Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Melvin Carr on Revelation 1:14
    Easu is the Europeans...red, Edomites......ok
  • Cris - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Edomite with black feet as if they were burnt in a furnace how so Jesus was a black man i know its hard to digest because of the false truth that has been the portrayal since The Roman Catholic church which is the synagogue of Satan Jesus Christ is a Black Man from the tribe of Judah
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

    Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire: (Ruddy means reddish as in blush)

    Revelation 1:14 - His (Jesus) HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

    (Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. The world hates white Christians especially it seems today.

    Who printed the Bibles and built the churches? Europe and the USA or Africa and asia?
  • Mishael to Bob - in Reply on Revelation 1
    The first church is mentioned in Acts 2:47

    (2:40-47)

    "And THE LORD added to the CHURCH daily such as should be saved."

    People build big buildings with great beauty, art; sculptures, but they can be dead as a door nail without Jesus in it by the Holy Spirit.

    Get a grip. The people are out in the streets now. No apathy. Everyone's turned on to a cause. The Church needs to be out in the street too! Hand out some tracts. How do we know this isn't a move of God going on right now?! We're all banished from going to church so we're hiding out in the house.

    You just want to hash for days how much you can expound on churches of the past.

    Guess what? It was in the news how all the ancient churches have been sold to pay Taxes, so now they are reborn as event centers, restaurants with real art. Google it! Maybe we should consider what Peter said: it's all going to burn.

    Is the hourglass full or empty?
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Mishael - Paul says to the Corinthians (A city in Greece) that the church was with Moses in the wilderness.

    The church did not start in Acts, it was already there under Moses.

    1 Corinthians Chapter 10: 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all OUR FATHERS our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

    2 And were all baptized unto MOSES Moses in the cloud and in the sea; (Red Sea)

    3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; (Manna)

    4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

    5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

    So was Paul the apostle to the "Gentiles" and it seems he was not speaking to Jews? After all Paul is in Greece.

    2 easy questions for you

    1. Does God love everyone? (exclude Satan) Humans only

    2. Would the Lord deceive people?

    Scriptural proof only please. the answers might surprise you.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Why did God walk them around till all of the older generation died off ?

    He gave them everything: clothes and shoes that didn't wear out; manna from Heaven and water.

    God was good to them, yet they still whined.

    Finally, they were ready to go over into the Promised Land. Moses was not to go with them, but he did get to see it as he climbed the mountain where he died. He gave everything he had to Joshua, to lead the people over.

    Why did the older people never go inside of the tent of God's presence? Why did they stand outside and never go in?
  • Andrea Oliver - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Because they were babtized and older Satan would chastise them and they were to allow the Temple be Holy. They seen things differently. They were with the apostles. They were to listen to Moses and follo
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Mishael I forgot this companion scripture to the church with Moses

    Acts Chapter 7

    36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years.

    37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

    38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and [with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

    church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai

    39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust [him] from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Middle Eastern Jews today are medium olive skinned just like Jesus and others were 2,000 years ago. But most were probably very tan and dark, because they walked outside long distances. That opinion is based on scripture and evidence. However, I also don't care what the exact color is. It makes zero difference what his skin pigment is nor anyone else's. It's like people are trying to earn political or social points for their own team by convincing themselves someone they like is a certain skin color. I think doing so is wrong. Jesus died for everyone- he already said that in the Bible, so pigment is irrelevant and it really detracts from the message to keep talking about it.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Revelation 1
    I was going to post something like you just posted. Most likely He had olive skin since his Mother was a Jew. BUT it don't matter what color His skin was.
  • Cris - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Revelation 14 hair like wool only black people have hair of wool I know that people like to always say middle eastern because they can be more comfortable with that than saying Jesus was an israelite from the tribe of Judah a black man Color does matter to me because my people have been lied to and still being lied to about the physical appearance of the Isrealites Lord and savior he did not come to save the world only the Nation of Isreal before just reading only John 3 16 also read Mathew 15:24 you have to read the bible precept upon precept Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Isreal not the whole world every one has their own interpretation but I'm for my people 12 tribes of israel
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Cris, your statement: "Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Isreal not the whole world", indicates to us that you hold little or no regard to the rest of the New Testament. Am I right? If so, I can't offer further comment.

