"GONNA" in Bible Discussions

Hey Momsage, the truth is, they are all about the "commandments" until it comes to the 4th one. Sure, all the others are applicable, well.. of course, except this 4th one. Truth is, they don't have the spiritual "guts" to obey that one. Too scared they gonna look "funny".. or weird. They would rather throw out a bunch of scriptures out of context to hide behind; Rather than prayerfully try it out of obedience. Spiritual "whimps".. stay away from the "straight" gate.

To give response to what you ask I believe that we have an obligation to tell people the truth but no, you're not gonna be able to tell all Christians that you come in contact with everything that you're doing wrong, but I do believe that if the spirit of the Lord leads you to tell them, you should tell them in obedience to the spirit of the living God and when you speak about trust, yes we should only put on trust in the Lord and his word we can have confidence in people, but we don't put our trust in him and then in truth I'm not sure if you were asking me a question are you trying to tell me something but either way I'm giving this response and confidence that is an answer to maybe a question or maybe the response and yes, we should be able to give scriptures for what it is that we speak and also to give a response to the comment about believing the full Bible, the new and old testament I absolutely agree the Bible says that the the New Testament or the Old Testament is a shadow of the new way to believe it all from the front to the back. There's something in the front for us in our living now just as well as it is something in the back we need to oh and the new, so I definitely believe we are supposed to operate in full word

I don't care if it's a Baptist ministry I met this ministry I don't care about the name or who they associate with I said a Bible believing ministering such as a nondenominational I don't care what the name is that they carry if they're not preaching the truth they're going to leave here and stand before God and they're gonna end up in hell a Bible ministry best preaching the gospel from the front to the back people who don't believe in Christmas who don't celebrate Easter just a pure, downright truth, the gospel, the Holy Spirit, leading gardening, directing those that are preaching the truth

If you stand before someone knowing they're in a Catholic ministry and you don't tell them that they need to leave that ministry. The Lord is going to hold you accountable for not telling them the truth so that's what he left us here for is the tell the people the truth, so you're not gonna tell me, God is gonna move them out and in his own timing because if he's allowed you to preach the truth to them that time would be then right then and now, so you're gonna tell me you're gonna stand before someone to know that they're being indoctrinated falsely but they have a desire for the truth. Are you gonna let them go back to a false gospel,

So I read first Peter 315 and there again that's no excuse for us to compromise. It's just telling us to be ready to give an answer meanie have a heart to Mom's for parrots to preach the gospel to minister to them to tell them the full truth if I was to come into the presence of a Catholic and then give their life to the Lord and next thing, I'm gonna tell them is that you need to go to a Ministry that's filled with the word, and no compromise because

If not, they could possibly pull back into Catholicism and that's not what we want. We want them to to be delivered from darkness and into the truth so we tell them the truth.

Then you say they my be very young in the way so because of that, it sounds like you feel you should compromise with them because of that but no, you speak the truth and leave it up to them to make the decision what they're gonna do but never compromise never back down off the gospel

Who wants to be born again and doesn't know and you think it's gonna be hard to live right?

You seem very passionate about what your saying but very wrong in order to win souls you speak the truth in Love that's what the Bible says Eph4:15 then you are also wrong when you tell a born again believer in Christ Jesus to fellowship with those in darkness to win them when the Bible says what fellowship does dark have with light 1John1:6 that's just to speak on a few things you wrote I'm not gonna lie to you and say I read it all because I didn't why because I see it as emotional not true People are gonna Die and end up in hell if they base there lives on what they feel is true versus studying the Bible and knowing the truth we should have no dealings with those who live in darkness because spirits are transferable. If we desire to have what they have an end up in hell then yes, we should fellowship with them but if we desire in heaven, then we must do what the word says, and that's preach the gospel to the laws, and be separated from among those that are not right which of those that are wicked, who have not receive Jesus in their heart, and that's the truth.

