When Jesus called His Father "God" He was referring to Psalms 22, which He was teaching to the people present there. He was not complaining.
Jesus was NEVER forsaken by God.
What do we do with all Scripture that speaks of BOTH the Father and the Son? Matthew 11:27, 16:27, Mark 8:38, 13:32, Luke 1:32, John 3:35, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 1:5, 1 John 4:14, etc. etc. etc.)
Scripture does not say "In the name of the Father, the Father, and the Holy Ghost." Matthew 28:19
Greg, the mystery of God can seem to be so complex if it was never taught you. First read Isaiah 9:6 for the prophecy then read 1Timothy 3:16. Paul or Saul at the time, was crucifying Christians because he thought their teaching and worshiping of Jesus as God was heresy. Saul KNEW the scriptures and that there was only one God so he was zealous in trying to (what he thought) wipe out this Jesus movement. When God struck Saul down on the Damascus road and blinded him and Saul cried out to the Lord/God asking Him who He was, God told him He was Jesus. Jesus is the name above every name,Acts4:12. When Jesus was crucified He took on all the sins of the world and God's spirit had to leave his body hence Jesus crying, Father, why hast thou forsaken me? I hope I helped you a little bit. This is why we need to be filled with the HOLY GHOST so we can read and understand with the spirit. What must we do to be saved? Acts 2:38, repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sin and thou shalt be filled with the HOLY Ghost.
Write these scriptures in the back of your Bible. This comes up frequently.
The GODHEAD:
Father, Son, Holy Spirit
Acts 17:27-30
John 10:30
4 Events when the Godhead spoke to each other concerning a matter:
The "LET US" scriptures"
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 3:22
Genesis 11:7
1 John 5:7
If your Bible has center of each page, columns; read the scriptures it lists for those verses. It widens the information, or sometimes mentions a prophesy. You'll discover many gems of wisdom that way.
Hello, does this comment suggest that Jesus is the body? You can say metaphorically he is the body of the church (technically the head), but literally and physically he was a body on earth, but not currently. And if the spirit is the Holy Spirit, then God the father is a 'soul'? I'm just wanting to clarify if that's what you meant?
The TRANSFIGURATION OF JESUS - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
Matthew 17 < link
1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was TRANSFIGURED before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the VISION to no man, until the SON OF MAN be risen again from the dead.
Jesus was the Son of God, from Genesis until His birth. He SET ASIDE His powers as the Son of God to become The Son of Man.
In His Ministry, HE said, I do what I see my Father doing. (Look it up) I believe that for 3 years, God gave power to Jesus To perform miracles. The LET US was still communicating together those 3 years.
It's not trinity or triune: it is The Godhead.
(I posted comment a few hours ago in the Discussion room, again about the Godhead scriptures.
See, I don't care about Greek, Hebrew or opinions. I care what The Holy Spirit teaches. We all should. Jesus was transfigured to show his disciples: Father speaking; the Holy Spirit revealing the Son of God in his glory.
That's enough for me. It happened; it was witnessed; it was recorded.
This business of people coming in almost every day confused by words like triune, trinity is not right. Teach: LET US.
To me, while there's some separation because of their names, it says they "are one" that means they are one and unified as a being or entity. Therefore Jesus is God too. He has the powers and checks all the other boxes of a divine being but is not God the father. I personally don't know how this verse can be interpreted any other way. In other verses it shows them unified with the Holy Spirit too so that's how people come to understand the concept of a trinity.
The word "one" is the Greek world "hen" which is neutral, and means "one in essence", not one person, which would be the Greek word "heis," which is masculine.
You have picked one Scripture out of the Bible to prop your belief up on without putting it in context, look at ( John 10:22-29).
Again, what do you do with all those Scriptures that says God and Jesus are two different entities?
I do not agree with you concerning the "mystery of godliness" as it pertains to Scripture you provided, being God Himself. I believe it concerns the Son of God being born of woman ( Isaiah 7:14). Jesus is the One spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:16 and the One promised in Genesis 3:15
I agree with you, Jesus is the way to salvation.
I, however, must disagree with you that God is Jesus and Jesus is God, and again will state that I believe Jesus never came claiming to be His Father.
Jesus came as the personification of the Words of the Father John 1:1-2); and His authority came from the Father; and He lost none of His Father's sheep ( John 17:12)
But Jesus is not the Father.
The word mystery only occurs in the New Testament.
The word "mystery" is the Greek word "musterion" and basically means a "secret."
There is more than one "mystery" spoken of in Scripture.
There is the mystery concerning the DURATION of time of the blindness of Israel ( Isaiah 6:9-10, Romans 11:25).
There is the mystery concerning the kingdom of God which was revealed in parables to the general public, but explained to the 12 Apostles; ( Matthew 13:10-11, 1 Peter 1:10-12)
There is the mystery concerning the fact that "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" ( John 11:25-26, 1 Corinthians 15:51, also look at Philippians 3:14, 1 Thessalonians 4:15, Hebrews 9:27)
There is the mystery of iniquity and lawlessness that is connected to MYSTERY BABYLON of Revelation 17:5-7, (look at Daniel 8:23, Daniel 12:4, Matthew 22:4, Acts 2:38, 2 Thessalonians 2:7)
There is the great mystery or secret concerning the Gentiles being co-heirs in the body of Christ, which was only revealed after the second rejection the King and the Kingdom by the Jews in Acts 28:17-31. This is the secret that was kept secret since the world began and what is being spoken of in Romans 16:25-26, Ephesians 3:1-12, and Colossians 1:24-27.
