"SICK" in Bible Discussions

 
  • Why is it so easy to sin and not so easy to follow what you know is the right path? It's been a road I've travel so many years. " I'm sick and tired of being " sick and tired "
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 1:11
    Donna, my understanding is that Adam & Eve had natural skin just as we have (the epidermis, dermis & hypodermis), yet prior to their downfall into sin, that skin, as all their organs, would have never corrupted to bring on sickness, disease or death.

    With the inception of sin into their lives, their conviction of it, & subsequent attempt to hide from God, showed that that sin also brought the sense of bodily shame, which they never had before. The eyes & minds of those once pure & holy were now subject to the effects of sin, & one of those effects was the sense of shame & need for covering. They initially used fig leaves for covering but the Lord gave them something more durable by way of animal skins. And this in the larger picture showed them that animals could now also be killed, whether for their skin/fur value or later on, in sacrifice & for food.
  • Alex on Romans 7
    Plz do not be upset about this post its all truth. David was on his roof top when he took bathsheba,she was bathin, But she had a previous husband. Uriah. Christ had already ascended when he took the Church she was bathin in H.G. baptism,But she had a previous husband which was the LAW .Bathsheba had to marry another even David she was dead to Uriah by the body of David, Paul said you are dead to the Law OUR 1ST Husband by the body of Christ that you should be Married to another even Christ . Romans 7 v 4. Bathsheba was barren under Uriah but she was fruitful under David but the 1st Child was sick and died in its infancy,The early Church was fruitful under Christ Jesus ,their 1st Child was Christianity but the Child was sick and died in its infancy there is no more original CHRISTIANITY. Micah said he wd give them up til she that is in travail has given birth ( the woman in Revelation 12 ) giving birth to the Children of the Kingdom,remember Jesus said the good seed are the CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM and Jesus is the father of the children of the Kingdom simply b/c of his good seed the Word. The Kingdom did not come with the early CHURCH But ya see its comes with the WOMAN WITH CHILD unless ya receive the Kingdom as a lil Child etc. Revelation 12 v 10. David put away Uriah with his own words th law. Paul said you are dead to the law by the body of CHRIST THAT YOU SHOULD BE MARRIED TO ANOTHER even CHRIST JESUS AND BRING FORTH FRUIT UNTO GOD, WHICH IS THE H.G. The FATHER said he wd make a new covenant with the house of Israel Not according to the covenant i made with their fathers. A marriage is a covenant we must be married to Christ,And bring forth fruit unto God The H.G . Bathsheba had to travail a 2 nd time to get Solomon which means comforter, The CHURCH WILL HAVE TO TRAVAIL A 2 ND TIME, The 1st child was sick and died in its infancy Christianity. My lil Children of whom i travail in birth AGAIN til Christ is formed in you WHICH IS THE Kingdom, My works shall ye do n Greater.
  • The Healing of the Nations Commentary - in Reply on Isaiah 1
    Revelation 22:2

    In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

    >>Wesley's Notes for Revelation 22:2

    In the midst of the street - Here is the paradise of God, mentioned: Revelation 2:7, Is the tree of life - Not one tree only, but many. Every month - That is, in inexpressible abundance. The variety, likewise, as well as the abundance of the fruits of the Spirit, may be intimated thereby. And the leaves are for the healing of the nations - For the continuing their health, not the restoring it; for no sickness is there.

    >>People's Bible Notes for Revelation 22:2

    In the midst of its street. In the Revised Version this is attached to Revelation 22:1. It is the river of life that runs in the street. On each side of the river, watered by it, stands the tree of life . . . yielded her fruit every month. The thought is that it is always fruitful, not limited to certain seasons of fruit bearing. The leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. We are not to conclude that there were diseases to be healed, but that in the city were the means which banished disease and death." (Genesis 2:10). Here there is a river, "clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb" (Revelation 22:1) There was a tree of life in Paradise. In the New Jerusalem, on either side of the river stands the tree of life bearing twelve manner of fruits, or rather fruit twelve times a year, every month. The river and the tree are symbols of the life bestowed by the grace of God. The river flows from the throne of God and the Lamb; from the fountain whence life and immortality come. Everything about the tree is healthful. Even the leaves are for the healing of the nations. There is a book, a river and a tree of life. Christ is the life, and all refer in some way to Christ.

