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  • Alan on Romans 11 - 3 years ago
    All Israel shall be saved.... that is the church not the nation of Isreal.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Romans 11 - 3 years ago
    Just curious why you believe the antichrists are Israel?

    Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

    1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask the Rabbi or them if Jesus is the Messiah.)

    1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

    Please explain how these get saved without Jesus? I am curious

    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
  • John L - In Reply on Romans 11 - 3 years ago
    If Israel is represented by all 12 Tribes, wouldn't that include everyone that believes? ( Galatians 3:29)
  • Mishael - In Reply on Romans 11 - 3 years ago
    If you are not Jewish, scripture describes everybody else as Gentile.

    A lot of exciting scriptures surrounding the Gentiles. Use the search engine here, to read those in a group.

    Click on New Testament only, to pare down the list.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Romans 11 - 3 years ago
    John l Part 2

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Romans 11 - 3 years ago
    John L - I believe that is true that all who are in Christ ARE the seed of Abraham as Paul states in Galations 3:29

    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then ARE are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

    I do not see anything about "becoming" or "spiritual seed"

    and if Christians are divorced Israel of Jeremiah 3:8 that means they shall be the object of the wrath of Satan in the Tribulation.

    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    God divorced Israel with the promise of remarriage

    Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:"

    Jesus in Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 - Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews are not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...



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