The Word was with God and the Word was God. John 1:1
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth. John 1:14
How is Jesus God?
God is God.
Jesus is the SON of God.
When Jesus called His Father "God" He was referring to Psalms 22, which He was teaching to the people present there. He was not complaining.
Jesus was NEVER forsaken by God.
What do we do with all Scripture that speaks of BOTH the Father and the Son? Matthew 11:27, 16:27, Mark 8:38, 13:32, Luke 1:32, John 3:35, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 1:5, 1 John 4:14, etc. etc. etc.)
Scripture does not say "In the name of the Father, the Father, and the Holy Ghost." Matthew 28:19
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
The GODHEAD:
Father, Son, Holy Spirit
Acts 17:27-30
John 10:30
4 Events when the Godhead spoke to each other concerning a matter:
The "LET US" scriptures"
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 3:22
Genesis 11:7
1 John 5:7
If your Bible has center of each page, columns; read the scriptures it lists for those verses. It widens the information, or sometimes mentions a prophesy. You'll discover many gems of wisdom that way.
Mishael
The Holy Spirit is spirit.
Jesus is the Son of God, and the son of Man.
All God and all man.
1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was TRANSFIGURED before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the VISION to no man, until the SON OF MAN be risen again from the dead.
Jesus was the Son of God, from Genesis until His birth. He SET ASIDE His powers as the Son of God to become The Son of Man.
In His Ministry, HE said, I do what I see my Father doing. (Look it up) I believe that for 3 years, God gave power to Jesus To perform miracles. The LET US was still communicating together those 3 years.
It's not trinity or triune: it is The Godhead.
(I posted comment a few hours ago in the Discussion room, again about the Godhead scriptures.
See, I don't care about Greek, Hebrew or opinions. I care what The Holy Spirit teaches. We all should. Jesus was transfigured to show his disciples: Father speaking; the Holy Spirit revealing the Son of God in his glory.
That's enough for me. It happened; it was witnessed; it was recorded.
This business of people coming in almost every day confused by words like triune, trinity is not right. Teach: LET US.
It's in the gospels.... at the end.
John 10:30
To me, while there's some separation because of their names, it says they "are one" that means they are one and unified as a being or entity. Therefore Jesus is God too. He has the powers and checks all the other boxes of a divine being but is not God the father. I personally don't know how this verse can be interpreted any other way. In other verses it shows them unified with the Holy Spirit too so that's how people come to understand the concept of a trinity.
Yes, I have read John 10:30.
The word "one" is the Greek world "hen" which is neutral, and means "one in essence", not one person, which would be the Greek word "heis," which is masculine.
You have picked one Scripture out of the Bible to prop your belief up on without putting it in context, look at ( John 10:22-29).
Again, what do you do with all those Scriptures that says God and Jesus are two different entities?
I agree with you, the mystery of God is complex.
I do not agree with you concerning the "mystery of godliness" as it pertains to Scripture you provided, being God Himself. I believe it concerns the Son of God being born of woman ( Isaiah 7:14). Jesus is the One spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:16 and the One promised in Genesis 3:15
I agree with you, Jesus is the way to salvation.
I, however, must disagree with you that God is Jesus and Jesus is God, and again will state that I believe Jesus never came claiming to be His Father.
Jesus came as the personification of the Words of the Father John 1:1-2); and His authority came from the Father; and He lost none of His Father's sheep ( John 17:12)
But Jesus is not the Father.
The word mystery only occurs in the New Testament.
The word "mystery" is the Greek word "musterion" and basically means a "secret."
There is more than one "mystery" spoken of in Scripture.
There is the mystery concerning the DURATION of time of the blindness of Israel ( Isaiah 6:9-10, Romans 11:25).
There is the mystery concerning the kingdom of God which was revealed in parables to the general public, but explained to the 12 Apostles; ( Matthew 13:10-11, 1 Peter 1:10-12)
There is the mystery concerning the fact that "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" ( John 11:25-26, 1 Corinthians 15:51, also look at Philippians 3:14, 1 Thessalonians 4:15, Hebrews 9:27)
There is the mystery of iniquity and lawlessness that is connected to MYSTERY BABYLON of Revelation 17:5-7, (look at Daniel 8:23, Daniel 12:4, Matthew 22:4, Acts 2:38, 2 Thessalonians 2:7)
There is the great mystery or secret concerning the Gentiles being co-heirs in the body of Christ, which was only revealed after the second rejection the King and the Kingdom by the Jews in Acts 28:17-31. This is the secret that was kept secret since the world began and what is being spoken of in Romans 16:25-26, Ephesians 3:1-12, and Colossians 1:24-27.
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