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  • Sandra Torres on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    Why would The Two Witnesses not be raptured when The Body of Christ is raptured? If a rapture happens PreTribulation then it has to be when The Two Witnesses get raptured. If Post Tribulation then it that rapture would br solely described of Matthew 24:40. Which means that only The Two Witnesses get raptured PreTribulation. Which means that those alive in Christ after The Two Witnesses get raptured up would have to live through the Anti-Christ Tribulation until Jesus Christ's Second Coming.
  • What are we gonna do about Jesus - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    What secular book did you read, to get this explanation of when everybody, dead then alive; are caught up into the clouds to Jesus Christ?

    The 2 people you speak of were translated to heaven without tasting death. When they return, to Jerusalem, they are going to preach the Gospel to the Jews, and to the entire planet, by satellite (Internet), and antenna (to the poor). Everybody on earth will see it. Antichrist will order them killed; which will be witnessed by everyone on earth.

    The Christians will already have been caught up.

    WE ARE ALL to be LOOKING for JESUS'S return. Listening for the shout and the trump of God. Only the Father knows when that moment will be. Christians must be actively looking and listening for that; every moment of every day or night.

    This is all written down in the Bible. You have no need that any man teach you. We all have the ability to accept what is already written. Jesus would say to us: IT IS WRITTEN!!

    Other than the well known "caught up" scriptures, many many more OT prophesies are in the Bible like gems, that, light up those verses.

    This is no time to be fascinated by the secular explanation of these things. Books make money. They become idols, if it distracts you from the Truth of the pages in THE BIBLE. Jesus is not going to listen to excuses, like: but, but, I have this (secular) book that says, thus and so!!

    Just the words of, "but, but, but" are the language of goats. Who butt their heads against the revealed and known Truth of Gods Word. You must make a choice now: to FOLLOW JESUS.....or to follow the writer of a secular book.

    Everyone in this website has a responsibility to lead these people to the truth as a disciple of Jesus did (Peter, John, Paul, and the others). Not spilling out miles and miles of scriptures; but actually witnessing, preaching, one on one. Tell your TESTIMONY. Like Jesus, be real; be Jesus in the flesh.

    Mishael
  • Mishael - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    I love you Frank. I'm sorry if I came across unhumble. Maybe I need to take a closet break and stay in there. I appreciate your concern. Thank you.
  • Frank Garcia - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    Remember we belong to Jesus because we love like him also remember if we teach God's word even if were right and don't show love you know what the answer is I hope God bless.
  • Sandra Torres - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    Thank You!

    I so appreciate Your feedback.

    I have a question though. Why would Elijah abd Elisa be left behind?
  • Richard - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    Brother Misael,

    I'll keep this one short and sweet as the last post I made didn't seem to make it up. I very much enjoy reading your writings and this is to you. Last year, after being led to and accepting Christ, I heard very loud trumpet blasts one night. It was an intimate experience when the Lord came to me. I have typed a detailed Testimony of what happened to me as it was all centered around Jesus Christ and our Father. I allowed this site to publish what I wrote in their book as they ask after submitting your Testimony. I don't know how long after submitting your Testimony when it will come up in that section. You're the one who informed me that there was a section for Testimonies.

    I just felt to write this to you brother. God Bless.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    I'm working on that now. I will let you know when it's being posted.

    In the past 12years or so; more movies, Youtube, tv, books and near death testimonies are being revealed. It's a blessing to me. Not a private club. It is Jesus showing us that He is real; He is most certainly alive! He is who He says He is.

    We are to tell our testimonies as The Holy Spirit moves us to.

    I told my testimony one night at small groups. No one spoke, except for one young woman. She told hers, looking into my eyes. How she had been born into a family that believed in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. She had been in church all of her life. How it was not supernatural or amazing, but just a normal life long walk with God.

    I wept all the way home! Her testimony impressed ME so powerfully! That's the way it's supposed to happen. You raise your children like her parents did.

    A lady preacher once said to me, very earnestly: Jesus brings us to Himself, the EASIEST way we will come to Him.

    That some of us get there looking like a wreck...but Praise God we made it!!! I've never forgotten her words.

    I am Psalms 68:6
  • Vincent - In Reply on Matthew 24:9 - 3 years ago
    Good question.

    Yes there is a pre-tribulation rapture! Hope to see you there!

    The two witnesses (Enoch and Elihah I believe) were men in the Old Testament who never dies and were raptured. In the Tribulation, they are sent to preach to those people during the Tribulation (Jews). And yes, there is also a post tribulation rapture of Tribulation saints i.e. those who obtained salvation, including the two witnesses I believe. HOWEVER, these people are not "alive in Christ" perse. There are no "Christians" / Body of Christ in the Tribulation because they have been raptured at this point. Salvation is not through Christ's blood atonement in the Tribulation, believe it or not, salvation reverts back to the Mosaic Law (Matthew ch 5-7,24) There will also be an angel proclaiming an "everlasting gospel" ( Revelation 14:6).

    Good question. I hope this helped.



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