philemon, Titus, 1 and 2 Timothy. As with all the Scripture it is written FOR us, but not all is written TO us. Some writings are specifically to Moses, the Israelites, and others in the Scripture. We can certainly learn from them about God, who He is, and how He works, but they are not TO us, they are FOR our edification. It is no different as an example. You have some nice folks, Rich and Georgia (May God Bless You Both), who replied to your post. Now, my post is written FOR everyone to read (and, Rich and Georgia might read this post and it is edifying to them), but it was written specifically to My Sister in Christ - Claire. Not enough space May God Love You and Bless You and Strengthen You throughout all of your days. Rightly divide the Word of Truth.

Hi Steve,

Firstly, Sorry for the late reply, I didn't see your message in my emails for some reason. Just seen it now in the thread.

Thank you for your words of encouragement and all your blessings (From God). I will study the specific scriptures you suggested and also pray for God's guidance too.

God bless you and your family.

Kind Regards

Claire

Claire, the Spirit grace you with his understanding, two verses you quoted go along way in understanding baptism. Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. If you are baptized into natural water you put on natural water. If you are baptized into living water, (which is Christ) you have put on life (which is Christ). I peter 1:23 Being born again not of corruptible (flesh) seed, but of incorruptible (Spirit) seed, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth (in you) for ever. When you spend you time in the written word the written word becomes the truth of life (Spirit). You are baptized into the Word, which is Christ.

Claire You are putting to many things on what you must do, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved Acts 16 vs 31. Believe and be saved, seek first his kingdom and all these things will be given to you. Matt 6 vs 33 seek him first then all other things will be given to you, your going through a lot right now it seems, come to me all who labor are heavy laden and I will give you rest Matt 11 vs 28 -30. Seek him first rest in him. We are and will continue to pray for you Clarie

Respectfully

Rich and Georgia

Hi Richard & Georgia,

Thank you for all your words of encouragement and your prayers. I will study the scriptures that you suggested and pray for guidance.

God bless you and family.

Kind Regards

Claire