"SAVED" in Bible Discussions

 
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 6:11
    Neither. I understand that the crucifixion & resurrection of Jesus was for the forgiveness of our past sins & removal of them that were held to our account. Hebrews 10:16,17: "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more." And, Romans 4:25: "Who (Jesus) was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification." Our sins placed on Jesus at the Cross have been taken away, no longer imputed to us & we remain justified (i.e. to be declared not guilty, absolved, acquitted) from any further recourse or punishment. When God looks at us, He sees us IN Christ & clothed in His Righteousness (& not our own which could only condemn us).

    Salvation, I believe is a once only event that was accomplished at the Cross & received through full faith in that Work. It can't be undone or re-given: we're either saved or not, or else, we show that we despise this great Work & count it of little worth. What you wrote, "that Salvation is a process of maturing in the spirit of Christ", I see that as the ongoing filling Work of the Spirit, as we continue to empty ourselves of that which hinders His Work. And when we do, He reveals to us more of Jesus, endeavouring to make us more like Him in every way. (Ephesians 3:19, 5:18).
  • Rod - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Connie, No apology necessary, I've been on this site for only a matter of a few short months myself, and yes I agree that the comments are varied in nature, but most I believe are meant to help us on our faith journey, I know it has helped me. If I may ask one question, do you believe that the narrow road to our salvation leads to the cross, and the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Not sure if you have ever heard of Billy Graham, he passed away a bit ago, but his sermons are on you tube and some of his sermons are about the real meaning of the cross, and the importance of it.

    Have a great day,

    John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

    Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"

    "Not of works, lest any man should boast."
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Here is what God says you must believe to be saved (born again) during the Age of Grace. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" This is Paul's Gospel, and the Lord Jesus Christ sent Paul to preach to the Gentiles.
  • Steve Anderson - in Reply on Romans 6:11
    We are saved from our past sins,,,, we are being saved from our present sins and if we endure our own cross and overcome we shall be saved....PRAISE GOD.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on 1 Peter 5
    Nicholas L Langas,

    "felt gods love and power In my life"

    As with so many today there is a great attachment to feelings, however, God's love goes well beyond emotion and is a commitment to you. Your commitment to him is a return to him of some of that love. You understand our love for him pales in comparison to his love for us, nevertheless, returning love pleases him in a way that is unique to each person that is in that relationship with him.

    I quit smoking years before becoming saved, and was truely shocked at my first attempt when I had the physical cravings filling my thoughts constantly. I was committed to quitting and indeed over time the cravings were much more manageable, till some time later, that habit died. As a newborn Christian you have need to feed that new person and there is nothing better than God's word. Spend time with God in prayer/discussion and your relationship will grow. A plan for your life is quite simple, feed the new person you've become in Christ and starve the old person of things that draw you away from God. I have learned and you will also, that it is indeed true that " Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." 1Corinthians 2:9, an abundant life, and "Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore." Psalms 16:11. I hope/expect your desire to get closer to God will extend/last unto evermore, as will happen with all believers.
  • Ezekiel - in Reply on Romans 2
    Sister Mary, good question. I appreciate somewhat lengthy 'general or typical response' from brother Chris. But I'll give you specific theological response.

    When you received Christ as your personal saviour, you also received the other two members of Trinity (1 John 5:7), Holy Ghost and GOD the Father, and you are now born again (Joh 3:3). You are a baby spiritually in the beginning when you are just saved recently. You can't feel or experience HIM right away but you need to grow spiritually to experience a new spiritual birth. Naturally everybody is born with devil spirit simply because we inherited Adam's sin and therefore we are sinners by birth (Romans 5:12-14).

    A newly born baby does not know what is going on around him until he will grow up physically and mentally, does he? Same analogy with spiritual rebirth. Grow spiritually by reading scripture, praying, listening to preaching, and etc. Then you can feel joy and do not forget to spread gospel to others.

