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  • Eileen Walker on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    Okay, I am confused. Does this all mean that you MUST attend or belong to a church? What if you have tried seven different churches over time and have found that you don't fit in any of them?
  • Mild Bill - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together,as the manner of some is"Hebrews10:25.The fit is spiritual,not social.In Christ by grace,saved.As physical needs vary by age,so too Christians needs vary by closeness to Christ.What do we see approaching and thus see the need?Sometimes you get,sometimes you give,but it doesn't happen unless you are there with other believers.What Christ wants you to get or give,is directed by his Holy Spirit within you.God makes for you brothers and sisters,some you need,some need you,all need closeness to Christ.Searching may be hard,but forsaking is harmful.When Christ returns,he will find some faithful followers,not captured within the gates of hell.
  • Simpson P Withrow - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    Have you examined yourself to see if you are really saved? Are going to liberal churches who are teaching a false gospel out of a false bible. If you are not getting fed the right food, you will die. If you are not getting the right teaching from the right Bible, your spirit will starve to death. I would suggest you find a church that teaches out of the Good old King James Bible.
  • Paul - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    I know the situation you are currently in is difficult, however, continue to look for a church to attend. At this time I too am looking for a new church to attend and I've attended several, yet have not made a commitment to stay at one particular location. I always make an effort to visit a church at least 3 or 4 times before making a decision. Keep trying, God will provide.
  • Eileen Walker - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    Thanks, Paul. for your comment. However, maybe I did not describe my situation accurately. We have been a member of a particular church for around five years and then bam! something happened that discouraged us and we are not feeling welcome like we used to feel. It was a big issue, in my opinion, and I know I have to forgive. It is difficult and I have had this happen over and over.
  • Freedomborn - Grannie Annie - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    Dear Eileen I understand your Heartache when we Trust others which is part of Love and they hurt us it's hard to Trust again What Randy shared is needed and I have Forgiven but that does not mean that I accept the wrong they did and nor does God and He tells us that all Scripture is for us too 2Tim3:16-18 whenever we are in need including for Reasurence and Encouragement 1Sam30:6, God Loves You.
  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    Hebrews 10:24-25. There are no perfect churches, because it's made up of imperfect people, but what better place for imperfect people to go- if they didn't go, maybe they'd display even more flaws, and maybe no one would even go to church anymore. There will always be a few difficult people, just like any non-church group, but they don't represent the whole. It's also ok to change churches too.
  • Freedomborn to be Perfected - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    I agree Adam we can't judge everyone in a Church by those who hurt us but if their in Leadership others will be polluted so we are to Rebuke and forgive more than once Lk17:3 but if no Repentance we move on I haven't found a Church where all are Perfected in Love and nor am I yet but I'm Aiming for it as God asks us to do Mat5:48 and as Paul and others became before they died 1Jn4:17-18 -Anne
  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    I agree that those in church leadership should have higher standards. The Bible gives such examples of standards for those qualified to become elders of church. 1 Tim. 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Peter 5:1-4.
  • Patty Tozi - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    You know Adam. I have been going to different church denominations trying to find one elder of each church that really cared about their people that attend. They seem to have their mind set on self and pride of themselves. It seems they act out what people need to hear. But behind they carry many rules of how all the heads should act. WHERE IS GOD'S TRUE LOVE? A Compassionate Feeling Heart? God's!
  • Freedomborn in Unity* - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    True Adam but today Woman are taking over the Role of Pastor or Elder which means they are Teaching in Authority over Men and God warns us about this 1Cor14:34-38 1Tim2:11-13 We are equal in Christ Jesus Gal3:28 but our Role remains as your Helpmate. We can share God's Truth or Correct Error but only as Scripture confirms and not in Authority over Men and this is for our Protection -Grannie Annie.
  • Paul - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    I know all to well what you are going through. We had attended our former church 15 years when we left. There was an issue with a family member who could have used some encouragement and direction from church leaders, but all that happened was him being snubbed along with the rest of our family. At the time I was part of the praise and worship team and my wife a former children's church leader.
  • Eileen Walker - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    So, did you leave that church or what did you do? I am struggling.
  • Paul - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    yes, we left the church to find a new one. Adam is right, we can't let a few represent the whole. I am still looking for a "new" church, my faith in Christ Jesus remains and I believe we will find that church soon. KEEP LOOKING.
  • Randy Blair - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    To all who commented on this question and are making reference to Psalm 11: This Psalm has nothing pertaining to a church or problems within an assembly, it's David's personal testimony and struggle with fully trusting God, and how he overcame that fear and temptation of unbelief. People operating in the flesh will hurt others, sometimes accidently. Seek God for healing forgive them at all cost
  • Eileen - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 4 years ago
    I agree. It was the Pastor who hurt me and snubbed me, but I went to church Sunday and he came to speak to me saying nothing significant. Tears came to my eyes, but I forgave him in my heart. He is a good pastor despite his demeanor and I enjoy his sermons so we will continue with our current church. Thanks for all of your posts.



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