    M.
  • Church Ministry - in Reply on 2 Peter 1:20
    1 Corinthians 14 probably has that scripture. And you can see Paul teach on what that manifestation is about; how it was used in Church; or not used.

    It's better to prophesy with understanding of what you are speaking.

    In some churches I've attended: these kind of meetings were done at evening during the week. People would come together to Pray for the church, intercede; pray for healing of sick members. Some would very quietly pray in tongues. It was very orderly.

    Sunday services were more about corporate teaching, preaching; prayer for the sick, those who wanted to be born again.

    Sometimes on a Friday night the spiritual warriors would get together and beat up on the devil and his attacks against the members. The HolySpirit will give you the names of the demons. Some people have the Gift of speaking in tongues: which is totally different from "prayer language".

    Again it was done in order.

    The Pastor, and his staff, was present at all the meetings.

    There was street evangelism, and it sure helps to have a church praying and covering you in prayer: that you would find the people who were being drawn by the Holy Spirit.

    Church doesn't have to ever be boring.

    Mishael
  • The Godhead Scriptures LET US - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Romans 1:20

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    Colossians 2:9

    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    The Godhead speaking to each other, in Scripture:

    Genesis 1:26, Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7

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    John 5:7, Book of John 10:30

    Acts 17:27-30

    The Godhead represents The Father, The Son of God, the Holy Spirit.

    Comment: many people argue on this and this is a case of: Let God be true and every man a liar. Don't twist scriptures to validate your theories.

    Jesus left heaven to come to earth and His name was the Son of man: fully God and fully human. He set aside his power to begin life as a baby, child and at age 30 he began his mission: to teach, make disciples, heal the sick, cleanse the leper's, cast out demons, doing good.

    He was put on trial for blasphemy: saying he and His Father are ONE. He was judged and ordered to be crucified. He even saved one of the thieves he was crucified next to. Buried 3 days and then He walked out of the tomb! Many people went on record having seen him walking around after resurrection. It's recorded in the Bible and human history books. His ascension back into heaven was eye witnessed. Later, Jesus knocked Paul off his horse, blinded him but other people there HEARD an audible voice speak to Paul. It was Jesus!

    Flash back to Pentecost: the Holy Spirit of God appears in the Upper Room as a roaring Wind and everyone receives His Baptism! It spills out into the street and everyone is hearing their own languages spoken! Many people were saved that day. He is spirit, so he is invisible; but unmistakably present in our world. He reveals Jesus to common people every day.

    Life is EXCITING! Why would anyone turn down so great a salvation? Copy this down & preach it to family and friends.

    Stop procrastinating!

    M.
  • Claire - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Hi Drama,

    Thank you for your reply. It says in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. I know God/Jesus wants fellowship with us, Christians struggle & God works all things for good. When you say that you feel God in my spirit, Is it like a voice coming from within your chest ? I experienced that once, but when I told my pastor & he told me to just ignore it & now I feel like I'm going crazy. I know God knows our heart & if we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins & cleanse us from all unrighteousness, but Psalms 66:18 says - If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear [me] and Isaiah 59:2 says - But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid [his] face from you, that he will not hear. I am struggling with unforgiveness, so I don't think that God hears me. The church I go to all read the KJV Bible, but I don't always agree with the pastors interpretation of it & they don't believe that the spiritual gifts are for everyone & say that they were only for the disciples & that if we all have the gifts then we should all be able to walk on water & heal the sick. Mark 16.17-18 says - And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Nobody speaks in tongues at this church, but a lot did at my old church.

    Thank you for your words of comfort & encouragement. P.s does anyone ever feel their body vibrating ? I've felt this a few times, but can't find a reasonable explanation for it. I feel like I'm on crazy pills sometimes.

    God bless you & your family.

