"PEOPLE" in Bible Discussions

  • Big B - in Reply on Hebrews 1
    People need to read the Bible and quit making up stuff that they think will happen because that is what is going to come down just what the Bible says! Just tell people to read John 3 16 that verse tells you in a very very simple way what you need to do to make it to Heaven! Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and if you truly believe in Him you are going to live like God wants you to! All you have to do is be a Believer, so simple! It is so easy for me to believe in God and his Son Jesus Christ just by looking at this world and everything in it! It did not just evolve like people say it was to complex for that! It was created by God and just say look at the Sun. It has burned at the same temp. from the day it was created also and has never ran out or low on fuel since that day it was created! Amen!!! I hope so much that I am pleasing God because I want to go to Heaven and just think of the best day you have ever had on earth ever and times that day by one million and that is what it will be like in Heaven and then some!! Amen!
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Hebrews 1
    If I may. The kingdom is always changing. We who believe the word know these things because of history. The prophets declared , things and events in the old testament. We see these words also from John, and apostle are the revelation, are the compilation of events that would come to pass at sometime, and or in sometime! Gods word is eternal, and God wants all people to be saved. Because of this ,our God is longsuffering and wishes non to perish. Enoch and Elijah, were translated into heaven bodily. The new testament has described this to happen again ,"one taken and another left". Christ also teaches of his coming, while he is ever present with us. Understanding his words are paramount! we should add nothing to it nor take away from it, more than it says. Christ wants us to watch, to be patient, and you to know ,that you are in the palm of His hand! Is this not enough for you and I to serve Him?
  • Gary Lee - in Reply on 2 Peter 3
    In the Greek the word [stedfastness] is [sterigmos] which means; established, strong, fixed, solid. And you can fall from being solid in Jesus or the Word. Read 2 Peter 2: 15-22 where people who have known the way have turned and followed after Baal. Their condition is now worse than before.
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 2
    Music does indeed provide much comfort & help especially in times of anxiety. Of course, with good music coupled with truthful encouraging words, then the song can truly be uplifting to one's soul & of praise to God by one's spirit.

    Music, as many things we partake in life, is dependent on the person's understanding & appreciation of it. What I like to listen to may not necessarily be another's preference. And that's fine, as good music can minister in its own special way to different people. And so to with a band: various types of music is heard & it becomes one's preference to listen to them or not. I'm not sure whether you're referring to secular bands or Christian. You need to judge whether the words & music conform to your liking & what is proper & wholesome in God's Sight. The best music I find are those that truly cause me to thank & worship God for Who He is & all He has done for me. Hymns do that for me but may not for another who has never been inclined towards them.
  • Brandon Frazier on Ezekiel 32:6
    Is America in the Bible and if so what's the fate of her peoples?? I was told we are mystery Babylon is this true?
  • Jose Pantoja on Matthew 6:8
    We want a lot of things, and they are usually centered on US, or ourselves. God is really trying to open our view to look at others and pray for the needs of others. It is a scientifically proven fact that people gain more when giving than receiving. Sharing what is in our hearts is what he truly wants to hear.
  • Becky on Isaiah 20:4
    I believe Isaiah 20 may reveal to us that we must be want and be willing to obey the Lord. For three years Isaiah walked naked and without shoes because he was told to do so by the Lord. How he must have been judged by people! Isaiah was doing the Lord's will. Likely he was judged unhinged, possibly belittled maybe shunned, uncomfortable physically without his sackcloth and shoes but this work of Isaiah was deemed to be written in the inspired word of God so we should learn from it. This somewhat reminds me of Job's ordeals. We do not know the reason for our trials. I believe Isaiah's time was roughly 750 years before Christ.