Yes that still small voice , it's so easily blocked out by our own desires , it whispers to us but our sinful flesh screams to us : I want this , I'm gonna do this , its my right , I I I me me me , we drowned this voice out with our worldly ways , the sight of our eyes and our own desires that all pertain to the satisfying of ourselves , our flesh our egos etc . Be still and wait for the Word of the Lord , here is the way , walk in it . The first step is for us to quieten our selves and this world around us . Turn it off as you would the tv . The things of this world are a massive distraction to us because we are flesh and we walk in the flesh , in the sight of our eyes and we are led by our fleshly / worldly desires . It's a very still small voice so we need to tune out of this world and tune into that guiding Spirit of Truth . Don't let the things of this world drown out that voice of Truth . Of course we are all still flesh and we have to live in this world for now but we must learn to tune out of it , turn it off , remove it from our hearts and minds and let the Spirit of Truth be heard in us . Don't get so embroiled in the politics and media and latest trends and opinions and discourses that are about worldly judgements and opinions , none of it matters , this world is going to be filled with the Glory of God and all the irrelevant drivel that goes on around us all day every day , will be gone and forgotten .God never changes , humans don't change . If we are fortunate and open to Him , God will change us into acceptable children and allow us the privilege of being with Him forever in His Kingdom that shall be nothing like these vile evil cold cruel viscious vain and pointless kingdoms of men that only lead to death . See through all these irrelevant distractions , shake off the dust of these kingdoms of men from your feet , don't let it cling to you .

2 Thess 2:3....The day of the lord cannot come till there 1st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed.....Jesus said it was gona be like this.....I am the light of the world but the Night comes when no man can work.....6.5 million Jews died in Hitlers death camps....That should tell ya something about the times we are in.....And Isaiah 60:2 said that darkness was gonna cover the earth and gross darkness the ppl.....No Salvation or the Kingdom till the man child (The H.G.) is born Rev 12:10.....Which is mankinds fruit unto God via his good seed the contents of that book in the fathers right hand that Jesus wrote with his own blood at Calvary.

.......The last 2 k yrs have been nothing but wars and senseless killings.....The 2 days he was in the tomb is translating to 2 k yrs of Spiritual darkness for humanity......As Isaiah 60:2.....said darkness was gona cover the earth and gross darkness the ppl.....Churches and bibles on every corner but our world has become another Sodom and Gomarrah.

......I am the light of the world but the night is coming when no man can work.....Israel has become a nation again after 2 k yrs....Thus the Israel of God cannot be far behind.....When the book will be opened that he wrote with his own blood.....Sin will come to an end simply b/c the manchild which is the H.G.is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and JUDGEMENT.....The prince of this world that lives in humanity is gona be Judged.....As our God is a consuming fire.....

.....But what happened to the early Church....They were a great Army.....But God gave them up....Till the woman is in travail and Child birth.... Micah 5 :3 Therefore shall he give them up till she that is in travail has given birth....The woman in Rev 12 :5 that is giving birth to the man child the H.G. that is gonna reprove the world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....But Jesus said 4 times in John 6... I will raise them up AGAIN THE LAST DAY.....Ezek. dried bones...Gbu

Alan Matthew 13:25....While men slept an enemy came and sowed Tares among the WHEAT.....So the good seed is the WHEAT....As the word of God, that good seed is the bread from Heaven....There is a hidden manna involved.....The very reason the sower goes forth to sow his seed is that he might be multiplied as the stars of heaven.....That was the great Promise that Christ might be mutiplied as the stars of heaven.....Thus the sower and his seed.....Thus the wheat is a baby Christ simply b/c its Christ the bridegroom that is sowing his seed in humanity.....Thats y he has to know us....If he does not know us there will be no fruit which is a baby Christ.....Which is the H.G. the Child of Promise.....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME....As Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit.....Thats the H.G. that is gonna be born in us via his good seed the living word.....Thats y Peter is saying being bornagain of an incorruptible even by the words of God.....We have to birth a new Creature via his good seed the word......Alan there is only 1 quota for the good fruit.....If I be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me.....ALL MEN.....And no man can come unto me unless it is given to them of my father.....Which is the father's new covenant Jeremiah 31:34.....I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest.....Alan ya gotta keep in mind that the sower of that good seed is Christ the bridegroom.....That y he wants to know us.....She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations.....Jesus is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven.....Thus the sower and his precious seed the bridegroom's seed thus a baby Christ.....Thats y he is saying blessed are them that follow me in the REGENERATION.....He is gonna multiply/regenerate himself in humanity via his good seed...Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains.... Jeremiah 30:6 kjv.....The Child is the H.G. THAT Promise Child.....Behold i send the Promise of my father upon you.