    Kind Regards

    Claire
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 12
    David, you've given some great Scriptures about sickness, prayer & healing for the believer. I can't fault the Truth therein & its reality. The problem arises with the understanding of the sanctifying work of the Spirit. We've discussed this at length & I do understand your position on this, but I've yet to clearly see that the Spirit's Work in the believer includes the removal of sin & the sin nature.

    As well, I don't share your belief that sin is only a spiritual illness. That sin, which finds its home in the carnal nature in man, has as its products, sickness, disease & death. No sin nature = no sin, sickness or death. But I stop here as we've beaten this matter to death though it has served to show me how other believers regard scriptural Truths. Thank you for your time, David, you are one of the few who have stayed the distance.
  • David W Black - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Chris, A few things to consider about salvation and sanctification, and how these do create a person that is fully sinless: remember this is a person who repented to be saved and later got carnality removed by the power of God. Sin is a spiritual illness not a physical one. Afflictions and illness do happen to saints like myself. Being physically sick is not a sin, and will happen to every one of us.

    Psalms 34:19 "Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all."

    I Peter 5:9 "Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world."

    James 5:13-16 "Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

    Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

    And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

    Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

    Here, we have a few examples of afflictions mentioned. Sickness can occur in saved or unsaved, the difference is those that are saved can call on God to heal them through faith. See the progression in this passage in James? Vs 13 Afflicted? Let him pray. Vs 14 then call for the elders, as in the pastor of your local congregation to pray for you after anointing with oil. 15 Something to keep in mind is that the word sin, as defined in Webster's dictionary, can be a fault, there are sins against God or against fellow man. Salvation is to remedy that sin committed against God only. This doesn't correct your faults, or these trespasses, transgressions, sins against another person. Matthew 6th forgive trespasses.

    Think of the 1 lying in the bed Jesus healed of sin and illness, Mark 2. Jesus healed and saved him. 2 separate miracles.
  • Edwin L Muir on Isaiah 14
    Thank You ALL :-).Unthankful Lucifer} And we the abiding, good and faithful, inherit all he coveted for in Ephesians 2:6,Psalms 91:1 & 14,15,16. KJV

    I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Jude 20 so very important to treasure folks, and neglect not. Difference between Spirit and GHOST / and communion of, and fellowship with/ believe 131 times and believeth continuous, 39 times,

    Proverbs 14:15 The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. Berean Acts 17:11 kjv. So satan has largely ensnared the the church into less true intimacy and flow of revelation is weakened, and now told to bow ones head in prayer then suggests we are approaching notfessed up and sanctified, so gifted boldness of gifted faith is gone misleading millions of the immature into confusion and hands + head down, powerlessness. Romans 1:4. Feigning Christianity, Popal biased Westcott and Hort have strewn their tare seeds of division, no greater hoax (other than declaring later versions are better than the KJVs scary consistency & excellence in placement of spirit & Ghost, ye or you, believe or believeth etc,etc ( Phillippians 1:9,10,11) of the tried and true KJV), has scarce been pulled off since Rome calling itself 1st Christian Church, and how sick ! is that. But our gracious *FATHER GOD* lets the seeker know the seasons by calling the 666 Vactool Luciferase. Come let us adore *HIM* *CHRIST JESUS Our Magnanimous (LORD* and ineffable *SAVIOUR* Psalms 66:2 Sing forth the honor of his name: make his praise glorious.

    Amen and Amen, *JAH* is *HIS* Name, the perfect Dad.*JESUS* *DADS* Brightness. Ordinances such as Galations 6:6 and Hebrews 3:13 are not shared meat in our fellowship. But now, since that my last demon, frustration was renounced. And settling Ephesians 2:6 aligns with Psalms 91:1 + 14,15,16. The challenge of obedience in all things must be.*G* B U who follow on eagerly Jude 20.
  • Jerry Hendrix on 1 Corinthians 11:30
    "Not discerning the Lord's body"not understanding his body was given for phsycal

    healing.Resulting in many being sick and some dead.

