Bible Discussion Thread

The Bible reads, Christ will come and gather his Church. Those that have passed will be caught up in the air. Does the Bible tell us for certain that no one is in Heaven at present, but Christ. The thief on the cross was told that he would be in Heaven with Jesus that day. Luke tells us that the rich man asked for a drop of water while in Hell. Are the dead sleeping, in Heaven, or Hell now?

Hi Kaye, that's a good question. It isn't a salvation issue, but just one of speculating future events that is interesting and is ok that people have a different opinion, because it doesn't seem 100 clear. My personal view is that the dead are in a state of 'sleep' to where 1,000 years could pass before Jesus returns and will seem like a second. I don't believe they're in heaven. The guy beside Jesus was a special circumstance, in my opinion. So, people at funerals who say they're in a better place, I don't believe, as judgment hasn't happened yet.

Where does this Scripture say we, and they are? "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant...."