The Faith of Abraham and Sarah resulted in a Child called Isaac.....Which was a Child of Promise....Their Faith was a type of a pregnancy....Abraham wd be the Father of a multitude.....Sarah was too old to have Children.....But she got pregnant b/c of their faith which answers to the 1st Promise that Abraham wd be multiplied as the sands of the seas.....But God didn't Sware by himself in the 1st Promise.....Of the multiplication of Abraham's seed......God only swore by himself in the 2 nd Promise...That Christ wd be mutiplied as the stars of Heaven which was a New Covenant Gen.22 :17.....When Jesus died at Calvary....when a seed dies it multiplies...So Faith under this New covenant has a greater Promise.....Thus the Child of Promise under the new covenant is the H.G....The Child of Promise By Faith.....Real Faith under this N.C. is a spiritual pregnancy......Its Christ that is gona be multiplied as the stars of heaven..... Hebrews 11:1 Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.....When a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.....She brought forth a manchild....Which is the Child of PROMISE....Remember that 2 nd Promise when God swore by himself......Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods.....b/c i have spoken these words ( his seeds ) Sorrows have filled your hearts a spiritual pregnancy.....As Faith comes by hearing his word which are his seeds.....Everything under this N.C. is heavenly in the spiritual realm.....As we have borne the image of the earthy we must also bear the image of the heavenly.....Now its the H.G. that is the Child of Promise....Our new Heart and new Spirit.....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit...Which is that Child of Promise the H.G.....Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of man.....Mankind is gonna have a baby Christ.....But there was no such seed under the O.T...H.G.IS GONA BE BORN IN US.

The law was given by Moses but Grace and Truth came by Christ Jesus..... John 1:17

......The law and the Prophets were until John since that time the Kingdom of God is preached and all men press into it Luke 16:16

There was no baptism of the H.G. till Christ came....Thus no new birth till Christ came.....No new Creature till Christ came....The H.G. was not given till Christ was glorified.....Thus no kingdom or real Salvation from Sin....till the woman births the manchild...... Rev. 12:10....Simply b/c the book of life was sealed with 7 seals.....Jesus wrote this book of life with his own blood at Calvary.....The O.T. answers to the 1st wine the law.....But the N.T. answers to the 2 nd wine which was the best wine.....The gift of the H.G. the Kingdom that is gonna rule all nations .....The wedding was not till the 3 rd Day which is the last day when Jesus turned the water into wine....

.......The Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in Joy and Peace in the H.G. Romans 14:17.....The REAL H.G. is the Kingdom of God.

.......But the O.T. was a shadow of things to come.....Just as Abraham Isaac and Jacob were multiplied as the sands of the seas so the heavenly Godhead will be multiplied as the stars of heaven.....Thus there will be an Israel of God as the stars of heaven....The seed of Christ will produce a heavenly ppl that are gona be born in us.....Which answers to our new hearts and new spirits.....The H.G. The Children of Promise.....Flesh and blood are not the real Children of God ....Its only the Children of Promise that are counted for the good seed Roman 9:8 kjv.....Which are Spirits the H.G. Plural...I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh....Thus the sower and his seed, his words as my words are SPIRIT and Life.....The field is the world...But this New Covenant is gonna make us Gods.....To whom the word came ( the living word) it made them Gods and the scriptures.....Thats y the Prophets were saying what manner of love has the father bestowed on us.

Hello Alan Gbu....Lemme give ya my take on the parable of the Sower and his seed in Matthew 13.....My take is the wheat is a Baby Christ simply b/c the Sower of the good seed is Christ the bridegroom.....Thats y he has to know us in order the sow his good seed in our hearts.....Jesus said b/c i have spoken these Words ( his seed ) sorrows has filled your hearts.... a spiritual pregnancy.....But after the Child is born her sorrows are turned into Joy.... John 16:21....But the Child is spirit as he says that which is born of the spirit is spirit.....Thats the H.G. that Child of Promise....That New Creature that has to be born in us via his good seed.....Resulting in our new hearts and new Spirits....A new innerman that has to be born in us.....1 st the Child is born in us....Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God that liveth and abideth forever.....then the son, then the fullnest of the Kingdom of God in the Son the H.G. 3 measures....Untill we come into the full statue of the son of God.....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( our new birth ) you will in no wise enter there in.....Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me....That was the great Promise.....I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven....Thus the sower and his precious seed has to be sown in our hearts......Thats y he has to KNOW us.....And this knowledge is gonna cover this whole earth as the waters cover the seas..... Isaiah 11:9.....ok lemme go.....Hope this can be of some help to ya.....Gbu.....When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he said unto us a Child is born, unto us a son is given. Isaiah 9 :6.....I love it

Paul was still sinning after he was saved.....Simply b/c Satan had sown a Tare in his heart and mind making him sin.... Romans 7....If i do something that i do not consent unto, its not i that does it but sin that dwells in my members.....Jesus had forewarned us that this was gonna happen to anybody that had been impregnated with the good seed.....Satan was gonna come and sow a Tare an evil seed in us resulting in a warfare with in us.....Paul said when i wd do good evil is present with me....Which was making Paul sin.....With my mind i serve the law of God but with my flesh the law of sin....Paul had become 2 ppl in his mind.....1 good and 1 evil....1 wd be taken and 1 wd be left....His thorn in the flesh was the Tare that satan had put there.....Thats y God wd not remove it even tho Paul sought GOD 3 times.....Paul wd have to endure to the end of this warfare in heaven....Which was in his mind his thorn in the flesh.....But no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus.....

