Bible Discussion Thread

The FIRST thing to note in Verse 1, is that this epistlebwas NOT addressed to everyone in the world, but to the 12 scattered tribes of Israel, scattered all over the world, through SLAVERY(CAPTIVITY). Now THIS SHOULD give you an idea of WHO these ppl are, because the Real Jews/Israelites were taken out of the land, sent off into CAPTIVITY for their sins, as Christ Himself said in Luke 21:24..proving those living in Israel today, CANT be the real Jews..but rather jew-ish!!
This WHY James said "My Brethren" which literally mean "My BROTHERS" because James is also an Israelite!
If u bypass this first 2 verses without acknowledging this, then u would think this epistle was for everyone. Its not!

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. God moved me to read this after asking him if all the Bible was true.

Yes, What you have said is all true, because its the word of The Most High. The problem though, is when we read a Book, ANY Book, and is not aware of the subject matter or character in the book, else HOW can we understand the story? In the entire Bible, the subject matter is ISRAEL, and not EVERYONE in the world. Therefore, no matter where you read, youll begin to notice, it was always about the descendants of Jacob(whose name was changed to "Israel"). The new and Old Covenants was with Abraham and his descendants, not with everyone in the world!!

Jeremiah 3:8
"And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."
God DIVORCED Israel with the promise of remarriage
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Matthew 15:24 But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Galations 3:29 shows those in Christ ARE the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Israel.
Matthew 15:24 - But he Jesus answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Think for a second! Christ could only be made a curse for the people whobwere UNDER the curse. Those are the Israelites only. Because the laws was given only to them..so the curse of the law, by their disobedience, could only come upon them!!rnThis is WHY when it says Christ was made a curse for "US"..that US is Israel...and that the blessings of Abraham may come upon the "Gentiles"..these "gentiles" were the northern Kingdom of Israel, they were "called " gentiles because they were living "LIKE" the Gentiles around them. Now, think about the parable of the prodigal son. Notice it said the younger son went off living riotuously? Yes, that signifies the 9 rebellious tribes of ISRAEL!!

Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: (29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

There are 10s of thousands of Messianic born again Jews. In lsrael and in this USA.rnSuch hatred have you.

Every messianic jew I have conversed with claims the new testament was originally in Hebrew then mistranslated into Greek by antisemitic Greeks. There are thousands of New testament Greek manuscripts and ZERO Hebrew
So is the new testament antisemitic? they claim it is. Read chapters of John 6 and John 8 see who Jesus was speaking to, not the Romans. I have a bachelors in theology and a masters degree in ministry. I have studied this issue in depth.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?

A: Mat 21:43 - Therefore say I (Jesus speaks to Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. GREEKS

Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."rnThe promises were made ONLY to Abrahams SEED, therefore those "Greeks" had to be Israelites!! No other way around it.rnProof: Romans 9:3 " For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my BRETHREN, my KINSMEN according to the FLESH:rnrn4 Who are ISRAELITES; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the PROMISES;"rnTHE PROMISES WAS MADE TO THE DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM ONLY..AND EVERYTHING ELSE PERTAINS TO REAL ISRAELITES..NOT THOSE IN ISRAEL TODAY. Christ said His ppl would go into slavery. Luke 21:24

Did you guys even realize that those GREEKS mentioned in scriptures, were indeed ISRAELITES?
The scripture said there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW NOR GREEK!! So WHY would it make a comparison between ONLY those TWO nation of people..and didnt even mention the other nations of the world?
Do you even understand WHY there were Israelites LIVING in Greece? Here is why, Joel 3:6 "The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye SOLD UNTO THE GRECIANS, that ye might remove them far from their border."
CLEARLY, THIS is how these Israelites ended up in Greece.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's SEED, and heirs according to the PROMISE."
Promis made to israel

Yeshua is Lucifer per the Complete (Messianic) Jewish Bible by author David Stern
The MORNING STAR (Lucifer in the KJV) who FELL from heaven is in Isaiah 14 who goes to the pit.
Yeshua is the MORNING STAR of Revelation 22. This is what Messianic Jews teach and believe
according to the Complete Jewish Bible by David Stern a messianic Jew.
messianic Jews why do they HATE the name JESUS?
Why do they refuse to be called Christians?
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men,
whereby we must be saved

The messianic Jews knows that the real "Jesus" whose Hebrew name is Yahawashi, is a black man. Else, HOW could He be hid IN EGYPT, form King Herod? Christ was dark skinned, ( Revelation 1,) Moses and Paul were BOTH mistaken for Egyptians..and both of them were not( Acts 21:28-41)..they were calling Jews "Niger" in the Bible. ( Acts 13:1).
The conclusion to the matter is this, EVERY nation of people, yes, including the Amalekites living in Israel today, have had The Most High's Chosen ppl, as slaves ..in Captivity all over the world..Egypt, Persia, Rome, Babylon, USA, the Caribbean, etc. So, What a man sow, that shall he ALSO reap. Revelation 13:10 and Isaiah 14 sums up what goin to happen soon

Revelation 1:14 - His Jesus HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN, not black as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
The world hates white Christians esp.
Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Hi Curtis,rnrnThe skin color of Jesus and Jews seems really important to you, why is that? Does it change anything whether they were light, dark, medium? People walked a lot in the sun then and were likely quite dark from the sun, but that's different than race. If you look at the Israelites today they are olive skin (medium) middle-Eastern, likely the same as in Jesus's time. You said Jesus is black Rev 1, but I read it and I don't see any verse talking about skin color. So, what verse exactly do you say proves your claim? Secondly, have you prayed to God about this to know the truth?

