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  • Janice Lane on 1 John 5
    1 John 5:6 what is meant by Jesus being born of water and blood? I recently heard a teacher use this verse to explain how heavenly bodies do not have blood. And that this is proof that Adam had water as his circulatory system before the fall and after he had blood which made him mortal. Is there any other verses that reference this topic?
  • Preacher man - in Reply on 1 John 5:4
    Jesus explains this passage in John chapter 3 to Nicodemus. water is natural birth, showing Jesus was all man. Blood showing his bloodline, God, proving his deity. Jesus says, "I must be about my fathers business." talking about God.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on 1 John 5
    being born of water and blood? He was born same as us. Woman's water burst just before birth. It does not mean babtize.
  • Robyn Hocking - in Reply on 1 John 5
    Being born of Water and blood can be understood in a number of ways:

    I would suggest That in this case, it refers to the natural birth of Christ Jesus whereby the normal birth involves the breaking of the woman's waters, in a sense being baptised into the realm of Humanity . And God declared many times that Blood is the Life Thereof. (Heavenly Beings need no blood as they don't have mortal bodies) By these means we have assurance He is truly of the flesh , thereby he could rightly be judged a truly righteous sacrifice for humanity as he being made flesh , remained sinless . I hope this Helps your understanding. God is Beautiful and fulfils every righteousness.

    Bless you, and watch for our redemption is at the door.
  • Medical Explanation of Jesus39s Death - in Reply on 1 John 5
    John 19:31-34

    The bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??

    Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

    The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.

    In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.

    This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.

    Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.


 

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