......We see another picture of this warfare in Rev. 12:5.....Satan wants to destroy this woman and her Child....(Paul and his anointing ) Simply b/c satan knows that this manchild which is the H.G. The anointing that spirit of truth is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement......Thats y Paul was saying O Wretched man that i am.....Paul cd not control this Tare Satans seed that he describes as a thorn in the flesh.....Paul was sinning against his WILL.....thus no condemnation.

........ Rev 22:11.....He that is unjust let him be unjust still and he that is filthy let him be filthy still....Thats Satans seed the TARE that is within us. Warring against our minds...Violence in heaven.....Kingdom against Kingdom.

.......He that is righteous let him be righteous still ....And he that is Holy let him be Holy still..... But this is the wheat Jesus's good seed The H.G. that is at war with the Tares.....Thats y we must endure to the end 1 will be taken and 1 will be left....GB

Big difference David between the Old covenant and the New covenant....Jesus said many prophets and righteous Men has desired to see the things you see and HEAR the things you hear but heard them Not.....Hear ye therefore the parable of the Sower and his seed.....Thats y Jesus said he that is least in the Kingdom is greater then John....John was the O.C.....But the H.G. was not yet given in the O.T......And cd not be given till Jesus was GLORIFIED.....When the sower will go forth to sow his seed in humanity Jesus is gona be glorified Which is multiplication of his seed.....As the script. says the glory of the father are his Children.....Which are spirits as that which is born of the spirit is spirit.....The H.G. is the multiplication of Christ Jesus....Thats y they refer to the H.G. as the Promise.....Under the O.C. it was Isaac that was the Child of Promise....Impling natural Israel.....But under this N.C. its the H.G. that is the Child of Promise...Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit...Imping an Israel of God that is gonna be born in us via his good seed the living word that N.C...There is no Salvation or Kingdom until the woman births the manchild which is the H.G. that Child of PROMISE..... Rev 12:10

........What the scriptures are trying to tell us is....there is no Salvation from sin till we birth the H.G. That CHILD OF Promise.....A lil Child is gonna lead them....Thats y Jesus is telling us Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( the H.G.) You will in no wise enter there in.....As that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit.....Which answers to our new heart and new SPIRIT.....That New CREATURE....The woman in Rev.12 keeps the commandments simply b/c she has birth the Child of Promise the H.G....Which is the testimony of Jesus.....that Spirit of truth that is gona rule all nations.....And reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judegment....Thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed...not in O.T..

There are 2 facets to the Cross the new Covenant from Calvary....Plz keep that in mind.....One is redemption for humanity via his precious blood.....But the 2 nd is multiplication of his seed...Smite the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the lil ONES....The babes and suckling he mentions that can worship God with a Perfect Praise.....That are gonna be born in us that hear his words his seeds.....Thats y he is saying whosoever receiveth one such Child in my NAME receiveth ME.....Which are the Children of Promise.....An Israel of God.....The Children of the kingdom...

.......That was the great PROMISE..... Genesis 22:17......I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven.....Thus multiplication of his precious seed in humanity.....Resulting in a Baby Christ born in us sinners who cd not keep the law in a Dream.....And this Child is born of God in us and he cannot sin.....Thus fulfilling the law.....The 2 nd facet is truly multiplication of his seed in humanity...Thus the sower and his precious seed.....When a seed dies it multiplies.....He told the Greeks unless a seed dies it abides alone...Just 1 seed ....but if it dies it will bring forth much fruit many Christ.....Everybody is gonna get a seed thus everybody is gonna birth him.....The Greeks wanted to see him.....The whole world is gonna see him b/c of what he did at Calvary that New Covenant in his blood....Remember God Almighty was so passionate about this Promise of multiplication that he swore by his very self...Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came ( the living word) it made them Gods and the scriptures cannot be broken....Living scriptures his offspring born in us via his seed.....Thats y the woman is giving birth ,its simply a picture of multiplication of his seed.....And thats y the dragon satan wants to kill the woman and her CHILD...Her Child is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement....Which is the spirit of truth Jesus spoke of.