    Two verses on judging, chasning, and condemning and two verses on how to avoid

    Them. These verses have nothing to do with the Lord's supper observance and all to

    do with the love feast that happens before the Lord's supper. Note vs. 34 repeats part

    Of vs.22..'

    His blood was given for our redemption his body in part for our physical bodies.

    By His stripes we are healed spiritually and physicaly..
  • Mishael on Proverbs 6:19
    Babies born alive after attempted abortions have been left to die. It's sickening and must be stopped.

    We've seen laws considered or passed in New York and Virginia that could allow infanticide. Congress has refused to require lifesaving protection be provided to babies who have actually been born.

    But the President recently signed an Executive order in an effort to change all of this. It's a massive step in the right direction for life. As President Trump said, he was "signing the born alive Executive order to assure that all precious babies born alive, no matter their circumstances, receive the medical care that they deserve. This is our sacrosanct moral duty."

    It is absolutely our moral duty, and something for which we at the ACLJ have been aggressively fighting for years.

    Every baby deserves a chance at life. Every baby deserves medical care and legal protections. But the abortion lobby is doing everything it can to block these protections.

    We're fighting to protect babies - born and unborn. But we need you to take action with us.

    ACLJ to sign the Petition
  • What39s Next in Heaven - in Reply on Revelation 16
    If you believe and do what is in John Chapter 3. Then, YOU MUST follow Jesus Christ.

    If we plan on going to heaven, we first need to learn about WHO we are following. We're going to be living with Him. It makes sense to fully investigate. We do that by reading the Gospel books: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. See what Jesus says, what he does;

    What he likes, loves, mercy, justice, good will towards simple people like you and me.

    Dislikes: hypocrites, Nicolaitans like Pharisees that are soft on sin and enforce obedience to their rules, not Gods.

    We have to read the Bible which means, every day. Pray and ask Him to bless your food and all that concerns you. Learn to become sensitive to times when satan is sniffing around for ways to tempt you. Jesus told him "get thee behind me! You shall not tempt the Lord your God!"

    Satan is going to hell, so let's steer clear of him.

    Jesus is The Way, the Truth and the Life. He's greater and bigger than anything the Worldly world or Satan has to throw at us.

    Don't let Nicolaitans tie you down or challenge YOUR faith in Jesus. If you follow what is in the Bible you will always be on the narrow path to victory and eternal life. Plus you receive the Holy Spirit and He will teach you all mysteries if you ask Him. If you get sick or your car breaks down on the freeway, you can ask for angelic assistance to keep you safe.

    Ok I'm kinda hoping for a bowling alley but I'll settle for the Tree of Life. Can't wait to get to Heaven and meet some of the people in Hebrews chapter 11.

    Like it or not; this world that everyone is trying to save, is going to be remodeled to remove everything BAD that mankind did to it. Clean air, crystal clear water, No GMO's, no crime. Jesus is the Light of Heaven.

    Everything I just said is in the Bible. (Except the bowling alley).

    We are all followers of Jesus..so let's learn NOW, to whom we belong to and what's next? It's going to be good.

    Mishael
  • Sandra - in Reply on Revelation 16
    Our dog, Shadow, a standard huge full bred pomeranian, given to a paraplegic as a service dog in a nursing home used to listen to me reading The Hy Bible! I would say praise Tbe Lord Shadow in The Holy Name of Jesus Christ! He would turn over on his back and put all four paws up to GOD! Many personal stories of prayer time with that dog, Shadow! Especially, on tbe topic of animal testimonies in The Holy Bible. Shadow took it all seriously! He did his part to protect us using GOD stuff too! Shadow listened and obeyed GOD to even his ministry as a Service Dog for a paraplegic and so many elderly and sick in nursing homes. He lives with Them! Praising GOD still in battle against evil for Them too!
  • The Beast The Mark The Harvest on Daniel 1
    Revelation 14:9

    And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his MARK in his FOREHEAD OR IN HIS HAND.

    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the WRATH OF GOD, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb [JESUS].