    Some theological consideration. I have many things to say about Holy Ghost but I can't say them all here. Did you know Trinity WORKS and exists as ONE? In other words you can't receive Christ or Spirit independently as I indicated above. I hear truly saved people say that they are uncertain if they received Spirit also. Are you one of them? I'll just list verses for you to understand about Trinity more deeply without going lengthy discussion. Joh 10:30, 6:44, 14:6; 1 John 5:7, 8. Thanks
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Steve Anderson

    "saved by Grace THROUGH FAITH"

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8&9

    You cut short that verse to construe it to your purposes. "and that(the faith)not of yourselves; it is the gift of God"

    Faith in God is a gracious gift of God.

    "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12:2 I believe that if you or I were the author of our faith it will finish badly.

    "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Proverbs 14:12 & 16:25

    Saved is not a condition whereby you are clinging to God, but he with you in his grasp.
  • Chris - in Reply on Galatians 5
    "Faith alone does not secure our salvation WE must have works of the spirit".

    Ephesians 2:8,9, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

    I believe that it is by God's Grace through faith alone in Christ's finished Work that brings us salvation & nothing else. But works that FOLLOW faith, is the proof of the reality of that faith. Once works, or anything else, is added to God's Grace through faith, then it is no longer of Grace, but of works, "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." Romans 11:6.

    If it was only my human faith, without God's Grace that undergirded & provoked me towards salvation, I would be in a pitiful state accounting that my generated faith alone was sufficient. Of ourselves, faith cannot succeed - we need the whole: God's Grace & Faith without any hint of human contribution towards it. But it may be that that was the intent of your statement. Blessings.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Acts 2:31
    Brian,

    Thanks for your reply. As Mild Bill stated, your church tradition does not transcend The Holy Bible. Yes, in your church's opinion, I'm a heretic because I believe, as did Martin Luther, in Sola Scriptura. No church gets to interpret The Scriptures for everyone. The Holy Spirit guides us into The Truth.

    "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."Joh 16:13

    Church traditions over the centuries have resulted in a number of unbiblical practices such as

    prayer to saints and/or Mary,

    the immaculate conception,

    transubstantiation,

    infant baptism,

    indulgences, and

    papal authority,

    none of which can be justified from The Holy Bible.

    Just so you're aware, as a Baptist, I don't believe that baptism saved or will save me, although I was baptized at age 12. By being baptized, I confessed that I had placed my trust in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, The Son of God to be my Savior from sin and death.

    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."Romans 10:9-10

    I'm glad that we can discuss these differences in our beliefs and evaluate the reasons why we believe what we believe. I try very hard, to act consistent with The Bible. Sometimes I fail.
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Jesus sent Paul to the Gentiles, but very few Gentiles believe his gospel to be saved. I'm glad to know some one believes it.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Galatians 5
    "What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."Romans 4:1-5 (KJVA)

    We are JUSTIFIED (DECLARED righteous [we don't BECOME righteous] before God, saved, a ONE TIME EVENT) by FAITH ALONE (no works allowed) in Christ alone.

    We are being SANCTIFIED (A CONTINUING PROCESS). Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. By their fruits ye shall know them. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
  • Brian Downey - in Reply on Acts 2:31
    Thank you SkipVought for your reflections/insights into damnation and redemption. I believe in original sin. That the weight of original sin can only be lifted through baptism, water and spirit, as He explained to Nicodemus and Faith in Christ through the sacraments if available. I don't believe we are all saved, universalism is demonic, Anti-Christ. I say demonic because Universalism implies the Devil and his cohorts could also be saved which we know to be nonesense as spirits know God completely and so once turned would not want to return. Our blessed Lord explicitly states the two destinations a soul will ultimately reside on separation from the body. We are given free will to choose the right path, with God's grace, without which, as He said, there is no hope for man. He most certainly wants all souls to be saved but if that was a given there would be no need for the Incarnation and it would make a mockery of the Jewish faith Upto his arrival. He simply wants what he created to share eternal bliss with the triune Godhead but cannot ignore His own Justice. The church teaches us all to be in sanctifying grace so not to tempt the Lord our God. He came to save His own from eternal damnation.
  • Steve Anderson - in Reply on Galatians 5
    When i read the scripture , it tells me that we are saved by Grace THROUGH FAITH.... WE know that Grace is the Authority that enables us to overcome , we know that Faith is the substance of things HOPED FOR the evidence of things NOT SEEN... James tells us that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.. The scripture tells us that we must have Grace to support our Faith .. Faith alone dose not secure our salvation WE must have works of the spirit We must grow up into Christ . Jesus said i am the Author and the Finisher of your faith.. HE WROTE THE BOOK. HE IS THE FOUNDATION, HE IS THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE, { In your patience posses ye your souls... }
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Charles R Peek,