    But if I'm wrong & you do believe in the NT as well, then please consider these few verses (to which matter there are many more verses): of Paul, Galatians 1:15,16; Acts 9:15,16; Romans 15:15-18; etc. Why was Paul sent by Christ to minister to the Gentiles? Apparently, so that they too could hear the Gospel & be saved (1 Thes 2:8-16, especially verses 14-16), therefore fulfilling the Lord's Word that He had 'other sheep' that still had to come into His fold (John 10:14-17).

    You might be "for my people 12 tribes of israel" & that is wonderful, but since Israel was cut out from the olive tree because of their 'blindness to the Messiah' (Romans 11, especially verses 18-25), they are in desperate need for the "fullness of the Gentiles" to be accomplished before they will one day be saved. It's not possible to rule out clear & abundant Scripture showing that Christ came for all people, Jew & Gentile alike, rather we ought to be concerned for the many who are going into a Christ-less eternity having never heard the Gospel & opportunity to be saved (I speak here not of God's election but man's concern & responsibility).
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Jesus said otherwise in the Bible. Luke 19:10, Acts 17:26, John 12:46 - he came to save the lost of all people, not just who you claim are your 'own people'. Why do you care about skin color so much? Why not eye color? Why not height or weight? We're all individuals of equal value, not members of fictional political tribes. Satan is deceiving people into believing they are unequal and trying to divide everyone and some are believing the lie.

    Lamentations 4:7 - you know Jesus was from Nazareth, right? This says they're white so that counterbalances the assumption that because someone's hair is like wool it must be black. Other races can have wool-like hair too. There's plenty of hair variety within the races.
  • Mishael on Dominion Demons - in Reply on Revelation 1
    God created Adam in his image and likeness. He gave Adam DOMINION over the earth and all the creatures on it.

    He did not give Adam dominion over other humans.

    There were "inhabitants" living on earth, who were the 1/3 of created angels who revolted and followed SATAN to the earth. They had bodies at that point. However all of them DIED in the flood of Noah. They no longer had bodies. Their spirits survived to become principalities and powers; DEMONS.

    Their desire now is to find human bodies to inhabit.

    Jesus cast out devils from one possessed man, and the demons begged Jesus to let them possess some pigs. He did but the pigs ran over a cliff and Died. No bodies again.

    There are lots of people on earth that invite demons to inhabit their bodies: people in the occult. ie: witches, warlocks, card readers, phone-a-psychic, astrologers, people who read their horoscope every day!

    The Bible mentions 'familiar' spirits (demons). They have no bodies so they can look through your past history and give you the info and then people believe people who give readings are the real deal.

    They want to turn people away from God and His Word (The Bible) to get a word of encouragement; as we do in here. We encourage and teach others what we have learned. I know God doesn't want us to read our horoscope and later, read a chapter of the Bible. That is a MIXTURE, and God hates mixtures. Look it up.

    Most Churches do not teach on these matters! They don't want to scare your Tithe, elsewhere. Pay for silence. Then you experience some horrid things in your life and you wonder why God doesn't love you? Why doesn't He answer your prayers?

    Put it together! Why should He speak to you if you're going to run to an occultist or psychic, to get a word too??

    Throw out your idols! Your heart will lead you to them. If you have extended family that does that stuff; stay away. If your church won't mention it? Find another who does. Get free.
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Did you reply to the right person? Your topic seems very different.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Someone said the 1st Church was Moses leading the children of Israel out of Egypt.

    They praised God that first day, but even after all the miracles they whined for fleshly things.

    I stand by my reply.
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 1
    I didn't write that, so you replied to the wrong person. Whomever wrote that won't see your message unless you reply to their specific comment.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 1
    I think I did. I will check it later when I get back home. Blessings on you, beloved of God.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 1:14
    Melvin, so you claim that the Esau Edomites are of Europe? It was Europeans who built the churches, printed the Bibles and sent missionaries all over the world to the glory of Jesus spreading the gospel?

    What has Africa done? Did Africa ever know the gospel until white missionaries told them? Can you explain please

    Paul the apostle to the Gentiles went to Greece, not Africa to my knowledge.


 

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