Yes, Christ did NOT come for everyone. He Himself told us WHO He came for, "The lost sheep of the House of Israel"(9 tribes). SO, WHERE did we get this silly idea that He came for everyone??rn He didnt say the House of Judah, (3 Tribes(these ONLY are called the Jews)because He came to bring the 9 rebellious tribes BACK with the 3, to make them ONE kingdom again.(See Ezekiel 37).rnGalatians3: 13"Christ hath redeemed US from the curse of the law, being made a curse for US: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:rn14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

Jesus already said exactly who he came for. Luke 19:10, Mark 2:17. He came for the lost and sinners. Who is lost and a sinner? Romans 3:23 - Everyone. So, Jesus came for everyone- that's exactly what the Bible says. Jesus gave a firm warning to those who try to deceive others by twisting or denying what Jesus said: Mark 8:38, 1 John 2:22-23.

Matthew 15:24 But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Amos 3:2 You (Israel) only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
Just curious where the 13th gentile gate is to new Jerusalem?

Yes, the seed of abraham is the seed of abraham. abraham begat isaac(didnt even mention ishmael, his firstborn, because he was not the chosen seed.), isaac begat jacob,(it didnt mention esau, even tho esau was jacob's twin brother, which proves again, the there is a chosen seed.)rnso the seed of abraham is the chosen line of people, not everyone in the world!! yes, other nations will be in the kingdom, but for a specific purpose..for "servants and handmaids" and that is what justice indeed is!! every nation has had the real israelites as slaves, therefore, it is only fair that every nation become slaves to the real israelites. thats justice. you reap what you sow!!

You cannot change your nationality, simply because you have accepted Christ. No scripture says that. And please read from verse 1 to see WHO the subject matter is..its all about the descendants Jacob(whose name was changed to "Israel.)
If i moved to China, adopted Buddhism, did all the religious practices, etc..do i suddenly become a Chinese person? No, thats not possible. Its people who make up this nonsense in "christianity" wants to believe that they suddenly become an Israelites just because they accepted Christ. Thats nonsense. In fact, THESE are the people the Scripture refers to: Romans 9:4 "Who are Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption,and the glory, and the covenants,..etc

Christians do not change their nationality. they were divorced Israel from the beginning.
like the woman at the well.
John Chapter 4
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well,...(Jacob's name became ISRAEL)

13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again
Jesus never told her she was not an Israelite

"Divorced Israel" you say? Romans 11:1" I say then, Hath God cast away HIS PEOPLE? GOD FORBID. For I also am an ISRAELITE, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.rn2 God hath NOT cast away HIS PEOPLE which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,rn3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.rn4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have RESERVED TO MYSELF seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.rn5 EVEN SO THEN AT THIS PRESENT TIME ALSO there is a remnant according to the election of grace."rnALWAYS ISRAEL!!

Concerning the "divorced Israelites"..remember what they were BEFORE they were divorced. However, the covenants, OLD AND NEW is STILL with the Israelites, not with EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. Romans 9:3 "3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my BRETHREN, my KINSMEN according to the FLESH:rnrn4 Who are ISRAELITES; TO WHOM PERTAINETH the ADOPTION, and the GLORY, and the COVENANTS, and the giving of the LAW, and the SERVICE of God, and the PROMISES;rnrn5 Whose are the fathers, and OF WHOM as concerning the flesh CHRIST CAME, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."rnHebrews 8:8" also explains WHO both OLD and NEW covenant is for. See WHO Israel is today( Deuteronomy 28)

Please go read it again. I had to point that out to someone recently, and he was shocked that he never knew/realized that the Samaritans WERE Israelites!! The Northern Kingdom(9 tribes) were called "Outcasts" and "Gentiles" ALSO, because they were living LIKE the actual Gentiles. Proof in in Isaiah 11:12. So please go read it again. Every single thing in the Bible is about the REAL Israelites, every parable, story,etc. And im not talking about the fake Jew-ish people in Israel today, because Christ Himself told us that His people, the Israelites would be "LED INTO CAPTIVITY"(SLAVERY) and that ANOTHER nation will take over Jerusalem "UNTIL the times of the gentiles be fulfilled." Luke 21:24

Sir, pay close attention to scripture, else you will miss the truth. Please notice WHICH WELL, they met!! It was "Jacob's well," secondly, when Christ asked her to drink, she asked him why did He ask her for a drink, seeing that the Jews had no dealings with the SAMARITANS!! Pay attention. The story went on to where she asked Him;" Art thou greater than OUR FATHER JACOB who gave us this well.?" She called Jacob HER FATHER, which meant she IS AN ISRAELITE. ..as you said,"Jacob's NAME was changed to "Israel" hence HIS descendants ARE Israelites! She even said "OUR FATHERS worshipped in these mountains....". The Jews(3 tribes) despised the House of Israel(9 tribes) because they went off in sin