    "Neither of the two Scripture tell you how to be saved"

    Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, however, you seem insistent on

    distinguishing your preference for 1Corinthians15. Now why is that? Why are

    you insisting a narrow view of what God uses to "save" lost people when God

    has provided so many verses that he uses to lead people to himself through

    his son? It seems to me your focus on this issue is to create a right and

    wrong way on the matter of what to tell lost people. Am I right about that?

    Suppose God chooses to begin leading a person to himself with Amos 4:12?

    Clearly the Lord Jesus left Nicodemus to ponder a second birth, and not

    the sign of Jonah, as he also said would be for Israel. God has never been

    limited to demonstrate grace in a particular age. Rather, it is we who make

    distinctions, for the purpose of distinguishing Gods revealed methods of

    demonstrating his presence in our time period on earth. The whole of God's

    word is for all people to see him as he wills it so. I understand

    dispensationalism to organize a view of Gods history with man, but his

    salvation work is not so limited in his sovereign exercise of gracious love.
  • Steve Anderson - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Is it possible o believe in Vain... if so what are the requirements to believe , I believe that you can believe in Vain , if you do not understand from whom you receive salvation to begin with ... Grace is not a guarantee of salvation you can fall from grace if you justify your inability to rise above sin... and of course you must have had been given the authority too fulfill that vocation. And that authority is the baptism of the holy Ghost, with out instruction, or correction, by the word of God we can never understand the three Phases of salvation ,, IVE BEEN SAVED FROM MY PAST SINS, IM BEING SAVED FROM PRESENT SINS , AND I MUST ENDURE UNTIL THE END TO BE COMPLETELY SAVED. Ask your self this ? what is it that Jesus came to save to begin with ... Body , Soul , or Spirit.. there is only one answer.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Matthew 25:34
    Greetings, Vicki.

    Jesus has been teaching His disciples about the end of this age and what signs were to appear. This discourse is recorded by Matthew in chapters 24 and 25. He told them about these things just before He was betrayed and crucified.

    There are a lot of details about the future that we have not been told. Some of what has been revealed is symbolic and not entirely clear. How these not-so-clear things are interpreted depends on one method of interpretation, where a lot of suppositions are in place before considering what the millennium really is, for instance.

    Some Christians believe that there's no actual 1000 years, that the concept of the millennium is figurative. They are amillenialists.

    Some Christians believe that Christ will return AFTER 1000 year or AFTER a long time where Christianity causes things to get better and better. They are postmillennilists.

    Some Christians believe that Christ will return BEFORE the 1000 year millenium and Christ will rule the earth. Here's where things get even more complicated. Most premilenialists believe that there will be an actual Tribulation of 7 years. So The Second Coming, when Christ comes to the earth, probably to the Mount of Olives where He Ascended to The Father, may a be different event from The Rapture. So The Rapture may be before The Tribulation or sometime during The Tribulation or right after The Tribulation. It all depends on the assumptions you make in your method of interpretation.

    If your head is spinning, don't worry. Whatever you believe, Jesus Christ will return. The dead in Christ will rise. We who are alive and remain will be caught up together to meet them in the air and we will forever be with The Lord.

    The MAIN things are the PLAIN things.

    Whether you are a, post or pre, if your trust is in Jesus and His saving work on the cross, you will be saved.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Acts 2:31
    Greetings, Brian.

    You asked what does Jesus saves us from.

    I'm almost certain that you know many Scriptures like...

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."Romans 6:23

    "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."Joh 3:18

    "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"Hebrews 9:27

    We see that there is judgement and death awaiting those who are not trusting Jesus. So where does that judgement come from?