    11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the MARK of his name. [666]

    Wesley's Notes for Revelation 14:10

    14:10
    He shall drink - With Babylon, #Revelation 16:19|. And shall be tormented - With the beast, #Revelation 20:10|. In all the scripture there is not another so terrible threatening as this. And God by this greater fear arms his servants against the fear of the beast. The wrath of God, which is poured unmixed without any mixture of mercy; without hope. Into the cup of his indignation - And is no real anger implied in all this? Anger that these refused to receive Jesus as Lord.

    Revelation 14:14 [Moment of the Rapture]

    And I looked, and BEHOLD A WHITE CLOUD, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man [JESUS], having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

    Commentary:

    People's Bible Notes for Revelation 14:14

    Upon the cloud [one] sat like the Son of Man. Jesus has himself said that the Son of man shall be seen coming upon the clouds of heaven. Here John sees the Son of Man sitting upon a white cloud. The Savior said that his coming shall be with great power and glory (Matthew 24:30). John now sees upon the head of the Son of man a golden crown. The Savior said that he will send his angels to gather the elect (Matthew 24:31). John hears an angel bid him who sat upon the cloud, to reap the earth, for its harvest was ripe.

    Mishael =This is why we pray to the LORD of the Harvest.
  • Mishael on Ephesians 2
    To say Christian is not worthy to have a spot as a Supreme Court Judge is really a test of tolerance. They've already ruled we can't sing inside a church. People have been singing in their cars in the church parking lots. Some cities are stricter. The President went to Church a week ago, and now we have to go through the income tax thing again :/

    Everybody's life matters; even Jesus's Life Matters, and His Church. I'm going to sign that Petition! I want to vote for a professing Christian. My grandkid goes to a Christian school. The only power we have is prayer and our vote. I'm gonna use mine.

    Come Lord Jesus!

    Article today:

    "The Left has declared an all-out war on the Constitution, the Supreme Court, life, and the Christian faith.

    The President's nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett marks a historic shift on the Supreme Court for generations. She could help determine the fate of abortion, religious liberty, and so many other critical issues.

    Judge Barrett is an exceptionally qualified constitutional conservative nominee to the Supreme Court. Her credentials are impeccable. She must be confirmed.

    But the Left is targeting her for her Christian faith and for adopting two children from Haiti. It's SICK.

    We will see personal attacks unlike ever before. They could be even worse than the Kavanaugh hearings. Multiple radical Left Senators already harassed Judge Barrett for her "religious beliefs" as a Christian, astoundingly condemning, "The dogma lives loudly within you."

    Attacking Judge Barrett's faith is not only unacceptable, it's a violation of the Constitution which directly prohibits this: "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office."

