Bible Discussion Thread

in Matthew chapter 24 it says and this generation shall not pass. A lot of christians seem to think it is refering to the reuniting of isreal in 1948. What do you believe.

Donovan, the meaning of 'generation' is important here. As we know, this word has been used throughout Scripture, but most today only understand it to apply to forty years. However, the Greek word 'genea' also allows for 'family, race, age'. Though the nation of Israel being (re) formed in May 1948 is significant to end time prophecy, the Lord's reference in Mt 24:34 to generation can only be applied to 'this age' = those alive prior to the closing of this age of unbridled sin. Jesus took his disciples to the Mt. of Olives & described the destruction of the Temple. His disciples asked (v3), when all this would happen. So Jesus describes what we refer to as the Great Tribulation, that would not only affect Israel severely, but would impact all people all over the world. Jesus doesn't give a date ( Mt 24:36) as this fact was known only to the Father. This could mean that Jesus, in his humanity, was not aware of it, or that the Godhead kept it hidden from us so we always remain ready.

Donovan - unless the United Nations, is the Lord, it was they who gathered and created the Israeli state in 1948. I think this is a counterfeit creation. Lucis trust publications (used to be Lucifer trust) is a printing arm of the UN.

Lucis trust about: History "The Lucis Trust was established by Alice and Foster Bailey as a vehicle to foster recognition of the universal spiritual principles"...."A publishing company, initially named Lucifer Publishing Company"

Support of the United Nations: "The Lucis Trust has Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations (ECOSOC) and World Goodwill is recognized by the Department of Public Information at the United Nations as a Non-Governmental Organisation (NGO)"