    Peace to all. Please pray for His will to be done and effort to accept it.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 11
    In Genesis chapter 10, you get a full chapter detailing all the people that began to multiply after the Ark finally rested on Ararat. Then in chapter 11, we take a step back to see that all those came after Noah & his sons remained together in their journeyings until they came to the land of Shinar (in the Babylonian region). It was here that they decided to build a city for themselves & a tower as a huge symbol of unification. But we know the story, as the Lord confused their common language as this was in contradiction to what God planned that they should go out & fill the Earth. This confusion forced them to separate into groups of single language & spread out to other parts of the region. And so that place was called Babel.
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 18
    High places in the OT are associated with worshipping idols, most often false gods. The Canaanites worshipped their gods on high places which were basically hills that were sometimes artificially made for that purpose. These hills would often have some sort of altar at the top, surrounded by groves of trees and Asherah poles, pillars, or standing stones. Their worship often consisted of burnt offerings, incense, feasts and festivals, cult prostitution, and child sacrifice.

    God had often warned His people of imitating the heathen in these practises but only confine themselves at the prescribed places for worship. Even after the Tabernacle was built, where God met with the High Priest at the Ark of the Testimony, & later the building of the Temple by Solomon, people still through the years resorted to creating their own worship places.

    Today, some religions still have their worship structures built at higher elevations. Some examples are: The great Pagoda atop Thailand's Doi Inthanon mountain; Taung Kalat Monastery in Myanmar (Burma); The Hanging Temple in Shanxi, China; The Roussanou Monastery in Greece; Saint-Michel d'Aiguilhe Chapel in France. By building these, the structures not only become central & visible to all & a focus of veneration & worship, but also give the sense of being closer to God. All these things detract from knowing & worshipping the True God.

    But to the child of God, the Lord desires that the 'high places' in our thoughts & deep in our hearts be removed. That is, anything that would substitute for the lordship of God in our lives, where we give Him equal or second place in how we think & behave, rather than the first place. The NT speaks against being 'high minded': Romans 11:20, 1 Timothy 6:17, 2 Timothy 3:4 all show that such a state of mind & behaviour are contrary to the desires of God for us. Rather, to be like His Son: Philippians 2:3-11.
  • Chris - in Reply on Job 36:9
    In Malachi 3:8-12, Israel had defaulted in their tithing, by holding back more than they should have. This was very wrong, as tithes at that time that were brought into the 'storehouses' were for the feeding of the priests who were not given land to cultivate & grow crops & were dependent on others for this need. God is saying here, that even if the people performed this commandment & duty fully, with a ready obedient heart, He would reciprocate with blessing, more than they could comprehend. Their fields would flourish & the nations would have the witness of the God of Israel's Love & Blessings upon His people.

    In Ephesians 1:3-14, the blessings that come upon the Christian are dependent on what God has done in our lives & what He gives to secure our salvation: they are spiritual blessings which of course, can certainly be seen materially as well but not always. What Israel failed to receive because of their disobedience, the Christian gains because of his position in Christ Jesus & His cleaving unto Him.

    So the similarities are there by the receipt of God's blessings, but the difference I see, is that those in Christ, receive doubly to what Israel could ever receive, blessings that come from an eternal, joyful, familial relationship to the Godhead. Where Israel still had to sacrifice each year for their sins, we have One Who has paid sin's price for us. Where Israel's hope lay in their faltering obedience to God's Commands & trust in God to help them, the Christian's sure hope lies only in Jesus Christ & His Spirit Who guarantees our salvation & position in Christ; we naturally demonstrate our faith & love for Him in doing all this for us, which we could never hope to do ourselves.
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Deuteronomy 18
    My belief is that Mary, by the grace of God, supplied the ovum necessary for the Word to become flesh. Else he would have not truly been the Son of Man, but another life form.

    According to scripture, Jesus Christ would be the seed of the woman, the root of Jesse, the seed of Abraham, made like unto his brethren, the root and offspring of David.

    And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Genesis 3:15)

    Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (Isaiah 7:14)

    And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. (Isaiah 11:10)

    For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. (Hebrews 2:16-17)

    I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (Revelation 22:16)
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 18
    You're referring now to one of my favourite Bible NT Books, so I'll try & contain myself sharing a bit of the background & answers to your questions.