Gi Gi I pray for you, In Jesus name.....Rev.12:5....Now you have put your self in rank with satan the dragon that wants to kill the woman and her Child....Which is the H.G.....My doctrine is solely the doctrine of the manchild.....The H.G. that Child of Promise.....And its this Child the spirit of truth that is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgment.....He has neva known you Gi Gi, if he had you wd be with Child of the H.G.....But you are saying this is all hogwash....Clearly you are without understanding of spiritual things....GBU

I disagree with you GI GI.....We cannot study our selves into the Kingdom of God.....Its gotta come by divine revelation.....and a Child has to be born in us which is the H.G. That Child of Promise.....As Jesus told Peter Flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you but my Father in heaven.....Which is the H.G. the gift of God.....An incorruptible seed has to be sown in us that initiates a new Birth of Christ in us....Thats y he has to know us....So that his good seed will be sown in our hearts.....Thus the babes and sucklings .....Which are baby Gods thats y their praise is perfect.....Outa of the mouths of babes and suckling thou has perfected Praise.....To whom the word came ( the living word) it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken.....

His good seed the word has to be sown in our hearts initiating Faith a spiritual pregnancy....When a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....But our fetus is the H.G....As that which is born of the spirit is spirit...She brought forth a man child that is gona rule all nations which is that spirit of truth that is gona reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgment.... Gal 4 :19 My lil CHILDREN of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you.....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....That Hidden manna.....Plz note their is no SALVATION OR KINGDOM till the woman gives birth to the Children as says in Rev. 12 :10.....Thats y Jesus is saying these things are HID from the wise and Prudent...But only revealed unto babes....His babes...His seed etc....Behold me and the Children the lord has given me are they not for signs and wonders to the house of Israel.....They are our new hearts and new spirits.....The H.G. is truly the Israel of God a heavenly ppl that are gonna be born in us....The sun does not lite on them or any heat nor do they ever hunger or thirst simply b/c they are Spirits..Th H.G....

Hello Guys no offence.....But there is no Salvation or kingdom of God till the woman gives birth...In Rev. 12:10....And i heard a loud voice from heaven saying NOW NOW is come Salvation and strength and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ ( the Womans Child ) For the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which assused them before our God day and night and they over came him by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony....

This is y Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.....Which is the New Birth of Christ in us.....She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations....And her Child was caught up to God and to his Throne.....If we don't bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G....The Child of PROMISE...We will not enter the Kingdom of God,

This Child of Promise is gonna be born in us that hears his words his good seeds.....Who is my Mother and brethren them that hears my words and keeps them...Today if you will hear his voice (his good seed) harden not your hearts...Thats what Faith is a spiritual pregnancy.....B/c of his seeds the words of the book...That New Covenant in his blood at Calvary the living word....The Child is the H.G. and is alive...And is in essence Christ in us.....This New Covenant is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of a Child in everyone... Jeremiah 31:34 I will KNOW them ALL from the least to the greatest....This knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.... Isaiah 11:9.....There will be no more seas of humanity that have not been washed in his blood....I will stain ALL MY RAIMENT....Tho your sins be as scarlet they shall be white as snow....As there is no fuller on this earth that can whiten us like his blood.....Its only the manchild the H.G. that spirit of truth that can reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....Thats y Jesus mentions the babes and sucklings an Israel of God on th Horizon.

Hiya Jeme Gbu ....But Remember what Jesus said I am the light of the world...But the NIGHT comes when no man can work....Which was that great falling away....The abomination of desolation in all the Churches...Your house is left unto you desolate.....History proves the great abomination of desolation.....Which have been nothin but wars and rumors of wars.....6.5 million Jews died in hitlers death camps....Jesus was right, there is no Eternal life in the scriptures per se....Its only in the H.G. the gift of God.... Rev 12 :10.....I heard a loud voice from heaven saying NOW is come SALVATION and strength and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ (the Child)...the H.G....Which is the Child of Promise....The contents of that book of life in the fathers right hand....God told Daniel in 12:9 Go thy way Daniel till the end comes when the book is opened....That Book that Jesus wrote with his own blood....That no man cd look into in heaven or earth....It was a sealed book....NO SALVATION OR KINGDOM TILL TH WOMAN GIVES BIRTH...Thats when the Child is born the Manchild that spirit of truth....The only one who can reprove the world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.. The Prince of this world is not judged till the manchild the spirit of truth is Born in us sinners...Remember what Jesus said Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there IN....Which is the real New Birth via the seeds of that book that he wrote with his own blood....The Child is the H.G. that Child of Promise....The wheat is a baby Christ simply b/c the sower of that good seed is Christ the Bridegroom....Thats y he has to know us....Faith is a spiritual pregnancy.....The Child (the H.G.) is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....Whosoever receiveth one such child in MY NAME receiveth Me....Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man....Mankind is gonna have a baby the H.G...But no Salvation till the Child comes. Gbu