    The attack on her faith is an attack on YOUR FAITH. This will be the fight of a lifetime." Petition on ACLJ website.
  • Nathen Mize on Matthew 5:31
    I'm 43 I got married young at around 20 my wife then and I had 2 kids but through my lack of maturity and own self indulgence I left and a few years later following a sickness and during my sickness from drug induced psychosis was carted to my ex wife's divorce lawyers I office and told under duress to just sign all the papers even though all I wanted was to try again. My kids now are grown and sh we s engaged to another man biblically can I remarry another woman and if so does she have to never have been married?t
  • Freddieo on Mark 2
    How do I know that Christ has received me into his kingdom? Has their been some kind of miracle in my life to prove it? Should I experience a miracle or perhaps maybe, I have already experienced a miracle, and not aware of it. Scripture clearly says that Jesus cast out devils and healed the sick! Jesus also said an evil and adulterous people seeks after a sign and no sign shall be given? Not unlike me, the first miracle you shall receive is the miracle that happens the minute you hear and receive Christ words! When we except Christ, truly we are born again! A new life that begins, we hear differently, we see differently, our lives begin in a different direction. The miracle is the LOVE we find in God the Father given to us through Jesus Christ! This is the miracle! The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit." Being born again is truly a miracle that is from above!
  • Spike4187 - in Reply on 2 Samuel 1
    I have to ask these questions because I wonder, am I the only one out there that thinks these things? I mean, I was 15 when I came to know Christ in this one foster home where the people who took me in temporarily, called themselves Christians. Out of all the families I had lived with, this was the most peaceful and loving home I had ever experienced. Back then, I believed in the God of the Bible, but I did not know of the significance of Jesus. I had no understanding of who he actually is. The foster mom taught me and explained it to me as she showed me the Bible. Suddenly it was like a light came on and I knew. I knew I needed him to save me. I prayed with her and I became converted. My whole attitude towards the world changed. I no longer hated the world and wanted to destroy all that I saw as I ran around in the night creating mischief. It totally changed my outlook. Of course I was only there temporarily until they could place me in a larger youth home. After I left them I read my Bible daily, but as time wore on, the fights and the violence at this youth home and no contact with people who knew the "truth" I started to become what I was; however, I could not ignore the truth! I became miserable and when I finally left that youth home and no longer a ward of the court, I started to attend church, I am told "if you are not speaking in tongues you are not saved", turn on the TV preachers and they are speaking in tongues and healing the sick, etc and then I would wonder if there is something wrong with me because I don't. My problem then was reading my Bible as a study, not just reading. Not seeking to find out the meaning of what the text was saying. Just listening to people on TV or preachers who have not really been trained to teach. I was so confused because my gut told me something is not right. Also in the back of my mind is the first warning from Jesus was to beware of deception. I mean who am i to doubt that preacher on TV?
  • William Joseph Byers on Revelation 21:4
    I don't want to upset any of you but from what I am reading in the comments alot of you are not getting it yet. I want to help Because I want very few tears to be streaming from my eyes that the lord will wipe away. Let me start with the judgement day. That great and terrible day! We all will be standing in like a court room but serprated, Goats from the sheep. You know your standing infront of the judge/God. You know what you did in your life. Youll see everyone you could have lead to the lord, but for some selfish reason like embarrassment or something you didnt, You failed to take your children to church, or just something like you didnt have the time. Well your standing there in the sheep side, the side that is going to heavan. You look over to your child or kids as you both are crying leaning forward crying for each other. Why daddy, whay mommy didnt you help me get to heaven??? as the tears fall from your eyes. This would be a very sickening time. You see your child condemned to hell forever and as you see this your enduring the most unimaginable. But its to late to do anything. I cant imagine this happening to anyone, its way to horrible. Dont be afaid to speak up in a crowd. Dont stop trying, On that great and terrible day you will see your loved ones in heavin rejoicing with you forever and ever. Take your friends, brothers, sisters, strangers and children with you to be with Jesus Christ forever and ever amen.
  • Learn Spiritual Warfare Ephesians 6 on Romans 1:32
    Matthew 12

    43

    When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

    44

    Then he saith, I will return into my house (your body) from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it EMPTY, swept, and garnished.

    45

    Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

    Ephesians 6

    If we do not fill our spiritual house, with the Bible; we will have spiritual warfare. Which as you see in Ephesians 6, "they" are invisible. They don't want to wander around without bodies. The unsaved, the wicked or the unlearned of the wisdom of the Bible, can be attacked.

    "They are identified by their Fruit: hindering, harassing, sicknesses, depression, violence, sexual impurities, cursing, occult fascinations, hatred of Jesus, or antichrist spirits.

    We must be filled with the Holy Spirit. You must rely on the victory of Jesus over the devil. We must understand the power of Jesus's Blood atonement for sin.

    Sometimes I wonder why we argue about what day is Sabbath on; Who killed Cain; which Bible Version to read....

    We need to be learning what our Authority in Jesus Name is. Authority of the believer over demonic beings; how to bind them and cast them out. How to pray for the sick and those oppressed by Satan and his agents of suffering. How to keep our families covered in prayer.

    Take a good look at the madness of the world we're living in. Do you see the fruits now?

    1 Peter 5:8

    Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

    Mishael
  • Andy G van den Berg on Romans 12:7
    To STANJETT

    Reviewing all your vain 'Rhetoric' (Matthew 15:9), it is obvious that your mind has been corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Timothy 1:3; 4:1; Hebr. 13:9; 2 Peter 3:17; Jude 4).