    The Book was written to Christians who were mainly of Jewish background, hence they needed to see from the Scriptures & understand why Jesus was greater in every way being the only suitable Sacrifice for us & to not apostatize by reverting back to Judaism or Jewish thought. Therefore, the Hebrews writer (possibly, Paul), endeavours to show Christ's superiority & of Christianity.

    Jesus was superior to the Prophets (1:1-4); to the Angels (1:5 - 2:18); to Moses (3:1-6); & to the Priesthood (5:1 - 10:39). To the Priesthood: Jesus did not come in the line of the priests of old (i.e. through the Levite tribe): He came through David & Judah & yet He came fulfilling the position of Priest. The Hebrews writer explains that Jesus' position exceeded the position & work of the priests: the priests had to offer sacrifices for their sins & for the people, but Jesus fulfilled the role of a High Priest from Heaven, by offering up Himself as the Sacrifice (7:27) & also presently doing a mediating Work in Heaven on our behalf (8:1).

    So if Jesus had no earthly qualification to be Priest, it had to be from another. So the typology is taken from King Melchisedec who was a King & served as a priest to his people in Salem (later, Jerusalem). Since there was no record of this king's birth, family or death, Jesus is likened to such an one who served as a priest without coming from a Levitical background. So in Hebrews chap 7, 'perfection' was not realized from the earthly priests (ordained from the 'law of a carnal commandment'), but from one such as Melchisedec (by the authority of an 'endless life', a type of 'eternal existence' of the man Melchisedec).

    That Jesus did not sin had nothing to do with 7:16, but that Jesus withstood Satan who determined to make Jesus fail as the eternal Saviour, giving us no further way to salvation.
  • I love reading Gods word the Bible and have been helped

    So much over the years and more than ever . Jesus is real to me , yet as I have learned I have witnessed that so many really don't know him , deception is massive and worse than ever . I have great experiences with God on a daily basis , yet so few have this , not people that I have met any how . The discussions on this web site do not help me , I'm not sure if sharing is worth it either . I'm quite happy with my experience with God and staying strong in the word and prayer is essential. The promises of God are worth more than fine gold .

    I'm not complaining or anything but I do not desire conflicts either . But so many of you are deceived and don't know it .

    My the Good lord be merciful to you if you are able to receive it ! God bless you all ! Bob
  • Kevin Stayrook on Philippians 2
    Genesis 1 26 -28 I need some help to understand this , If I take this as I do that everything in the Bible is TRUE . Then Adam and Eve were not the first people God made , because why would he say that they have dominion over all the beast , and be fruitful and multiply , God did not state that till Adam and Eve was sent out of Eden . Just need a little help cause I was always told Adam and Eve were FIRST. Would explain were Cain's wife came from , help please
  • Connie Williamson on Habakkuk 2:9
    Was needing some encouraging verses, on the courante events that we are living in, Prophases' being full filed, or something to give my soul some hope that there is still goodness in people.
  • Valerie - in Reply on Luke 16:23
    Chris: You are absolutely RIGHT! Romans 12:2 And be no conformed to this world. but be ye transformed by (through) the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. When reviewing the above scripture verse 22 of Luke 16 the angels carried him. I believe that GOD has angels to what he instructs. Ezekiel 10:18-19. verse 23 of Luke 16. " the rich man also died " I wonder if the the rich man blasphemed ( that is another scripture within the bible the WORD of GOD the GOD in the form of JESUS would send a person to hell for. Also within verse 24 we see , he cried and goes through family lineage he confesses and gives honor to GOD the Father and his torment continues. Also within that verse he reflect on the knowledge he learned and request for the person he disregard to give him water. The rich man recognizes where he will live for eternity. That provides the TRUTH of the LIVING WORD OF GOD that GOD ignited his cognitive remembrance so the rich man is tormented