David0921....love ya my man.....But you are not understanding that the manchild which is the H.G. THE LIVING WORD is gonna rule all nations with a rod of iron..... Rev 12:5.....Jesus said unless you receive the KINGDOM of God as a lil CHILD you will in no wise enter there in.....Not the written word but the living word which is the gift of God the H.G.....Its only the H.G. that can reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....Not the bible per se the written word....Smite the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the lil ones....The babes and sucklings he mentions a New Covenant....our new hearts and new spirits....Its only the manchild the spirit of truth that can reprove this world of sin and Righteousness and Judgement....Not the written word.....As there are zillions of bibles in this world but the world is in deep darkness.....Churches on every corner but this world is in deep darkness....ppl just like you David that think that there is eternal life in the scriptures....The bible is not the gift of God its only the H.G. that is the gift of God and what he did at Calvary by his blood .....This is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it....There is a baby Christ in our near future, thats y he had to die when a seed dies it multiplies.....That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven thus the babes and sucklings an Israel of God.....Jesus did not leave us a bible he only left us a SEED an incorruptible SEED ....Which is the LIVING WORD NOT THE WRITTEN WORD...Unless the Lord of the Sabbath had left us a SEED we wd have been made like Sodom and Gomorrah...We have zillions of bibles and Churches on every corner but our world is exactly like Sodom and Gomorraah and ppl like you David are too blind to see it.....But listen to what Jesus is saying these things are HID from the wise and Prudent and Only revealed unto babes....Whosoever receiveth one such CHILD IN MY NAME RECEIVETH ME.

Lemme ramble just a bit about the COMFORTER Which is the H.G. the spirit of truth...the manchild that is gonna rule all nations And is gonna reprove the world of sin and Judgement and Righteousness....This can only happen by what Jesus did at Calvary by his blood.....The bible in its self....the written word cannot reprove the world of sin and Righteousness and Judgement.....There are zillions of bibles in this world but this world is getting more wicked and Evil every day....Its only by what Jesus did at Calvary in his blood that is gona reprove this world of Sin etc and judge the prince of this world satan.....Which is mans carnal minds satans seat

......Thats y Jesus is saying to search the scriptures in them you think you have Eternal life....But it is only them that bear witness of me....Which is only the H.G. the living word....Eternal life is only by his blood not in the scriptures the written words the bible.....All the bibles in the world can reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....And redeem mankind back to God....Only by Calvary that New Covenant can we be bornagain of his incorruptible seed which is the living word....That liveth and abideth for ever.....the living word the gift of the H.G....The CONTENTS of the book of life....That he wrote with his own blood.....All the bibles in this world can reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....Thats y Jesus is saying when he the spirit of truth is come ( the manchild the comforter) he will reprove the world of sin etc....But the manchild does not come till the woman gives birth....Then the Kingdom of God comes Rev.12:10....And Salvation.....But there is no kingdom or Salvation till after the Cross....After the woman gives birth ...When i see the blood i will pass over you remember that lil diddy ....There are zillions upon zillions of bibles in this world but this world is in deep darkness....Simply b/c there is no Eternal life in the scriptures.....only the blood...

David0921....Jesus is plainly telling us to search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is only them that testify of me....Which is the living word the H.G. that testifies of me.....David there is no eternal life in the scriptures, if there could have been eternal life in the scriptures then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness..... 2 Cor. 3:6 he has made us able ministers of the New Covenant not of the written word the letter a killer but of the spirit....Eternal life in only by his blood at. Calvary.....Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world.....We do not behold the scriptures the written words....WE only behold the lamb of God the living word that taketh away the sins of the world....And that book of life that he wrote with his own blood,....meaning living words....Living Spirits....We are not gonna be married to paper and ink the bible but only to Christ the living word.

.....The DEVIL reads the bible but that does not change his demonic Spirit....All of ISRAEL was sola scriptura...Bible only but Jesus tells them they were of their father the devil.....Its only by the blood of the lamb that we can be bornagain of his incorruptible seed....that liveth and abideth for ever....The living word which is the H.G. THE GIFT OF God....I love the kjv with all my heart....But it is only the living word the H.G. that is the gift of God...No eternal life in the scriptures per se.