    Please study who the 'Holy Ghost' is and what it means to sin against the 'Holy Ghost' (Mark 3:29; Luke 12:10).

    Matthew 9:12. They (the believers) that be whole need not a physician (Christ), but they that are sick (sinners). Trust us; the large majority of people on this website are 'not well'.

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 26
    As a rule, I don't comment on any Passover discussions. I believe Jesus is the Son of Man and he doesn't make mistakes. I leave it at that.

    What I commented on, is scriptures show that Jesus was recorded as healing the sick and lame on Sabbath at times, which caused anger from the Pharisees & Sadducees.

    I have no more comment on this.
  • Geoff - in Reply on Luke 5
    Dorothy, I'm thinking about your question...and thousands of years ago medicine was super simple. You can look up what are the humors of medicine. It's four colors of fluid that told what a person had. That's how they identified disease. So, no microscopes or labwork. If, you go back and read the Old Testament, about leprosy and how a person was to leave the camp and then be inspected by the Priest, it seems to be that medicine and faith and sin were all together. So, like barbers that cut our hair now, a hundred or so years ago, they were the dentist and did a whole multitude of services. In JOB, when he's stricken, his friends visit and ask what sins did he commit. He kept saying none. But, they said why else would he be stricken with the sufferings he did. In the New Testament, the man that was born blind, and was healed, the disciples asked who had sinned, him or his parents. Jesus said neither, he was born blind so God could be glorified. He was born blind so Jesus would be able to so his healing ability. Like that was the blind man's purpose. So, I'm suggesting, that in the Old Testament if a person was sick, it was believed they had sinned. So, they had to leave the camp for a week until they were clean again. Or, in some cases be unclean till evening, depending on what was done. The Priest was the healer by directing the different sacrifices. If, you were a non-believer you were kicked out of the temple. Which you see examples of in the New Testament. Jesus, had to teach and show a whole new way of thought. That's what is meant by new cloth and old cloth and new wine into old wine bottles. The Leviathan and Behemoth in JOB explained by God, tells how things (sickensses) happen, it's not because of sin as the Jewish Priest seem to teach. Non-believers were kicked out of camp, or killed. Like when Moses came down from Mt Sinai and the people had the golden calf and were worshipping that.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Luke 12:10
    To FRED SCANLAN

    Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all (2 Corinthians 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

    When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

    Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

    CHASTENING

    Deuteronomy 8:5

    Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

    Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

    Proverbs 3:11

    Isaiah 26:16

    1
    Cor. 11:32

    Hebrews 12:5,6

    James 1:12

    1 Peter 1:7

    Revelation 3:15-21

    AFFLICTIONS

    Psalms 34:19; 132:1

    Isaiah 48:10

    Acts 7:10; 20:23

    2
    Cor. 6:4

    Colossians 1:24

    1
    Thess 3:3

    Hebrews 12:5-12

    Revelation 3:18

    SICKNESS AND HEALING

    Exodus 15:26

    Psalms 6:2

    Isaiah 30:26

    Jeremiah 30:17

    Ezekiel 34:16

    Hosea 6:1

    Malachi 4:2

    Matthew 10:8

    Mark 2:17

    Luke 5:31

    James 5:15

    1
    Peter 2:24

    Revelation 22:2

    RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



    2 Chr. 16:12,13

    Job 13:4

    Psalms 34:19; 108:12

    Isaiah 30:1-3

    Jeremiah 17:5-7,14

    Hosea 5:13

    Mark 5:25-29

    Luke 8:43

    MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

    Job 5:18; 23:10

    Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

    Isaiah 48:10

    Jeremiah 31:18

    Hosea 5:15; 6:1

    Romans 8:17

    2
    Cor. 4:17

    Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

    1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

    Rev. 3:19

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Michelle on Romans 12:7
    Blessed morning Teboho

    It was blessed to be under both we were taught by the teacher when she preached,and you will find yourself by the altar during his preaching . You can tell the difference .........The difference to my understanding is teaching deals with educating ,teaching the word of God in depth to be understood so we can grow to become righteous Christians.



