The Bible is a spiritual Book. It is spiritually discerned. It's like in John 3 with Nicodemus. Jesus told him he needed to be born again. Nicodemus believed.
In John 16, Nicodemus asked Jesus the same question.
An authentic born again experience, means receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
John 16 ,teaches what all that entails: what the Holy Spirits Ministry is, towards New Believers. He protects the new birth and teaches it about Jesus. You can go as deeply, as you desire the sincere milk of Gods Word (the Holy Bible). We're encouraged to desire the Meat of scripture.
A lot of Christians just want the basic fire insurance. Enough to keep them out of hell.
A true believer wants the Whole Life of Jesus insurance policy with all the bells and whistles. They jump in feet first, and get Jesus all over them: and want more and more. They follow Jesus and read His Word every day of their lives. They tell others about Jesus! They are excited.
They're "all in". None of that one foot in the worldly world, and the other foot on Jesus.
There was a great song called, Love God, Hate Sin. If we don't sink our little baby Christian roots deep into Jesus, first big wind of persecution will blow you away.
Go look at That Godhead post I just posted. Why wouldn't you want to worship, adore and serve, those three persons who created all we see and know about? Romans 1
If you don't read your Bible with the Holy Spirit at your elbow... the Bible is just a book that doesn't speak back to you.
Thanks for those inspiring words friend. However, I'm looking to find the answer to why the story of Noah, Creation and Jesus birth have extremely close parallels of others, Egyptian,Sumerian, Gilgamesh earlier tales found on ancient tablets/ Rosetta stone, etc.
I'm looking to debunk these tales specifically, and not to sound condescending but this is highly important that I get the facts over my now faith... can you help me here?
Hi Rob, thanks for your enquiry about how some biblical accounts had found parallels in other ancient cultures/religions. Mishael gives me more credit than I deserve & though humbled by his high regard of my 'knowledge', in reality my abilities are quite minuscule in comparison to the many learned folk out there & who have published well researched material.
With that in mind, I am totally ignorant of secular/pagan ancient writings or the Rosetta stone. Apart from what one gleans from the Web, I'm unable to add further information to that. However, with what I have read, I wouldn't be overly surprised that there may be some similarities between biblical & other writings. Yet if one would examine the others' accounts, one would find that the similarities are actually not so similar anyway. As well, in some cases, as in some biblical accounts (e.g. the Flood), these could have been transmitted from the survivors of the flood to others & over generations, as the tribes on the Earth multiplied & became more diverse in culture & religion, the account could have also adopted various forms & imagery giving it some authenticity, yet found altered in content because of such transmission.
So one could assume the same with Creation, the Virgin birth, a God meting out judgement, etc: similarities, but sufficiently dissimilar to warrant a more careful examination, to either prove a connection or not. Why do such parallels occur? I suppose when we deal with the unknown, the spiritual, the belief in a superior being, there must also be some ideas that intersect or coincide with each other. These then appear to us laymen, as perplexing & worthy of further thought or examination. And yet, if we then read the Bible with that thought in mind, we will miss the beautiful consistent thread that runs right through Scripture, showing us the truth & faithfulness of God's Word to us. Other religions showing these 'similarities' would eventually fail in this respect or become divergent.
I'm going to refer you to CHRIS in the Bible comment room. He's much more educated in Bibles, religions and History.
'Rosetta Stone' is not in the Bible. Moses spoke the language of the Egyptians, knew their culture; but he did not speak of the Rosetta Stone you asked about. After a quick read through Google, I see that the Stone resides in Britain. It exists. I copied this:
The world's 1,500-year loss of understanding of Egyptian hieroglyphs is a reminder of the impermanence of even the most monumental empires and their legacies. Where once hieroglyphs boldly adorned a thousand walls, the last known example was finally incised on the island of Philae in AD 394. Although Egyptian continued to be spoken, Egypt's new Christian authorities soon outlawed hieroglyphs as pagan, and replaced them with the Greek Coptic alphabet. Several centuries later, when Egypt fell to Islam, the chain was finally broken as Coptic gave way to Arabic. The process of forgetting was complete.
In the Book of Daniel, the fall of many kingdoms are recorded. In minor prophets books too. People are still trying to unearth things in Egypt to this day.
If kingdoms fall, you can be assured that God allowed it. The only Kingdom that his eye is upon, is the Kingdom of his son, Jesus Christ. In the Bible, if you read scripture from a Bible with center of page reference columns, you might find more information surrounding Noah and others.
It's not really going to help with languages.