Jesus said are there not 12 hrs in a day and 12 hrs in a night but if a man walks in the night he is gonna stumble.....David you are walking in the night when you think there is Eternal life in the scriptures the written words as John 5:39 tells us....Jesus tells us there is no eternal life in the scriptures the written words.....Eternal life in only by the New Covenant which is his blood he shed at Calvary....That resulted in the book in the right hand of the father THAT BOOK OF LIFE that Jesus wrote with his own.. blood

Hiya Jema...no offence....But leme give ya my slant on this 2 nd Child that Bathsheba had with David....The 1 st Child died symbolic of the 1 st child that was born by this relationship of Christ with the early Church....Which was Christianity that died in its infancy....Original Christianity was a beautiful Child but it was sick....We have not seen a child like Original Christianity for 2 k yrs But it died in its infancy....B/c the early Church had a husband which was the law....Thats y Paul said you are dead to the law by the body of Christ that you should be Married to another even to him that was raised from the dead... Romans 7 :4 ...Remember Bathsheba had to marry ANOTHER even David....My lil Children of whom i travail in birth AGAIN a 2 nd time till Christ is formed in you...At Horeb Moses married all Israel to the law....Saying this is what God has enjoined unto you....But You are dead to the law by the body of Christ....Bathsheba was dead to Uriah by the body of David....Eccle 4:15 I saw the 2 nd Child that shall rise up in his stead ( Christ stead) and there is no end to the ppl he shall be king over...Whosoever receiveth one such Child in MY name... the 2 nd Child.. The Woman in Rev. 12: 5 is giving birth to the 2 nd Child which is the H.G. the Children of PROMISE that are gonna be as the stars of heaven..Her 1 st Child Christianity died.... Micah 5 :3 Therefore shall he give them up till she that is in travail has given birth then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the Children of ISRAEL....Thats y Paul said when that which is perfect is come that which is done in parts will be done away with...We know in part and we prophesy in part but when that which is perfect is come (the 2 nd Child that spirit of truth) that is gonna reprove the world of sin and judgement and righteousness....The manchild is gona rule all nations with a rod of iron..which is the 2 nd child... the spirit of truth that is gona reprove the world of sin etc...The 2 nd Child.

David0921....I disagree with you in the spirit of love....The new heaven and new earth is simply our new hearts and new spirits....That New CREATURE....As Isaiah 66:22 says as the new heaven and the new earth shall remain so shall thy seed and name remain......The seed of the sower is gona form Christ in US.....Which is the gift of God the H.G. his NAME sake...Which is the Children of Promise....An Israel of God....My lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you....Which is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE.....David there is absolutely nothing wrong with this earth or the heavens.....Its mans evil adamic nature our Spirits that is satanic....Thats y Jesus said outa of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil.....Thats one of the reasons Jesus died was to destroy the works of the devil....All Sin is of the devil as John said....When he the spirit of truth is come he will reprove the WORLD of sin and Judgement and righteousness....Which is the womans Child of Rev 12:5....That is gonna rule all nations....Thats y God is telling us I will give them a new heart and a new spirit....Which is that New Covenant that Jesus gave us at Calvary.....The new book of life that Jesus wrote with his own blood....Whosoever was not found written in this book of life that Jesus wrote with his own blood at Calvary was cast into the lake of fire....As our God is a consuming fire....Which is baptism of the H.G. and FIRE....That y Jesus said every sinner has to have his part in the lake of fire.....As our God is a consuming fire that is gona consume mans adamic nature the kindling.....Thats y Jesus says he came to bring fire on the earth....But the new heaven and new earth is not literal.....Its just prophetic of our new hearts and new spirit....But the Kingdom is gonna be here on this earth....As Rev.11:15 says the Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ and he shall reign for ever and ever....And we shall reign on this earth.Gb

