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  • Jmonyae on Revelation 16:3
    so i have an important question but this has nothing to do with this chapter,how do you know when your are saved.
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 16:3
    Hello, there's a page at the bottom that says 'Become a Christian' that is what the Bible says how to become one. If you have followed the Bible to become a Christian then you're a Christian: Link - God bless you!
  • Geoff - in Reply on Revelation 16
    That's a nice question. That's an important question. And, not to take away from previous replies because they are great responses, but to try to be helpful, since you asked a simple yet very important question I hope to give a direct answer. We are saved not by works, not by anything we do. But, by Faith that Jesus is God's son. And, Faith that God is our creator. So, if you know, without seeing, and you trust that Jesus is your brother, King and Saviour., then you're saved. But we do see examples all the time. Just acknowledge them and say Thank you.

    The only works we really need to do, is working on ourselves to be as Jesus teaches. When we work on ourselves we then reflect better who God wants us to become. We'll slip and backslide and when we do, we'll feel ashamed and guilt and like we let Jesus down and we'll repent. We won't abuse Grace and we won't say Grace is a free pass to be a jerk.

    Jesus says to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and I struggle with that. I screw up 40-50 times a day in my head, with judging, and selfish thoughts. I'm saved because Jesus loves me and you and even those we don't like I have Trust in that, and when I read Revelations it's not scary to me. I don't dread it. For me, it's a slow growth. But, I'm not the same as I used to be. Because God has pulled me from my "pits." God and Jesus did something we couldn't do. Or, wouldn't do. Keep reading, keep asking questions, and think about the answers, don't be swayed by a person's personal agenda. Jesus came from Heaven to find you (us). He wants us to be with him. Which is sometimes hard to believe because we know how rotten we are. We can quote the bible with spiritual vanity, but it's not by our hands but by Faith and Trust in what Jesus did for us in living and dying and rising for us. And, Faith in God's plan for the World. The World, of past people, current people and for people not even born. It's overwhelming and crazy sounding. But, that's Faith that it's true.
  • Divine Princess - in Reply on Revelation 16:3
    Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Father God had raised Jesus from the dead, you will be saved.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 16:3

    I would read through 1 John Chapter 5. John speaks about the doctrine of salvation. He brings together in summary form all that he has talked about in order to give assurance to those who believe, but also to give caution to those who think they are saved but they're really not. But this is a great chapter to read. I would encourage you to read the entire chapter. But look Verse 13. "These things have I written unto you that believe upon the name of the Son of God; so that you might know that you have eternal life, and that you may believe on the Son of God." So John is telling them, I'm giving you proof so that you can know assuredly that you belong to Christ.

    In 2 Corinthians 13:5, Paul says "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" So we are to examine ourselves, whether we be in the faith;

    That's not a religious term about the faith. The word faith in the New Testament is a word speaks of literally being under the persuasion of God's Spirit. That's what the word faith means. It means persuasion. So are you under the influence of God's Spirit? Are you in the faith?

    Secondly, we are to prove our own selves. We do our own testing, not of somebody else, but we test ourselves. And then Paul presents the criteria. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except you be reprobates? Reprobate means rejected.

    The criteria is that Christ be in you. It doesn't say anything about the right and wrong doctrine, or what church you go to or don't go to. Is Christ in you? Have you experienced a Spiritual birth and now Christ lives in you?

    Paul said in Colossians that Christ in you is the hope of glory. You have no other hope other than Christ in you. If Christ is not in you, you have no hope. If Christ is in you, you will have a hunger and desire for Him because His Spirit will give you that hunger to continue on.
  • Weslee311 - in Reply on Revelation 16:3
    Believe on the name of the Son of God and thou shalt be saved. If Christ is the Son of God, then that means that 1) he was before he came, he existed from eternity. 2) That what he came to do is what he accomplished. There are no sinners in hell that Christ died for, every one that he came to save are safe and secure in Him forever. The blood he shed on the cross was all the payment needed to pay for their sins.


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