Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Mark Padmore on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    On Genesis 2:25 "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed." Why did they have to be naked, didn't God have plan for multiplication of the human race before the disobedience and thereafter? Were mankind to be naked forever had they not disobeyed?
  • D.J. - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Mark Padmore,

    Adam and Eve did not need any type of covering because they had not sinned yet.

    As angels of light, they were pure.

    They were creations of God (i.e. no belly button / no parent)

    The covering they may have put on was the 7 layers of membrane we call skin.

    After they sinned, the adjustment of God's plan was made.

    God is prepared for everything.
  • Janice Lane - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Adam and Eve were not angels of light. They were human.
  • D.J. - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Janice Lane,

    I never said Adam and Eve were angels.

    I said that Adam and Eve were "AS" angels of light; because they had not sinned yet.

    I agree. Adam and Eve were humans.

    The notion that Adam and Eve may have put on actual skin is an alternate idea to the coat of animal skin that I find to be possible. I am not saying that I know this to be fact.

    I was not there. I do not know for sure. Do you?

    From your responses, I will ask you the following:

    Where does the Bible state that "this is the first blood sacrifice for the remission of sins"?

    Where does the Bible state that the skin used to cover Adam and Eve came from an animal at all?

    Where does the Bible state that a "ram" was the animal skin used for the covering?

    Are you making assumptions?
  • Janice L Lane - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    I accept that you did not say they were Angels of lights. But a lot of times when (as) is used in this manner it seems to, imply that a fact is being stated. Example: As the owner of the house, he/she may pick the style of decoration. But if you want to show simular traits you would use the word (like). Example: Like the owner of the house, the tenant may pick the style of decoration. This is why I thought you were stating a fact instead of making a comparison.

    As far as the animal skins, I have heard that from preachers over the years. And for my education, where did you read in the Bible that Adam and Eve were as/like angels of light with God putting on them human skin after the fall?
  • D.J. - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Janice Lane,

    Angels are described in Scripture as having light associated with their appearance or presence; Acts 12:7, 2 Corinthians 11:14, Revelations 18:1.

    Again, I stated that Adam and Eve were AS angels of light; because they had not at that point in time sinned yet. They were as pure as a human could be. I never said I read that in Scripture.

    I stated that the covering that God put on them MAY have been actual skin. I never said I read that in Scripture either.
  • Yvonne pieprzyk - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    I need a house ,you see I had a home but I had to foreclose on it ,now I'm on disability and my husband had a stroke so we need a home with separate shower walk in for him ,how can we get enough money to buy a home. I've been praying to the Lord but he's been silent .I told him my sins and I'm in great need. I don't know where I will get the money for a house,,will the Lord let me win the lottery? I have such bad luck lately ,I pray daily ,I would like to take my husband to the lordes rivet in Italy they say miracles are performed so he can get better. Please help
  • Yvonne pieprzyk - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    I need a house ,you see I had a home but I had to foreclose on it ,now I'm on disability and my husband had a stroke so we need a home with separate shower walk in for him ,how can we get enough money to buy a home. I've been praying to the Lord but he's been silent .I told him my sins and I'm in great need
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Contact the housing authority in the county you live in. The website may give you some ideas of which office to speak to.

    See if you can find someone to. Ourselves you considering age, disability and employment if you are still working.

    Some cities have hotlines like: 311, 211

    Main thing is to calm yourself so you think about problems logically and with purpose.

    There may be a church near you who will have someone who can counsel with you.

    Repair your relationship with the Lord (use 1 John 1:9 as often as something comes to mind.) And ask him to give you ideas for your situation. Be still and listen for His Voice. "My Sheep hear My Voice"

    Satans voice accuses, confuses and breeds fear. Learn how to talk back: "I rebuke you, Satan, in the Blessed Name of Jesus!" Get thee behind me, satan! Resist the Devil and he must FLEE!! Worship the Lord and Him only!

    Keep it up and get your center back. Tell yourself, Fear Not. Make a plan and then follow it.

