Bible Discussion Thread

Verse 9~Jesus did not just want people to hear his words, but he wanted people to act on them.

If it is possible, I'll tell you when I get there :). (Hoping, that is if I make it). Learning and still learning. I believe that is has become simple to say if you believe in Jesus and believe He died for your sins one is forgiven (don't be mistaken, that is true). Paul, one of His messenger's also wrote that he died daily to gain Jesus. Rebuking his *what he believed was true, or his deception* way of living for Him.

Yes it reads deception and not perception.

Some to think about. May God bless many to have eyes to see that they may perceive and a heart to understand

God bless:-)

(Continuing comment). So if he was 'deceived' by all this, then the whole Gospel account is false, i.e. Christ didn't die for our sins, didn't arise, didn't ascend, didn't send us His Spirit & He isn't at God's RH interceding for us. All false teaching based on NOT Paul's deception/perception, but on Satan's lies & deception to the world to keep them in darkness & hid from the Truth. Please also read 1 Jn 5, partic. noting v13: we may be certain of eternal life.

To Javier. I respond to your post & not to the original, which is too old. To first clarify: 1 Cor 15:30,31 shows Paul speaking of his (& other apostles) continual persecution & facing death for the testimony of Christ; NOT to gain favour (or as you maybe thinking: progress to complete salvation). And all this in context of the previous verses: on the fact of resurrection; that if resurrection was not a certainty for him (& to all who believe), they why should he (Paul) allow suffering to be his daily portion; he could 'eat, drink & be merry'. (See following comment).