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  • Minnie Evans on 1 Corinthians 15
    Why are Jews the chosen people?

    They hated Gods Teaching.

    When the trumpet blows are they going to hear it and be caught up in the rapture?

    What about people that don't get baptized?

    Everybody isn't going to Heaven?
  • Amanda - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    The first covenant was made between God and Abraham with the circumcision as a symbol. Out of Abraham God promised a great nation, and God would be their protector. Hence the whole story of the Jews.

    Although they, time and again, disobey God, but God still have a covenant with then and will deal with them in the final 7 years during the tribulation. (for those who still did not accept His son, Jesus Christ)

    Baptism....... Only Jesus......nothing else!!

    God is Good!!
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Actually the first covenant was with Noah

    Genesis 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

    Genesis Chapter 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

    12 And God said, This [is] the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that [is] with you, for perpetual generations:

    13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

    14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Genesis 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews can be not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Minnie Evans, That is a good question. Here is what I know. God didn't choose the Jews. He created them, Isaiah 43:1. So, why are they called the Chosen People? What were they chosen for? Better yet, what did God create Israel for? Was there a purpose? I would like to hear opinions on this.
  • Mishael Awake at 130 am CST - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    God chose them to become His peculiar people and be a witness to the world.

    You have to admit there's something to it. This entire planet wants the Jews to evaporate so they can have Israel without Jews in it. Russia, Syria, Iran, want it bad!!

    The Chinese have rebuilt the Silk Road (google that), so as to ship goods to the world and nose thumb the Americans. If Russia attempts to nuke Israel,

    God will wipe them off the map. I saw part of a prophesy about that.

    If you don't believe me then check out news on Jerusalem Post dot com. They show all the sneaking around news that the US national news media refuses to show. SHAME on American journalists. At least 700 Club reports news on Israel.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Mishael may I suggest you spend an hour learning the wonders of Judaism.

    Google this: chabad kabbalah soul of judaism
  • Mishael on Acts 1919 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Read it, Bob. I knew it had to be bad because of the Book of Lamentations. I know that the end of the earth was going to be bad. God has to eradicate contrary religions, beliefs.

    That's why it is so important in evangelizing that people get the newborns into a Christian church and study group.

    I know from my studies that God is going to give the Jews a choice to repent and run to Him only; receive Jesus as their long awaited for, Messiah. Of course that will happen after the Caught Up event. Also the other events to endure. If they don't believe in Jesus at that time, there will be no more remedy for them. The wheat will be separated from the chaff; the goats from the sheep. Everywhere. God is no respecter of persons.

    I didn't know how deeply they are into mysticism; esoteric and occult belief.

    Hard to believe it was that all consuming.

    Satan has something for everyone. My experience: he doesn't like to lose the ones who served him knowingly or unknowingly. Everyone who has dabbled...better repent and get all idols out of the home. It gives "them" permission to come in. Destroy it; pour paint over it. Acts 19:13-19

    Thanks for sending that, Bob.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Mishael, I am glad you read it and understand how evil it is. Think about that next time you want to pray a blessing for those who believe that stuff. Hollywood celebs who wear the red string around their wrists are into this mess. Think Madonna and even some the family of the prez are into this.

    This understanding of Kabbalah gives new meaning to this: Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    I live in South Florida with the 3rd largest concentration of Jews in the USA. When I came to the Lord in late 89 I decided I wanted to study the old testament and decided to study from the Jewish perspective, after all it is supposed to be their book right? Why study the OT from Lutherans, Baptists or charismatics?

    Anyways I went to the library and started reading Jewish literature and came across this stuff and I could hardly believe it. So how come messianic Jews do not come out and expose and denounce this? They know what it is as they use the symbols and words associated with this.

    Those who claim to be Noahides (laws given to Noah not in the Bible) are from this same group. This is the group pushing YESHUA as the name of our savior Jesus. These groups claim Christ was a master of kabbalah and this is how he performed his miracles, the unpardonable sin in my opinion.

    One last thing and the highest symbol in the Kabbalah system is proudly displayed on the Israeli flag. Present this info to your church and do not be shocked when you are told to leave.

