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  • Arissa Nolastname on Obadiah 1 - 3 years ago
    Let's go back to the Garden of Eden. God created Adam & Eve in the image of God. Then came serpent, &his seed past on down from Adam to us, so that we are no longer made in the image of God.From the time of serpent came Cain, the firstborn. Cain murdered 2nd born, Abel. But, because of the blessing of the first-born, the male child that opens womb must be consecrated to the Lord, God did not strike Cain down, but placed a mark on him. Fast forward, Jacob's mother does not want Esau to get blessing of first-born son, but Jacob, so Jacob tricks his father &steals the blessing for the first-born son. Jacob pays a price for it, & then later makes covenant with God, gets his name changed to Israel, &his sons come under his umbrella.We don't really know what evil Esau did other than going after "foreign" women. Esau gets a bad name. Due to Jacob's sin he, like a scapegoat had to run off into the wilderness looking for Laban. God blessed Esau as the first-born anyway, he didn't need Jacob's spoil. So, it's a bit twisted. Usually the one whose sin is transferred onto the scapegoat lives at ease and remains in the household, while the scapegoat is cast out to die in the wilderness. But here we have Jacob who committed the crime, and had to flee for his life. It's a bit twisted.So fast forward again to 2020. The heathen/pagans/freemasons/ nazis/kkk/white supremacists are hiding behind the mark of Cain, as if they are the descendants of Cain. Whether they are first-born or not, from Europe, USA or Timbuktu, it does not matter. The fact is they've perverted the word of God to fool the people of God. So, like wolves in sheep skin they hide behind Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc pretending to be children of God. They"mark" the people of God, after tricking/deceiving/pulling the wool over our eyes, enslave/exploit, rob us of our inheritance/birthright/blessing through sorcery/ witchcraft/soul tying & transferring/redirecting the flow of blessing to others. So justice must come!
  • Chris - In Reply on Obadiah 1 - 3 years ago
    Arissa, that was an interesting read & also about those who hide "behind the mark of Cain".

    Just the matter of "scapegoat": as you know the meaning of that word is "a person (or, group) made to bear the blame for others or to suffer in their place". I can see how you interpret it this way, but I question whether Jacob was made a scapegoat & still enjoyed peace. I would not connect the meaning of Scapegoat to the situation described here. I don't think Jacob was a scapegoat: he did wrong in stealing his brother's blessing & therefore was advised by his mother to 'make a run for it', but Esau himself did foolishly, in selling his birthright for a some pottage in the first place. I don't see that either of these brothers were guiltless & so there was no transference of sin onto another. As well, Esau didn't do too badly himself, as he married & raised a large family & army & of course settled in Edom, becoming the father of the Edomites. Of course, all this was in fulfilment of God's Word to Rebekah in Gen 25:23.

    Gen 4:15: "...therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him". We don't know what type of mark this was, but most likely, "the LORD marked out Cain...", i.e. set Cain aside for Divine protection from his enemies, just as believers have been marked out with the indwelling Holy Spirit & His Seal upon them. So if any of these people you mentioned (KKK, Freemasons, Nazis, etc.) hide behind Cain's mark, that is of private interpretation, but it is certain, as you say, that all of these do hide behind the cloak of Christianity, & in so doing, not only bring the Name of Jesus into discredit & disgrace, but deceive our govts. & nominal Christians alike of their relevance & position in society. They (as we ourselves), have to stand before our Great Judge.

    Thank you for your thought-provoking Comment.
  • Arissa Nolastname - In Reply on Obadiah 1 - 3 years ago
    To Chris:Thanks for reading and for feedback. I don't think you quite get what I meant.

    I did not mean that Jacob was a scapegoat, but rather in the twisted version of the idea, he had to leave his home to go find his uncle so he would be "safe" from Esau.

    It's part of freemason corruption to twist things, to twist the Word of God.



    So, as you explained so nicely the meaning of Scapegoat, you see in the story that it is a bit twisted. It's a bit too complicated for me to put into easy words for someone to understand. It's how the occult works- so it becomes distorted, and unclear, but only in Christ can the wisdom,understanding, knowledge, & discernment be given so one can see things as they are, and not how they appear to be.

    The scapegoat idea in our day is when the "sins"/filth/persona of one person is dumped onto someone else who is being exploited for their "anointing",talents, ideas, energy etc. such that the person being used as the scapegoat is the recipient of the negative energy that comes from the person who is being masked behind the persona of the "scapegoat". The person who has been exploited is falsely accused, and cast away- sent away, kicked out, given the boot, excommunicated, locked up/incarcerated as white supremacists have done to people of color for years. So, the idea of the scapegoat is not the same as in the Old Testament context, but a twisted version of it.

    I know I'm still not being clear.

    It's too early to be thinking this and trying to explain it.
  • Chris - In Reply on Obadiah 1 - 3 years ago
    Thanks for the explanation, Arissa. I think I understand your meaning now, as you said that it is a "twisted version of the idea". Maybe like a 'fall guy'. Anyway, no matter, I see what you're saying, and thanks for your explanation.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Obadiah 1 - 3 years ago
    Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. God could not tolerate that.

    Satan tempted Eve with food too.



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