Follow the scriptures with little alphabet letters in them.
The Bible says that much study brings weariness of mind. Interestingly enough, so does much exercise. Study of the Bible makes us wise.
Come back and ask Chris if he has studied the Rosetta Stone. I hope you find what you are seeking. I hope that in your pursuit, that you stumble over the Rock, which is Jesus Christ. The Stone the builders rejected.
And so must you.
An authentic born again experience, means receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
John 16 ,teaches what all that entails: what the Holy Spirits Ministry is, towards New Believers. He protects the new birth and teaches it about Jesus. You can go as deeply, as you desire the sincere milk of Gods Word (the Holy Bible). We're encouraged to desire the Meat of scripture.
A lot of Christians just want the basic fire insurance. Enough to keep them out of hell.
A true believer wants the Whole Life of Jesus insurance policy with all the bells and whistles. They jump in feet first, and get Jesus all over them: and want more and more. They follow Jesus and read His Word every day of their lives. They tell others about Jesus! They are excited.
They're "all in". None of that one foot in the worldly world, and the other foot on Jesus.
There was a great song called, Love God, Hate Sin. If we don't sink our little baby Christian roots deep into Jesus, first big wind of persecution will blow you away.
Go look at That Godhead post I just posted. Why wouldn't you want to worship, adore and serve, those three persons who created all we see and know about? Romans 1
If you don't read your Bible with the Holy Spirit at your elbow... the Bible is just a book that doesn't speak back to you.
So, how deep do you want to go?
Mishael
I'm looking to debunk these tales specifically, and not to sound condescending but this is highly important that I get the facts over my now faith... can you help me here?
With that in mind, I am totally ignorant of secular/pagan ancient writings or the Rosetta stone. Apart from what one gleans from the Web, I'm unable to add further information to that. However, with what I have read, I wouldn't be overly surprised that there may be some similarities between biblical & other writings. Yet if one would examine the others' accounts, one would find that the similarities are actually not so similar anyway. As well, in some cases, as in some biblical accounts (e.g. the Flood), these could have been transmitted from the survivors of the flood to others & over generations, as the tribes on the Earth multiplied & became more diverse in culture & religion, the account could have also adopted various forms & imagery giving it some authenticity, yet found altered in content because of such transmission.
So one could assume the same with Creation, the Virgin birth, a God meting out judgement, etc: similarities, but sufficiently dissimilar to warrant a more careful examination, to either prove a connection or not. Why do such parallels occur? I suppose when we deal with the unknown, the spiritual, the belief in a superior being, there must also be some ideas that intersect or coincide with each other. These then appear to us laymen, as perplexing & worthy of further thought or examination. And yet, if we then read the Bible with that thought in mind, we will miss the beautiful consistent thread that runs right through Scripture, showing us the truth & faithfulness of God's Word to us. Other religions showing these 'similarities' would eventually fail in this respect or become divergent.
'Rosetta Stone' is not in the Bible. Moses spoke the language of the Egyptians, knew their culture; but he did not speak of the Rosetta Stone you asked about. After a quick read through Google, I see that the Stone resides in Britain. It exists. I copied this:
The world's 1,500-year loss of understanding of Egyptian hieroglyphs is a reminder of the impermanence of even the most monumental empires and their legacies. Where once hieroglyphs boldly adorned a thousand walls, the last known example was finally incised on the island of Philae in AD 394. Although Egyptian continued to be spoken, Egypt's new Christian authorities soon outlawed hieroglyphs as pagan, and replaced them with the Greek Coptic alphabet. Several centuries later, when Egypt fell to Islam, the chain was finally broken as Coptic gave way to Arabic. The process of forgetting was complete.
In the Book of Daniel, the fall of many kingdoms are recorded. In minor prophets books too. People are still trying to unearth things in Egypt to this day.
If kingdoms fall, you can be assured that God allowed it. The only Kingdom that his eye is upon, is the Kingdom of his son, Jesus Christ. In the Bible, if you read scripture from a Bible with center of page reference columns, you might find more information surrounding Noah and others.
It's not really going to help with languages.
Follow the scriptures with little alphabet letters in them.
The Bible says that much study brings weariness of mind. Interestingly enough, so does much exercise. Study of the Bible makes us wise.
Come back and ask Chris if he has studied the Rosetta Stone. I hope you find what you are seeking. I hope that in your pursuit, that you stumble over the Rock, which is Jesus Christ. The Stone the builders rejected.
May God reveal his truth to you.
Mishael
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