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  • Bob Grove on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Jesus said he would raise up all that believe in him on the last day x times in this chapter . and in John 11 he also said he is the resurrection.

    So how is it possible for a pretrib rapture ? Are you going to be resurrected twice ?

    Jesus is coming 3 times ?
  • Donna Williams - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    The word rapture is not found in the Word of God, but 1Thessalonians 4:17 reveals that the saints who are alive and remain at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ shall be caught up together with them (those who have fallen asleep in Christ), in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The words being "caught up" is the Resurrection of the Saints. I do not believe that we should form an opinion of whether or not He is coming pre, mid, or post tribulation. The truth of the matter is Jesus already told us we don't know the day or the hour when the Son of Man is coming, so how is it that we are having disputes over when He's coming. Jesus said, "Watch, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour that ye think not." Matthew 24:44 & Luke 12:46

    What is Jesus saying, He is saying that we must be ready at all times. For He is coming as a thief in the night!
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Only the father knows the actual day . But all the signs Jesus plainly told us , like for example the moon goes red the sun goes dark , armies of the world surround Jerusalem.

    And the Antichrist must appear after the following away .

    Yes be ready to go through much , The Lord will be our way through it all . Amen !
  • J. Reid - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Good day:

    My question concerns the meaning and/or use of the word "rapture." Through my recent study of God's Word, my understanding of the word, rapture is to depart as departure, leave, exit, caught up, etc.



    Many fellow believers believe in pre, mid, or post Tribulation. Others do not believe in a Rapture. This has caused much confusion on my part.

    My question has 2 parts: What is the True Meaning of Rapture and When does the Rapture Occur? [Scripture supported answers]

    Thank you, Kindly

    God bless

    J. Reid from Canada
  • Stanjett - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Some have said that the word rapture is not in the bible. Does it matter? Everyone knows what it means. Caught up to be with the Lord in the sky.
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Read revelation 20 v 4 ,5 , 6

    This is the First Resurrection . And all that believe in Jesus . John chapter 6 v 39 , 40

    Jesus said He is the resurrection in John 11 v 24 , 25, 26

    What people often refer to the rapture is actually the first Resurrection. There are not two Resurrections for Gods saints .

    That makes no sense at all .

    There are many more scriptures , but these should be enough . This is Jesus own words and teaching , are mans more correct ? That's why I find it easier to believe Jesus than any man .

    2 Timothy 3 v15,16,17 are essential to practice or deception is probable these days . Since the 1800s we have been bombarded with heresy and cults . Look at all the date setters proven wrong . The list is long .
  • Donna Williams - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Bob:

    Yes I do agree, and I am grateful that Jesus has already forewarned us. We should be paying attention to the signs.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    J. Reid from Canada :),

    T. Levis from USA

    This is a hugely debated issue within churches 4 sure.

    John 13:34-35

    Romans 16:17-18

    2 Timothy 2:14-15

    If there isn't a rapture could it be the cause of a great falling away?

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

    Revelation 6:8-11

    GOD be with us all who believe, love & trust HIM, to strengthen, hold, protect & keep us faithful

    Jude 1:24-25

    John 10:28-29

    Genesis 5:21-24

    2 Kings 2:11

    Mark 16:19

    Acts 1:6-9

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

    Mathew 24:37-46

    I hope these are helpful
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Yes we are seeing the falling away as it seems to be getting much worse , society is where it is noticed most , churches have been in delusion for many years . There are some good people caught up in them , if they turn to the scriptures they will notice things are not right and leave them .

    We are to gather with those that call on the Lord with a pure heart , that's important. If they are believing false doctrines or practicing sin they will have an effect on you .

    Separation can be lonely at times as far as people go . But the Grace of God is so much better .
  • Bob Grove - In Reply on John 6 - 3 years ago
    Glad to hear ! Yes The Church will prevail by Jesus . It's not too late for others to repent and get right with God , as in the seven Churches . Jesus knows all and will not except a Luke warm church .



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