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  • Opoipirwoth Macmillan on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    Please I need help on the book of Daniel in 7, pls may some one help explain the prophesy? what does the prophet meant about the sea, the beast with the four wings and four heads? does he mean what has already happened, or what's gonna happen?
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    The whore that sits on many WATERS

    Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. ( are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.)

    ...... Revelation 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS, keep this in mind.

    Revelation 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

    Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

    for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. I do not see Rome here since when did the Lord send prophets to Rome?

    Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    the two witnesses of God who confront the false prophet are mentioned here:

    Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

    NOT in Rome nor in Mecca nor in the USA
  • Ira israel - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    He was crucified in America which is spiritual egypt in the bible..his image was crucified and his teachings..no where in the bible is a white christ..if so prove me wrong
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    Ira, you write prove you wrong Jesus was not white? Well here you go but I am not sure you shall believe the Bible.

    Revelation 1:14 - His [Jesus] HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

    (Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN, not black) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

    Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

    Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

    My Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem and you claim your Christ was crucified in America? what?
  • Bob Smith - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    Go on youtube and look up Kent Hovind and his videos on the WOE Class. I think there is 12 to 14 videos by him on this subject. Very good!!!
  • Frank - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    This dream is similar to the dream that God showed to Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel 7:13-The four great beasts are the four kingdoms that will rise from the earth, in the previous chapter, four kingdoms was also mentioned, is this the same prophecy? Is Rome the fourth kingdom?

    The first beast is Babylon, Babylon is compared with a lion with eagle wings- Dan 2:38. Babylon was very powerful in those days, ruler of the beast is lion and ruler of the birds is engle.

    The 2nd beast is bear- why was the bear raised on one of its side-Persia was stronger than the Media which became the Persian empire. The bear had three ribs in the month-the Persian conquered 3 kingdoms-Babylon, Lydia and Egypt.

    The 3rd beast looked like a leopard, Greece is compared to a leopard, leopard is fast and one with wings is even faster, Alexander the Great conquered the whole civilized world in about 8 years. Alexander died at the age of 33, his son was too young to rule and so the kingdom was ruled by four generals, that was why the leopard has four heads.

    Rome is the 4th beast, a little known kingdom that waged war against the churches and destroyed them. The little horn kingdom are the anti Christ or satan. The 10 horns are ten kings that will come from these kingdoms.

    The little 10 horns will come from Rome, will subdue 3 of the 10 horns, change the laws and times and oppress the saint. Whoever fulfills this is an anti Christ.

    Note that the anti christ will come from Rome and will have his own kingdom, and it's own constitution.
  • Chris - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    Daniel chapter 7 prophecies speak of the various earthly kingdoms through the ages. I can't go into too much detail here: you should do further research. But here's a quick outline.

    1. v3: the four beasts that Daniel saw, were the four great kingdoms on Earth. The first was a lion with eagle's wings. This represented the Babylonian Empire, during which Daniel lived.

    2. v5: the second was a bear & this animal represented the Medo-Persian Empire which succeeded the Babylonian.

    3. v6: the third was a leopard with four wings & four heads. This represented the Greek Empire.

    4. vv7,8: the fourth beast was indescribable because of its ferocity. And this beast represented the Roman Empire.

    "The sea" may have been the Mediterranean Sea, to which all these Empires have some connection to. "The beast with the four wings & the four heads" = the Leopard. Alexander the Great speedily (= the wings) conquered the civilized world by the age of 28 from Illyricum to the River Ganges (= India). As well, after his death, his Empire was divided into four parts (= 4 heads): Asia Minor, Syria, Egypt & Macedonia.

    As you know, that all these Empires have come & gone according to prophecy, but there is something still remaining. Even though the Roman Empire has long gone, there are still ten horns from it that exist. We can't tell who these ten rulers are but appear to be some confederation of ten nations who will arise during the day of the Anti-Christ (= little horn, v8), who comes out of the ten nations. See Dan 7:23-25 & Rev 12:3. So there is still prophecy to be fulfilled & we need to be watching out for certain countries that will come to the forefront in preparation for their rebellion against God & His Christ.

    I hope this helps you in understanding this passage.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Daniel 7 - 3 years ago
    The whore that sits on many WATERS

    Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. ( are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.)

    ...... Revelation 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS.

    Revelation 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

    Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

    for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

    Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    the two witnesses of God are mentioned here:

    Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

    NOT Rome nor in Mecca or the USA



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