Hi Kevin, Jesus is the name in English since we speak English and the KJV is an English Bible.
One could argue that the word 'Yahusha' is actually false, because you're attempting to use an incompletely translated name using English characters. If you spoke Hebrew you would speak and write that word differently, and not just any Hebrew, but it would have to be old, ancient Hebrew. Also, since the New Testament is in Greek, to be precise you would need to learn the exact Greek dialect at the time of Jesus in order to pronounce and write Jesus's name properly. Otherwise it's 'false teaching'? The point is that it's normal for each language to have the words translated. It would be a logical fallacy to assume that because J in English wasn't made until later that the city of Jerusalem doesn't exist, for example, or that it's not called Jerusalem. Should we be upset that the United States of America is also translated into each language too, like in Hebrew- so are they lying by calling us that in their own language? Just challenging the assumptions about language. Jesus is the name in English.
Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.
Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.
Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.
Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.
You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.
No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.
Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.
You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.
Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!
Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.
The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes:
Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.
The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.
In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?
Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully
Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)
11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)
with the music of your lyres,
under you a mattress of maggots,
over you a blanket of worms.'
(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)
12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,
MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?
How did you come to be cut to the ground,
conqueror of nations?
13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,
I will raise my throne above God's stars.
I will sit on the Mount of Assembly
far away in the north.
14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,
I will make myself like the Most High.'
So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.
Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua
Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.
Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in Rev 22 and in Isaiah 14 Yeshua fell from heaven making him Lucifer essentially
Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.
Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.
Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.
Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.
You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.
No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.
Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.
You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.
Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!
Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mathew 21:43 Therefore say I (Jesus speaks to Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Lets see was it the Jews who killed Jesus and Christians? The Greeks who spread the orthodox christian faith all over eastern Europe.)
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 - 16 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
In Mark 15: 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard [it], said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
these Jews did not even understand what Jesus was saying in Hebrew
John 19:13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. so why would this tell you in the Hebrew Gabbatha if it was originally in Hebrew? NO it was in Greek, it was Jews who killed Christians
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin.
Israel stumbled at the cross, and fell at the stoning of Stephen.
BUT through their (Israel's) fall, salvation came to the Gentiles through the apostle Paul and the gospel, believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, all by grace through faith.
God will resume His prophetic program with Israel after The Body Of Christ is raptured (taken) out of the way.
Kevin, I would just take up one point with you, as Adam & Bob have written well on the spelling/usage of names.
My point refers to : "The Bible is very clear about salvation being conditional upon using the correct names". This has raised my interest (apart from what the spelling should be from the original languages). Are you saying, that if the incorrect name is used, then salvation is denied? Any Scriptures to back this up? Thank you.
Your response actually proved my point, but you don't yet realize it.
>As to Jerusalem it's also wrong. It's Yerusalayim.
I thought you would say that and my point in my last comment is that your new word is wrong. The reason is that it's still not in Hebrew or Greek. Hebrew uses the Jewish script and is a different word than what you've written. You can use Google Translate to see for yourself or just research the language. English uses Roman/Latin characters and you're thinking a word is wrong when it isn't then attempting to only partly translate it back to a language while still keeping your own familiar characters. Someone could call what you did there 'false'.
>The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Why would a name in one language ever be the same in another language with a different alphabet? Jesus is the correctly translated name into English. The word Jesus is a different word in each language such as using the Hebrew or Greek alphabet. What you assume is the 'real word' in Roman / Latin characters is still incorrect because you're not using the right alphabet. If you actually want to say/read Jesus's name in the original languages you would actually need to learn to read/write ancient Greek and Hebrew. You can see what it looks like on this site: Link
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He came in his fathers name, literally!
His Fathers name is Yahuah.
And his name is like his fathers, Yahusha.
Yahu, meaning the Father.
Sha, means saves.
Put them together and Yahusha means Yahuah saves or Yahuah's Salvation.
Jesus means absolutely nothing!
Acts 4:10-12
10then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the NAME of Yahusha
of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom Yahuah raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
11Yahusha is the stone you builders rejected,which has become the cornerstone.'
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."
The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Christian Bibles use the false name Jesus Christ.
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One could argue that the word 'Yahusha' is actually false, because you're attempting to use an incompletely translated name using English characters. If you spoke Hebrew you would speak and write that word differently, and not just any Hebrew, but it would have to be old, ancient Hebrew. Also, since the New Testament is in Greek, to be precise you would need to learn the exact Greek dialect at the time of Jesus in order to pronounce and write Jesus's name properly. Otherwise it's 'false teaching'? The point is that it's normal for each language to have the words translated. It would be a logical fallacy to assume that because J in English wasn't made until later that the city of Jerusalem doesn't exist, for example, or that it's not called Jerusalem. Should we be upset that the United States of America is also translated into each language too, like in Hebrew- so are they lying by calling us that in their own language? Just challenging the assumptions about language. Jesus is the name in English.
