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  • Nadine Brasier on Daniel 9
    Hasn't Daniel 9:26 and 27 already happened?
  • Drew - in Reply on Daniel 9
    Hi Nadine,

    I know that the common belief is that Daniel 9:27 warns of a coming anti-christ. I hope you will consider that the one confirming the "covenant" with many is Christ and not anti-christ.

    This chapter, Daniel 9, is a prayer for the forgiveness of Israel and that prayer is answered when Gabriel is sent to Daniel with a semi detailed timeline of the arrival of the Lord our Savior. Especially Note that Daniel 9:4 states "... O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the COVENANT and mercy to them that love him...". Isn't this he covenant being spoken of in verse 27?

    Daniel 9:25 essentially says that Messiah will appear upon the end of the first 69 weeks. This would coincide with about the time of the beginning of the ministry of Christ.

    Daniel 9:26 says that 'after' 69 weeks Messiah will be cut off. Many people believe that Christ's ministry lasted about 3 1/2 years after which He was crucified.

    Also notice the similarity between Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many..." and Mat 26:28 and Mar 14:24 where Christ's Words are very similar while He is having the last supper with His disciples. The word "testament" in these verses can also be translated "covenant".

    Also, for scholars to suggest that satan confirms covenants is little ridiculous and I don't think that the Bible would support that notion.

    I suspect that much of the visions which were given to Daniel are still sealed and will shortly begin to be revealed. I wouldn't put much stock in a "broken seven year covenant between satan and God's 'chosen people'". A belief that is based on an odd reading of Daniel 9:27.
  • Chris - in Reply on Daniel 9
    Yes, Daniel 9:26 was accomplished at the coming of the Messiah and then in AD 70, Emperor Titus marched into Jerusalem & destroyed it. Verse 27 is also attributed to this invasion though some see it as a picture of the future Anti-Christ who comes to 'bring peace' in the middle east conflicts, yet mid-week through his reign breaks any covenant he makes with Israel, & indeed goes against her. From hereon, Israel's sorrows multiply.
  • Josie - in Reply on Daniel 9
    Is the church still here or has it been raptured? Does the church go through any of 7 year tribulation or just the people who refuse didn't get saved before the return of Christ? What about the 144,000 that are the twelve tribes of Israel that are left to be here during the tribulation, are they left here to win souls?

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