    You bring up a valid prespective. To the WORD of GOD. I believe that and after researching the WORD OF GOD. It provides specific instructions within the old testament of the proper way of disposing of dead people and their remains. I have to find it the scripture. Now it is 2021 the cremation would logically be safer. Because of the world and the nature of it. Also I think cremation also sends a bible prespective and sight to the Abraham and Lazarus. The cremation of 2021 is very different I believe from bible times. The TRUTH of current world.The cultivation of land is to be preserved. I think. Abraham stood his post within the scripture when speaking the word of GOD and the use of the word son and the reflection of his meanness and what he did to the Lazarus. Hell is real. Also Chris there is an art depiction of GOD and the TRUTH and HELL at 1stDIB it is from Italy,circa 1890 called Mannequin. We can see the scripture. 7:03 AM
  • A. Smith on Psalms 139
    I absolutely agree with this and I also understand the other statement about abuse. Child abuse is like developing p.t.s.d or being in a battle some come out and can cope others do to their kids what was done to them. This is done because hurt people often hurt people,so in thinking of a family first deal with past hurts and abuses you've gone through so it won't translate to your kids.Then others make sure that the exact opposite happens but then they do not disciplining their kids at all. Their kids then grow up( most time )to be rude and disrespectful having no sense of boundaries. Parents need to be taught how to discipline their kids correctly without causing mental and emotional or even physical damage. It's not what you do but how you do it. Everything should be done in love. Discipline should never be done in anger that being said you shouldn't wait long after offense is done to discipline for that matter. It also should be explained why the discipline must be give. However I must say from experience some parents behave like monsters and uses their authority wrongly. They abuse their authority even into adulthood through unjustified control and manipulation. Most time for their own personal gain. So let's pray for families to be strengthen and brought back to Yahweh original order and plan for it. Shalom
  • Dennis L Greeno on Genesis 4:14
    Kelly's Question: Who are these other people that live outside of Eden? God created Adam, and from Adam He created Eve, Eve bore Cain, then bore Able whom Cain killed. So who is it that Cain is afraid will kill him if they see him?

    Answer: Although the Bible does not give the timeline of events during earlier chapters of Genesis it can be assumed that there were several years, perhaps even a hundred in which other births of Adam and Eve's who have grown up and knowing ALL of their siblings, it quite reasonable to see that Cain [may have] been concerned for their retaliating on behalf of Abel. Of course this is just a reasonable guess, but not without the obvious conclusion(s).
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 116:6
    Cathy, I just respond to your question here only, as you've asked a similar question a couple of times. I can see that this issue is troubling you a lot & it is important. When I read about 'forgiveness' in the Bible, whether of God's forgiveness of us or us forgiving someone else, it speaks of an act of love that demands no further repercussions from us. Just as God Who forgives us of our sins when we come to Him in faith because of Jesus' Sacrifice, God's forgiveness then requires that He no longer remains angry with us & that He no longer holds our many sins as still accountable before Him. In other words, when God forgives, He treats us as clean, innocent of all crimes & fully acceptable to Him into His family.

    But does God forget? He being God, cannot suddenly have the thought of us just having wronged Him, be obliterated from His Mind - that wouldn't make sense. So, His forgiveness will make us not guilty before Him but not release His Mind from knowing that we were & still are sinners. Even of Jesus when He walked on Earth, it was said of Him in John 2:24,25, "But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men; and needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man." Many people began to believe in Him because of His miracles, but still He did not "commit Himself to them" (or, He didn't put His trust or confidence in their good words about Him), because He knew the true condition of their hearts.

    In yours & our situation, we are told to forgive one another & so we should, so that we demonstrate a true heart's response to someone else's wrong against us based on the love of Christ in us. But we need to be prudent, knowing that our hearts are prone to doing evil, & so in our forgiveness of someone else, we remain cautious (i.e. we fully accept that person into our hearts but careful if there happens to be signs of a recurrence of such acts against us). We must forgive but we remain cautious, remembering what we all are.
  • Adam - in Reply on Proverbs 26
    I think people often ask the question about their pets being in heaven, because they want to be with them and that's what they imagine joy to be. What I don't understand about the question is that it sounds like an interview question- that if they find out their pets might not be there then they might not want to follow Jesus or be a Christian or go to heaven? To me, that's illogical, because we already know heaven will be infinitely ma real Christian? The best day on earth would be a million times greater in heaven.

