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  • Howard on Romans 11:7 - 3 years ago
    So from what I read the elect are people who are saved not Israel many pastors say the elect is Israel but Israel don't except Christ and are blind therefor they are not the elect of God the saved are. Would you agree with this statement.
  • The Elect of God and The Times of the Gentiles - In Reply on Romans 11:7 - 3 years ago
    Galatians 3:14

    That the blessing of Abraham MIGHT COME ON THE GENTILES through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

    Luke 21:24

    24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the (presently the elect) GENTILES BE FULFILLED.

    25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

    26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

    27And then shall they see the SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory.

    28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

    Comment by Mishael:

    The Gentiles were grafted in, to become the Elect. The Jews were grafted OUT. Google "the Graft" scriptures.

    The Jews are Spiritually blinded and deafened so they may not see or hear the Gospel of their Messiah Jesus Christ. They're certainly not going to believe God has divorced them.

    WHEN the "catching away" of the Church occurs. Blind eyes and deaf Ears are going to be OPENED suddenly. The Jews will suddenly BE THE ELECT once again. They will know only the Messiah can do what has been done. They will have to cling to Jesus during the 2nd half of Redemption: Rapture to staging of Armageddon.

    You must understand that even then; even after all the Miracles of Jesus preserving His Elect: some Jews will not relinquish their "control" over the power they have coveted for thousands of years.

    Fix your eyes on Jesus on walk right into His arms. This is your Beloved; your Husband: who has fully forgiven you and grafted you into the Vine once more, eternally. The Lord of Glory. Come back now.

    Mishael
  • Carleton - In Reply on Romans 11:7 - 3 years ago
    I can say with assurance that I was adopted into the elect (Israel) by being born again and my willingness to be Baptized as a visible sign into His church. Like a marriage, as long as I am found faithful.

    This also leads me to the thought that the harvest field is ripe and perhaps, some areas more ripe than others.

    Carleton



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