    Ministering is touching on areas that affects us daily and convicting sinners backsliders and backsliders

    at heart giving the answers from GOD'S word ( not the world's system) that will bring breakthrough to set free ,to turn hearts to GOD comfort, peace and hope ,

    ministering to the needs of people

    Ministering is like giving medication to the sick
  • The Demonic - in Reply on Matthew 26
    That's because satan survived the flood. However, his "angel" followers drowned. That's when they became demons. No longer having bodies the seek bodies: in pigs, other animals or, in wicked human beings.

    They can't get inside of a Christian unless they are apostate: have spurned Christ to follow the world. People in satanic religions routinely allow demons access to their bodies. With a body, the demons can hurt, kill, cause accidents, sickness, drug and alcohol dependence. I guess you could say wicked people are weak.

    Christians who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit of God (Paul said our bodies are the Temple of God)...cannot be invaded by demons.

    That's why we are told to keep our human bodies swept of idols and garnished with the Word that we read in our Bibles. They know we can cast them away with some

    IT IS WRITTEN + a Bible scripture stored in your heart. That's your sword of the Spirit !

    :)
  • WHY EVIL INVADES HUMAN BODIES on Psalms 72
    Matthew 12: (red letters)

    43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

    44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.

    45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

    Jesus was teaching this. Where it says spirits; these are the evil spirits; or Demons. The demon of fear brings

    tormenting demons along with him. A demon of Bondage captures people with addictions, like drugs, alcohol, sexual addictions like porn; the demon of Infirmity will wear a person down till they are very sick with all manner of diseases.

    There are many names for them. I find it much easier to identify the with what Jesus taught about FRUITS. Witchcraft, sorcery, murder, stealing. Sometimes FAMILIAR spirits follow families and inflict old family curses on them: like for women who cannot bear children. Curses can be lifted with study to get information, and then prayer.

    Rebellion is as the sin of Witchcraft. If your teenager is violent and profane: you know his fruit.

    The prayer of faith will heal the sick; bind and cast out the demons to go into outer darkness and dry hot places.

    Demons are invisible, but they can manifest frightening scary incidents. If you read horoscopes instead of the Bible "to get a word for the day", you invite occult demons into the house. Phone psychics, Quiga board games, etc. Get rid of all idols so God can bless you!

    That's why Jesus said to GARNISH you/your House. You must have Bible inside of you! If you can quote scriptures like the Son of God...you can make demons leave. Put on the Armor that Jesus paid for with his Blood, and plead the Blood over the entire home.

    Ephesians 6.

    Mishael
  • GTMok - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Good day Dan,

    Just to add to your comment, I also believe we aught to keep the seventh day holy, however when there is an opportunity to help someone in dire need on the Sabbath, we have to do so. After all, didn't the blind man end up believing in God for the good work Jesus did to him on the Sabbath (John 9)? Whatever ye do, do it to the glory of God, 1 Corinthians 10:31.

    At the end of the day we should be able to hear these words from our Redeemer, Matthew 25:31-40. Whether the good works were done on Sabbath, or any other day, for as long as the praise and worship of the beneficiaries are directed to God - that is all we can ever ask for.

    Matthew 25:

    31
    When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

    32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

    33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

    34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

    36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

    37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

    38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

    39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

    40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
  • Pharisees Sadducees in the Church - in Reply on Psalms 72
    In the Gospels, read slowly and you will see that Jesus taught on the sabbath; healed the sick, infirmed , demon possessed/ oppressed, cleansed lepers.

    Church can be an actual Church, radio ministry, tv ministry, Youtube ministry, etc.

    Shut in seniors are not condemned for not attending a church and giving their tithe there. You tithe to the ministry that feeds your soul & spirit, that prays for you corporately, calls you at home. Some churches even have home visitation ministry!

    If you dispute that; go have a good look at

    Matthew 26:31-46 and

    Messages to the Churches: beginning in Revelation chapter 2

    I think these matters are going to be reviewed at the Bema Seat (Judgment) of Jesus Christ. Rewards will be given and rewards will be lost, to BELIEVERS.


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