JJJJ Jews do not exist either?
these Yeshua group are basically DENYING the King James Bible.
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
The angel Gabriel told Mary to name him Jesus, not Yeshu which is a curse Jews say may his name be blotted out from under heaven.
Luke 1: 26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
So do we believe the Bible or Jewish fables that the New Testament Bible was originally Hebrew and mistranslated by those pagan anti-Semitic Greeks?
Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.
Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.
Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.
Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.
You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.
No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.
Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.
You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.
Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!
Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.
Prov 8:17 I love those who love me.
The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes:
Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.
The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.
In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?
Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully
Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)
11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)
with the music of your lyres,
under you a mattress of maggots,
over you a blanket of worms.'
(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)
12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,
MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?
How did you come to be cut to the ground,
conqueror of nations?
13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,
I will raise my throne above God's stars.
I will sit on the Mount of Assembly
far away in the north.
14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,
I will make myself like the Most High.'
So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.
Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua
Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.
Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in Rev 22 and in Isaiah 14 Yeshua fell from heaven making him Lucifer essentially
Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.
Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.
Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.
Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.
You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.
No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.
Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.
You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.
Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!
Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.
Prov 8:17 I love those who love me.
A: Mathew 21:43 Therefore say I (Jesus speaks to Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Lets see was it the Jews who killed Jesus and Christians? The Greeks who spread the orthodox christian faith all over eastern Europe.)
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 - 16 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
In Mark 15: 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard [it], said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
these Jews did not even understand what Jesus was saying in Hebrew
John 19:13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. so why would this tell you in the Hebrew Gabbatha if it was originally in Hebrew? NO it was in Greek, it was Jews who killed Christians
Romans 11:1
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin.
Israel stumbled at the cross, and fell at the stoning of Stephen.
BUT through their (Israel's) fall, salvation came to the Gentiles through the apostle Paul and the gospel, believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, all by grace through faith.
God will resume His prophetic program with Israel after The Body Of Christ is raptured (taken) out of the way.
I don't know where you got your information from but it's not correct.
If you read a bible for yourself then you may start to gain some insight, knowledge and understanding?
The Bible is very clear about salvation being conditional upon using the correct names.
The KJV doesn't ever tell you "the Lords" name?
No his name is not "the Lord" nor is it "God"
If you bother to read a bible then you will see for yourself that we are commanded to call upon His name. "Yahuah"
As to Jerusalem it's also wrong.
It's Yerusalayim.
Once again;
Acts 4:10-12
10then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the NAME of Yahusha
of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom Yahuah raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
11Yahusha is the stone you builders rejected,which has become the cornerstone.'
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."
The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Christian Bibles use the false name Jesus Christ.
Acts 4:10-12
10then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the NAME of Yahusha
of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom Yahuah raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
11Yahusha is the stone you builders rejected,which has become the cornerstone.'
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."
The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Christian Bibles use the false name Jesus Christ.
If you don't get it, that's ok.
Yahuah only wants those who call upon His name-Yahuah and His sons name Yahusha.
Lucifer is a created being.
Not the same!
My point refers to : "The Bible is very clear about salvation being conditional upon using the correct names". This has raised my interest (apart from what the spelling should be from the original languages). Are you saying, that if the incorrect name is used, then salvation is denied? Any Scriptures to back this up? Thank you.
Your response actually proved my point, but you don't yet realize it.
>As to Jerusalem it's also wrong. It's Yerusalayim.
I thought you would say that and my point in my last comment is that your new word is wrong. The reason is that it's still not in Hebrew or Greek. Hebrew uses the Jewish script and is a different word than what you've written. You can use Google Translate to see for yourself or just research the language. English uses Roman/Latin characters and you're thinking a word is wrong when it isn't then attempting to only partly translate it back to a language while still keeping your own familiar characters. Someone could call what you did there 'false'.
>The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Why would a name in one language ever be the same in another language with a different alphabet? Jesus is the correctly translated name into English. The word Jesus is a different word in each language such as using the Hebrew or Greek alphabet. What you assume is the 'real word' in Roman / Latin characters is still incorrect because you're not using the right alphabet. If you actually want to say/read Jesus's name in the original languages you would actually need to learn to read/write ancient Greek and Hebrew. You can see what it looks like on this site: Link
"That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoureth NOT the Son, honoureth Not the Father which hath sent him."
Jesus has numerous names; having different meanings. John 1:21 shows his name at birth...Jesus."
It's the only name by which you are saved.
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