    Secondly, the Bible is absent of any scriptures saying pets will be in heaven so its pure baseless speculation to say one way or the other.

    Third, I think it's silly to say all animals go to heaven and all of them have souls and can sin. So, annoying flies, mosquitos and ticks will be in heaven? And a dung beetle or a bacterium or hammerhead shark will read the Bible and go to heaven because they followed Jesus and avoided sin? There is an enormous difference between humans and other animals- we have souls and make thoughtful moral decisions and about right and wrong.

    God bless...
  • Chris - in Reply on Habakkuk 2
    God's prophets, as Habakkuk was, received God's Messages to them or for the people in various ways. Here we see that Habakkuk received a vision (i.e. it wasn't in a dream, but a vivid portrayal of what was to come before his eyes). He was instructed to not just regurgitate the vision by word to others but he was to write it down on tables (or, tablets which could be of hardy material such as stone or wood), & to write it legibly (i.e. using clear large characters), so that those reading it may read it correctly & become so disturbed & horrified by this prophecy, that they go in haste to proclaim this news.

    And verse 3 is important: this prophecy was yet to be fulfilled at a much later time but when that time arrives, it would be fulfilled to the letter. And even if might seem a long time in being fulfilled, the command was to be patient & wait for it, as what the Lord ordains will happen. And of course, the prophecy was given because of Judah's many sins & idolatrous ways, resulting in the forthcoming captivity by Nebuchadnezzar's invasion & taking them prisoners to Babylon. Even similar prophecies have been given from time to time as God always sends out His warning by the prophets to His people. But the people never change & so they suffered greatly under His Hand.
  • Kevin Mack on Psalms 10
    Sounds like the Psalmist is taking about the traitors in our government, secret santanic societys,deep state, shadow government . All are masters of oppression against the president of the United States of America and the people. They will experience the wrath of God
  • Rob on Genesis 2
    It's amazing to read comments on bible verses and how people are able to support their doctrine with other verses .

    Just about anything can be made a doctrine easily .

    Let's get back to the teaching of the Holy Spirit . Look up a man George Muller of Bristol, he did just that , he put away all the teachings of men and just Trusted God to give him the understanding. Look what Mullers accomplishments with this method of obeying the word of God , worth checking out . Lots on the net about him , his testimony is obeying the scriptures.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Norman, I just want to add another point to Adam's very good perception of "people wanting to believe what they want to believe". As we read of Jesus' Life & Ministry, we see that the Jewish religious leaders were never far away. Their sole objective was to discredit Jesus & to also keep the people from following this 'false teacher with strange doctrines & claims'. Not only did they have to protect their understanding of the Law, & of course their added rules & regulations thereby overburdening the people & compelling them to adhere to what they said, but they had to protect their own position & credibility. The matter of God's Word, of Truth or of the witness of Jesus' Life & Work before their eyes had little or no bearing as the other (more important) matters of 'their rules, their hold on people & their position in the eyes of the people' outweighed anything else.

    So when we read of Jesus' full blown accusatory remarks against these "blind leaders of the blind" (Matthew 15:14), He did well to describe them as "whited sepulchres", as "vipers", "hypocrites", "blind guides/fools", etc. This was not said by Jesus as snide remarks as to those who opposed Him, but as if speaking to workers from Satan, "children of the Devil" (John 8:44), who did nothing for the Kingdom of God, but only served Satan, dragging many innocent people with them to hell. If in any group of people, whether in Islam, RC, the cults, etc., where the adherents are bound to their leaders or else face wrath & retribution, ought to be a clear demonstration of the fallacy of such a system & its great departure from the Truth.

    So many began to follow Jesus by what they heard & saw of Him (John 10:40-42), thereby opposing the Pharisaical teachings & no doubt facing their wrath, but also they followed the dictates of their consciences, of what they witnessed & the opening of their eyes by God's Spirit. Christ came to set men free in many more ways than we fully realize.
  • Steven Spencer HMM RAPTURE OR TYPE - in Reply on Matthew 8
    Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:19-21
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Hi Norman,

    I think if Jesus came today and performed a bunch of miracles people still wouldn't believe. Perhaps even a fewer % today would believe than the % that believed in Jesus's time. We have a society that wants to believe what it wants to believe, not based on what is evident or true. Some believe their arbitrary feelings determine 'my truth,' or that truth is relative.