    PS I came out of the new age baby occult filth so I knew what this evil was. Praise the Lord my private Baptist Bible school teaching in middle school kicked in when I saw this vile evil. Look into the Noahide laws and their penalty.
  • Faye ballard - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    They were slaves for a long period of time.....moses was a jew
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    GOD DIVORCED ISRAEL so did God divorced the Jews?

    No Moses was not of the tribe of Judah, we was of Levi.

    1 Chronicles 23:14 Now concerning Moses the man of God, his sons were named of the tribe of Levi.
  • Mishael on SIGNS of the TIMES - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Our society says what it says in 2 Peter 3:4, 'Where is the Promise of His (Jesus's) coming?

    Verse 10: But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the Night. Massive spiritual darkness. Pretty much like 2020, huh?

    Verse 12: LOOKING FOR and hastening to the coming of the Day of GOD...

    If it's just another day upon a 1000 previous days, and no big deal??

    Either we're ALL IN now, or we may sleep and miss it. Jesus frequently taught times and seasons to farmers, shepherds, fishermen; He said how is it that you can't read THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES that you're living in?

    It could happen any time truly. People are engrossed with the virus, no jobs, shaky economy. What happens if there's a rollout on fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado outbreaks, electric grid gone down ...etc

    Look what's happened just in the past 4 months!? Massive hoarding, whining, people armed to the gills and angry. Huge numbers of deaths from virus, the annual flu season; defeated diseases reoccurring because people stubbornly refuse to vaccinate children! See a newborn with whooping cough?

    Quit banking on more time and get saved NOW. For once in your life admit you are a sinful flawed human being. Jesus will help you with that. You will miss the Rapture if you procrastinate. (Caught Up)

    Give God your life now. Choose wisely. It is not hard to admit you're a sinner.

    If you have ever told a lie; stolen a pen from work, lewd thoughts of the opposite sex or same sex, coveted your neighbors riding lawnmower or his spouse; treat your parents like their minds are gone, don't kill your unborn; have Budda statues or beer can art in the house & worship them; never attend church because a sports event starts early. Adultery.

    The Bible says if we even do one of those sins, we are guilty of ALL 10!!

    Give your stubborn heart to God NOW and let Him work the details of your redemption. Ask God to baptize you with His Holy Spirit. Tell friends you're born again!
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Minnie, to your questions:

    a. Deuteronomy 7:6-8 gives us the most concise & beautiful answer to your question on the "Jews being God's chosen". Simply, because He loved this people (Israel) & would abide with the oath made to their forefathers. In theological terms, we call this "Election". Their lineage (as for all of us) started with Adam & Eve, then after the Flood (i.e. the Anger of God) destroyed the Earth, except for Noah & his family plus animals, the children of Noah then repopulated the Earth. One of his sons, Shem, was the father of many, many others & from one of those, Abraham came & you can follow the story from there to Jacob (Israel). As well, the Jews (Israel) didn't "hate God's teaching", but certainly, they were unfaithful to God many times during their ancestry, even to the point of rejection of God's Messiah, putting Him to the Cross.

    b. Only those who have been washed from their sins through the merits of Jesus death on the Cross will "hear the Trumpet call". So this includes both Jews & Gentiles who have been saved through faith & not by obedience to the Law.

    c. If you mean 'water baptized' then Scripture tells us that water baptism is symbolic (just as the Lord' Supper) to outwardly show what has taken place inwardly in a person. So, baptism gives the new believer the testimony of obedience & a clear conscience of God's Work in them (1 Peter 3:20,21). But if you mean "if people refuse to, or can't be baptized", then one would need to find out the reasons.

    d. Matthew 7:21-23: Even those who claim to have done mighty things in Jesus' Name can be rejected from Heaven, only those who do the Father's Will, will enter it. In other words, there are many being very busy in good works, maybe trying to get God's Approval, but haven't been saved. And what is the Father's Will? That we repent of our sins because of Jesus' Sacrifice for us, be born again of His Spirit, & living a Christ-centred life. These are the children of the Kingdom.


 

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