    "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."Joh 3:36

    "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;"Romans 1:18 (KJVA)

    "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."Romans 5:9-10

    ...and there are many more verses, as I am sure you are aware. The wrath of God is the main and all-encompassing reason we need to be saved.

    Hope this helps.
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    How true , what does it mean to receive the holy ghost ? Is it actually a "GHOST" that comes on you? Faith, an activity that takes place in the heart, that cannot be understood is when Jesus comes into your heart, you become a changed person, the "old man " is no longer who we were! There is thought, that as long as one has this knowledge, this is all one needs to be saved! This thinking is what Jesus spoke against and about. He said, knowing the history is not enough! Just because you are of the seed, does not give you salvation! So ,one could say old things are passed away and all things are new! That in fact these things are the work of the holy spirit!
  • Charles R Peek on Ephesians 2
    Has anyone used 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" as the Gospel to believe to be born again?
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Neither of the two Scripture tell you how to be saved, (born again) John 3:16, or Galatians 5. 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 tell us how to be saved during the age of grace. This is the Apostle Paul's Gospel, given to him by the Lord Jesus Christ to preach to the Gentiles.1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
  • Brett on Galatians 5
    What does it mean to inherit the kingdom of God? John 3:16 gives instructions on how to be saved but Galatians 5 gives different requirements to inherit the kingdom of God. Are they talking about the same salvation or is inheriting the kingdom of God different than salvation?
  • Chris - in Reply on Hebrews 2
    The Hebrews writer is stating that what the Lord Jesus spoke about directly from God & about how men must be saved, this very same message was heard & received by those around Him. So, Jesus' disciples, who became His apostles, were primarily the first messengers of this great Salvation & they conveyed that message to others, the Church being established initially in various nearby countries of Asia Minor, Greece & Italy as well. Then the Church took out the Gospel to reach others.

    As we're unsure who the Hebrews writer was, many believe that it was Paul, whose apostleship was confirmed by the Spirit & accepted (& instructed further no doubt), by the other apostles. So, the "chain" begins with Christ, through His apostles & to the Church, which was predominantly of converted Jews & living either in Palestine or Italy.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    Hey Michael,

    I will do my best to answer your question of "How do you pray in the Holy Ghost" from Jude 1:20. Others may want to give their view on this also.

    In my experience as I have only been saved by the Lord Jesus Christ for just under two years. My life has taken many turns from a power not of my own. Experiencing miracles of healing, repenting from things of this world, and my prayer life that was non existent before being led to the Lord. I will testify that the Holy Spirit has taught me how to pray. As starting out praying I would maybe only say the our Father prayer. The prayer I say now every day takes about one hour and is from my heart. I give all credit to the Holy Ghost expanding my prayer life.

    One other thing is that when I pray I usually don't speak out of my mouth. It is in Spirit.

    I agree with what S Spencer stated on the most excellent gift of the Holy Ghost being love/charity.

    Hope that helps some. God Bless.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Marilyn Taplin,

    " I stand with the remnant. "

    Your "stand" is a classic example of self-righteousness. That "stand" is you

    willing yourself into departing from evil, thereby living right before God and

    self-justified in your actions. Repent of your works based plan and trust God.

    The ten commandments condemn everyone, you included. Deciding not to do

    one or any of the sins does not negate "all have sinned and fallen short of the

    glory of God" Romans 3:23 Salvation is a work through the sinless life of the

    only begotten Son of God, dying the death sinners deserve, whereby God is

    then Sovereign in his graciousness to impute righteousness to those who

    trust they are saved by his grace alone. You have no power to forgive

    yourself of your sin. To be minded otherwise is a serious affront to God.
  • Paul - in Reply on Hebrews 1
    There are is so much in the bible for truth and righteousness in the scriptures but remember at this point in Matthew we are still in the Old Testament, the Lord hadn't gone to the cross. He is referring to the jews who are still living under the law and the jews of today are still trying to live by that law, whereas our only hope is the Lord Jesus Christ, we are saved by the blood He shed on the cross, not by our own works.