    Call 1-800-700-7000 and let the ladies pray with you. Every day if you need to.
  • ElectricWarrior - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    I don't think there is a god to answer you're prayers, either that or he/she/it does not care or has no power, or the will to help people out. This probably is not helpful to you but it kind of underlines the need to build a better, fairer society for us all rather than imagine that it will all be better if we just trust in a deity which has never ever manifested itself in the natural world and has never been shown to answer prayers.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Your answer typifies one that doesn't believe in the existence of God, nor of His Love in sending His Son as payment for the sins of those who repent & put their faith in Him. This would all be gobbledegook to you. So, it would be meaningless to you when a person who has been arrested in his spirit by the Spirit of God, made conscious of his sins & of being hell bound & through repentance has received a new life from God, speaks of such things as factual & not fanciful. The Bible records, as do Christians from past generations & present, that God is real & true & that He does intervene in their lives in very clear unmistakable ways. We have proven God's interest & activity in our lives, whether as a result of prayer or just in being His children walking on His Earth, to our complete satisfaction. I can't even begin to relate accounts of Divine intervention & help, when ordinarily things would have gone pear shaped.

    Your opinions are appreciated, but in truth, you're expressing them in a medium that is full of current testimonies of God's Love & Faithfulness. But if & when the time comes, as appointed by God, for His revelation to come to you, you can be certain that that experience will be so overwhelming that all your beliefs & ideas will be cast out, as you see the One Who came to give His Life in your stead. But this can't come from your reasoning but from conviction in your spirit. We pray that you will be led aright in your earthly sojourn & that this God Whom you reject now will manifest Himself to you in a very special & specific way.
  • Richard - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Hello sir. So the beginning of your statement has "I think" in it. So I would say that's nice instead of saying "I know" like a lot of other people do. One other thing at the end of your sentence that "God has never been shown to answer prayers". This is not true. I am just one living proof that God does answer prayers and can work miracles. And there is much more living proof in this world. God Bless you.
  • Mark Padmore - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    @D.J, the question is: Did God have plan for multiplication of the human race before they disobeyed? Was it after that they sinned (disobeyed), that the plan was revealed and the "7 layers of membrane" removed to form the reproductive organs?
  • Janice Lane - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Read Gen 1:28. God made male and female and told them to be fruitful and multiple.
  • Membranes - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    The word Membrane, is not in the Bible. Google has no membrane teaching from the Bible either.

    If we cannot back something up in the scripture, it is a teaching you need to let go. Don't teach that to others.

    The female body was created with a hymen. To prove virginity; and to prevent disease.
  • D.J. - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    To Membranes,

    You are correct. Membrane is not a word found in the Bible.

    But nobody said it was in the Bible, and who cares what google says.

    Not sure where you are going with the "female" statement.
  • D.J. - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Mark Padmore

    If Adam had not sinned, and was able to resist Satan for the allotted time period (possibly 1000 years) then there would have been no need for God to promise the coming of His Son in Genesis 3:15.

    After they disobeyed, the skin was added ( Genesis 3:21).

    Reproduction was a gift given to all of mankind, including Adam and Eve, on the 6th day, before they disobeyed ( Genesis 1:28, 2:25).
  • Mark Padmore - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    @D.J, it's like you are not the kind of person to provide answer to my questions. You make reference of Gen. 3:21 which only tells us about the Lord God making "coats of skin (animals wool/skin) for their clothing and not literal flesh or augmentation of the already existing physical human body. I think I've got the understanding of this verse. It's simply that MAN DID NOT KNOW SHAME. There was no one that they could have been shied in front of. It was after the eating of the Tree of Good and Evil that their eyes were exposed to "shame", in the presence of the subtle serpent (the devil). Research shows that there are people of this nature that still exist in some parts of the world who live in the wild.
  • D.J. - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    Mark Padmore,

    How do you know the coats of skin was animal skin?
  • Janice Lane - In Reply on Genesis 2:9 - 3 years ago
    The skin that was added to cover their nakedness was animal skin. This was the first blood sacrifice for the remission of sin. I believe it was a ram. that was slain.



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