S. Spencer there is an element of truth in what you are saying.....There is another Israel coming but they are spirits as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the Israel of God.... Isaiah 49:10... and Rev.7:16.....Both say they will not hunger nor thirst ever. ....Nor will the sun or any heat lite on them......How cd this be possible simply b/c they are Spirits.....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the children of Promise....The Israel of God.... I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven thus spirits the H.G. I WILL POUR OUT OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH.... The good seed is the living word which is spirit and life thus the fruit the wheat has to be spirit which are the Children of Promise the H.G. That Child of Promise.....But we cannot be carnal minded or we will miss this great truth....There is an Israel of God on the Horizon but they are spirits...They are Our new hearts and new spirits....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me....Thats y Jesus said the Kingdom cometh not with observation.....Simply b/c they are Spirits the H.G. that is gonna be as the stars of heaven....An Israel of God....Remember 3 rd person Jacob's name was changed to Israel just prophetic that the Heavenly 3 rd person the H.G. IS the ISRAEL OF GOD....That is gonna be born in us sinners....That hear his words his good seeds.....Thats y he has to know us....The New Jerualem is heaveny meaning in the spiritual realm....But its gonna be right here on this earth....Rev.11:15 The kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ and he shall reign forever and ever....ok leme go....The manchild which is the H.G. the spirit of truth is gonna reprove this world of Sin and Righteousness and Judgement.....

David read Rev.12:5....The woman births the manchild which is the spirit of truth that is gonna rule all nations.....The spirit of truth is gonna reprove this world of sin and judgement and righteousness....Judgement means the Prince of this world (SATAN ) is gonna be judged thus the WORLD is gona be made clean by the manchild the H.G. That is gona rule all nations....Remember Isaiah 11:5...Knowledge is gonna cover this earth as the waters covers the seas....A lil one is gona become a 1000 and a small one a strong nation....I the Lord will hasten it in its time....An Israel of God is on the horizon soon as the Sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity.....The woman giving birth is humanity....Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains.

Several of the prophets saw the whole world at rest and full of his Glory..... Hebrews 12:22.....You are come unto Mt Sion the city of the living God, That HEAVENLY Jerusalem...To a hugh host of angels....But this city is with in us,...its the H.G. Which is the Kingdom of God....The Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace in the H.G..... Rev. 11:15....The Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ.....And has made us unto our GODS AS KINGS AND PRIEST that we shall reign on the earth.... Rev. 5 i think...ok gbu

Jesus said these things are hid from the wise and prudent but only revealed unto babes.... Mat. 11:25....Which is that born of the spirit the H.G. As we have born the image of the earthly we must also bear (birth) the image of the heavenly which is the H.G....Which is our new innerman that has to be born in us via the seed of the sower a spiritual Seed/being.....10 times in the New Testament its tells us about birthing a new innerman....Which is that New Creature the H.G.....But when something is Hid by God ...Nobody can find it....6 k yrs have gone by and the world don't understand this New Covenant of multiplication of Christ seed....Gen.22:17....I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven.....Thats y the sower has to go forth and sow his precious seed in humanity.....Resulting in the book being opened and us being bornagain of his incorruptible seed....The living word not the written word....Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains....We are gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G. That Child of Promise....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME....Why do we refer to the H.G. AS THE PROMISE?....Simply b/c the H.G. is the multiplication of Christ in us.....Remember the multiplication of Christ seed was that great Promise....God was so passionate about this multiplication of Christ that he swore by his very self....Thats when the woman in Rev 12:5 is giving birth to the Children of Promise....And thats when satan the dragon wants kill the woman and her Children.....Simply b/c its the manchild the H.G. the spirit of truth that Judges the prince of this world....Its the womans Child the H.G. that reproves this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement .....But the Child the spirit of truth cannot speak of himself simply b/c he has just been born in us....He is just a spritual infant....That New born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the H.G....The multiplication of Christ Jesus in us.....OK LEMME GO

Hiya Hammer63....There is gonna be more then one H.G.....When he breathe on them they all received the H.G.....He was propagating very God with his precious seed the living word....His breath was his words and his words are his seeds to Multiply himself in humanity.....Ya gotta keep in mind that Jesus is the bridegroom....Thats y he is saying to whom the word( his seed ) came it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken....As the gift of God is the H.G....That are gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitudes....Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man.....Mankind is gonna birth a Baby Christ which is the H.G.....Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit....Thats the H.G. that Children of Promise....Remember God almighty swore by his very self when he made that Promise of multiplication of Christ Seed.... thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word (The good seed came it made them Gods ) which is the H.G. the Children of Promise....I will pour out of my spirit (THE H.G.) on all flesh....Which is the gift of God that is gonna be as the stars of heaven....Bro. Hammer i am trying to help you....But this multiplication of Christ doctrine is hid from the wise and prudent and only revealed unto Babes and Sucklings....The H.G. are gonna be many, they are the Israel of God.....The babes and sucklings... behold me and the Children the lord has given ME.....That New Born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the gift of God the H.G.....The Children of PROMISE....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...Even in the natural a birth always implies a Child...We are gonna have a baby...The H.G. OK GBU