    And as far as eternal security goes just go to Ephesians 1:13 which says "...we are saved by that Holy Spirit of promise". We are part of Christ's body those of us who are born again. Our soul and spirit have been redeemed but our sinful flesh hasn't and we are still waiting for the redemption of the purchased possession. Our works cannot save us.
  • Carolyn Wicker on 2 Timothy 4
    Seeking to find additional information about how did Aquila and Priscilla saved Paul in Corinth before going to Ephesus. This is outlined in Acts 18 but the reason was never stated; a little information was given in research.
  • Connie - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Also, your use of the phrase "he wrote his law for her life she would abide..", sounds like you think being good enough saves you.

    This makes me very sad. I wrote this to honor God. To share with you how my heart seeks to return to God my works to preserve the testimony of my trials and tribulations i have been presented with from my childhood to my loss of innocence as an adult to be accountable for my life. I am not worthy nor self righteous. I am constantly told that my love for God is not going to save me from my sins. What sin is it to say that God is my guide?

    Did Noah not have blind faith to build the ark when he was tasked to it?

    I tirelessly and persistently search the written words of the prophets of old and even to this day these words are written by everyone here of their own testimony.

    I keep my own journals of how my disobedience did not go unpunished. How my choices are my choices. The doors that I walked through out of my sinful temptations , adultery, drug addiction and so much more are not closed behind me. I can turn back to it if i choose to. But my own works will not save me, nor will you be saved by them..

    but I am wise enough to choose God and say that i just don't know any other reason for Jesus to die if not so i can live and love the Heavenly Father as my one true God.
  • Connie - in Reply on Luke 17
    Nick. Great question. As a surviving adult of child trafficking I can answer from my own personal experience. Yes! I have been here for about a week . I hoped to share my experiences about how my love for God is unique to my own life. I have witnessed and survived the most unGodly cruelties of mankind upon children that continues at this very moment. So yes if I had not been enslaved I would not have my own understanding of God's involvement in our lives on a personal basis. But i have been told that i am not saved because i am not a follower of Christian traditions. But I will never forget and I will never be moved from my love of God. The terrifying and wonderful love and fear .
  • Connie - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    I am a surviving member of yesterday's thrown away children. I was taken , transported, bought, sold, enslaved, beaten, raped, and thrown away like trash to die.

    I have endured, overcome, accepted , and witnessed the most unGodly cruelties of mankind upon children. I survived by the will of God and God alone saved me as others fell where I stood.

    This is my where my relationship with God began. I do not consider myself perfect and I am responsible for my actions as an adult. When men stand up in name of Christianity and charity ( not all mankind but those who do) and continue to do this very day , it , as a child i witnessed and associated it with the crosses these men wore around their necks.

    So tell me if you can why my love for God is so wrong? What scriptures can you give to me and all the children taking my place? Our worlds are so different. There is a great evil in the hearts of men .. so It was God and God alone who saves me. Saves My life.. and my soul belongs to him..
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Numbers 10
    Nick,

    " I may possibly be condemning my wife when my heart desires to preach conviction of sin instead. "

    I was saved before my wife, I see your dilemma. Preach has a connotation that doesn't imply example. I recently heard the saying, "people don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." When you both are before God's word, avoid your commentary and allow God's word to be the focus of her attention. In God's good time he does the saving, not you and your preaching. In this case I believe "actions speak louder than words." Loving your wife is a commitment not based on feeling. Meet her needs which are your responsibility and trust God to be at work on her needs that are his. I will be praying for you both.

    "How may I discuss the what I'm understanding in the bible" As unsaved, she isn't the person to discuss those matters with, but ask God to provide that person or means to help you reflect on what you see in scripture, such as this site.

    My wife was saved sometime after reading a gospel tract I had left with her. She was alone and holding our just delivered firstborn son in her hospital bed. God brought to her mind John 3:16 and then she thoroughly understood it's meaning. She immediatly called me to say she was saved, and that was perhaps three/four years after me getting saved. I worked at that hospital and was saved during work hours while on the rooftop, no more than forty feet from where her bed was. I was also born in that hospital, so I was born and born again there.

    Having saved you, God will never leave or forsake you. Grow in his graciousness and thank him for his mercies.


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