    Many non-believers have spiritual and supernatural experiences today and that doesn't automatically mean they believe in God. Some even have stories of dying and talking to their dead relatives and coming back to life- some choose to believe after that, but some don't.

    So, I think most do not have an intellectual block to believing, but an emotional block.

    Romans 1:20 says that God's design is so evident that everyone is without excuse to believe. There's nothing that makes our heart beat right now. Only God is keeping us alive. That's God's amazing design, but yeah, others would have you believe that it's likely that a random explosion from nothing which has never been witnessed and can never be recreated created this amazing design with countless advanced features that the smartest minds on earth can't comprehend. It takes more faith to believe in accidental design than in God's intentional design, yet people don't want to believe in God because they are afraid of giving up their lifestyle of sin, so they do mental gymnastics to arrive at their desired belief. This is what I mean by an emotional block.
  • Sarah on John 3:8
    What I believe about salvation is this. It's like what my pastor said, which you can look him on YouTube or Facebook, Bryce Vandiver, unless you live in Granbury then go visit Bible Baptist Church in Granbury on Wednesday nights and Sunday morning s at 10 An Sunday school, 11 AM morning service and 2pm in the afternoons and 7pm on Wednesday nights, but it's like he said that we can not earn our way into heaven by our good works. I believe when I was a sinner that The Holy Spirit, God, or Jesus told me I wasn't saved and I believed I wasn't and came to Christ. Then, as a newborn baby in Him, I wanted to do everything Godly and righteous. I do believe there is no such thing as a second chance, but I do believe God gives us so many opportunities to accept His son and then there comes one last opportunity that He speaks to our hearts and we either take it or don't. I can say I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, but it doesn't mean anything unless on purpose I act on faith by saying what I believe. The scriptures says It is by faith through grace we are saved. But it also says to be a doer and not hearer only. Now, we are not perfect because we are not God, but I believe we should try to make ammends with God and the people we have failed. And people we love fail us too. So let's forgive, forget, move ahead and remember God is judge.
  • Norman Walker - in Reply on Genesis 1
    That is something that I just cannot understand why so many people believe this world evolved and not created by God? This world is so complex and all it takes for me is to just look at it and the Sun. This world has millions of very complex creatures including billions of humans that are different and the Sun has burned at the correct temp. to keep everything on Earth alive and has never ever ran out of fuel!! Never even ran low every since the day it was created so tell me how many things that burn never run out of fuel, non of them they all have to have fuel but the Sun!! Just take a good look at it and if you do not see it was created by God then I am sorry for you. God created the Heavens and the Earth and I so hope I will get to go to Heaven forever and ever! Amen and thank you Jesus and thank you God!!
  • Norman Walker Butch on Psalms 96:2
    I have a question that I cannot get a answer to and have been trying for a long time. How could the people see Jesus raise people from the dead, heal people right in front of them that they knew was sick, preform miracles right in front of there faces like raise people from the dead and walk on water. My question is why did people still not believe in him when they saw all this right in front of them and knew for sure he did it because they knew the people for a long long time. If I saw him walk on water and preform a miracle on one of my friends that is all it would take for me to believe in him! So what do you all think? Love you Jesus Amen
  • Chris - in Reply on John 10:18
    Sadly, No. Her heart was still there in Sodom, in spite of the wickedness of that city. She might have physically turned around, but her heart was already on the way back to be at her home, with her people & her friends. But if you're thinking whether her spirit would still be saved in the day of reckoning, that remains in God's domain of judgement. It would be like the coming time of Great Tribulation, a Day of God's Wrath on disobedient mankind: the chance to escape will not be the passion of most, preferring the desire of the flesh & of life itself, rather than desiring the salvation of God.

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