Discuss Zechariah 4

  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    Mat.5:5-Blessed are the meek:for they shall inherit the earth.

    Rev.5:10-And has made us unto our GOD kings and priests:and we shall reign on the earth.

    How can the meek inherit the earth?

    Zechariah 4:1-6

    1-And the angel that talked with me came again,and waked me, as a MAN that is wakened out of his sleep.

    2-And said unto me,What seest thou?I have looked,and behold

    (1)a candlestick all of gold

    (2)with a bowl upon the top of it, and

    (3)his seven lamps thereon, and

    (4)seven pipes to the seven lamps,which are upon the top thereof:

    3-And two olive trees by it,one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.

    Interpreting the above Scriptures:

    1-Candlestick is the Church(Rev.1:19)of the LORD-His body;

    2-with a bowl upon the top of it:-the bowl is for storing and conserving the oil produced by the two olive trees to the Candlestick-that is for the anointed Church of the LORD;

    3-and his seven lamps thereon:the seven lamps are the seven Spirits of GOD-Rev.4:5;

    4-and seven pipes to the seven lamps which are upon the top thereof(the 7 lamps are 7 spirits of GOD-they are placed on the top of the pipes to enlighten the Church of the LORD,mainly in this time of Apocalypse-END of the times,and establishment of GOD's Kingdom: but NOT by might,nor by power(not by human power),but by my Spirit,saith the Lord of hosts,as is written in Mat.5:5 combined with Rev.5:10)

    4-So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying,What are these,my lord?

    5-Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me,Knowest thou not what these be?And I said,No,my lord.

    6-Then he answered and spake unto me,saying,This is the Word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel,saying,Not by might,nor by power,but by my Spirit,saith the Lord of hosts.

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven,saying,The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of his Christ;and he shall reign for ever and ever.
  • Oseas - 10 months ago
    THE MEEK WILL INHERIT THE EARTH ?

    JESUS SAID:

    Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Mat.5:5

    And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Rev. 5:10

    Question:

    How can the meek inherit the earth?

    The answer is here: Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord of hosts- Zechariah 4:6

    Zechariah 4:1-6

    1 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a MAN that is wakened out of his sleep.

    2 And said unto me, What seest thou?

    And I said, I have looked, and

    behold (1) a candlestick all of gold

    with (2) a bowl upon the top of it,

    and (3) his seven lamps thereon,

    and (4)seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:

    3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.

    Interpreting the above Scriptures:

    1 Candlestick is the Church(Rev.1:19)of the LORD- His body;

    2 with a bowl upon the top of it: -the bowl is for storing and conserving the oil produced by the two olive trees to the Candlestick-that is for the anointed Church of the LORD;

    3 and his seven lamps thereon:-the seven lamps are the seven Spirits of God-Rev.4:v.5;

    4 and seven pipes to the seven lamps which are upon the top thereof: the 7 lamps -7 spirits of GOD- are placed on the top of the pipes to enlighten the Church of the LORD mainly in this time of Apocalypse -the END of the times and establishment of GOD's Kingdom Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord of hosts, and confirmed by Mat.5:5 combined with Revelation 5:10, among other biblical references.

    4 So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these my lord?

    5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No my lord.

    6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying,This is the Word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of hosts.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 10 months ago
    To everyone that has been following this conversation

    In Chris last point, he has a solid reasoning concerning the Scriptures that we now possess.

    Yet, none of the translations are 100% accurate, one says the meaning is this, & another says no, its this.

    Ephesians 4:5; & He's the John 1;1; is Christ divided? Look back in history & take note how much blood was shed because of this division of the Word. Is this not turning Christ words against His works. The Lord is One.

    Reading over the whole of our conversation, the intent I purpose to reveal was not the discrediting of the Scriptures, but that they are spiritually discerned. That man un-regenerated heart Jeremiah 17:9, would shun the cross & choose another method than ordain of God to know him. & lets keep in mind that the Scriptures are only 2Timothy 3:16; the Strong's Complete Exhausted Concordance, etc; is not! Though ever so skillfully endeavored. Man has turn this note worthy endeavor into a replacement of Him. The promise is that God will teach His people Himself, Isa 54:13; the results; we come to know Him, a personal intimate fellowship; 1John 1:1-3; This has been God's heart desire from the beginning & only by coming in the Way that He has provided will make this a reality, along with all His other promises. We must look to His Spirit John 16:13, Zechariah 4:6;

    In love & truth

    Frankie J
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 3 - 1 year ago
    Renee,

    Revelation Chapter 1 tells us that the seven Spirits was the sevenfold Spirit of God. Revelation 4:5, along with Revelation 5:6 tells us that the sevenfold Spirit of God represent His eyes, the all- knowing and the all-seeing God.

    Also, in Zechariah 4:10, it tells us that the seven Spirits are the seven eyes of God.

    He that has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars, from Verses 4 and 16 of Chapter 1.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Zechariah 6 - 1 year ago
    They seem to be Zechariah 1:8-10, Zechariah 6:2,

    Possibly Revelation 6:4, context Revelation 6, & context Zechariah 1,

    Please pray for wisdom James 1:5,

    They seem to be walking to & fro, Zechariah 1:10,11,

    Bay horses are reddish brown, Grizzled- speckled , Zechariah 6:7

    2Chronicles 16:9, Zechariah 4:10,

    But also Job 1:7, Job 2:2,

    Psalms 139, for encouragement

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 5 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 5: Focus on the seven Spirits of God.

    Revelation 4:5 also discusses the seven Spirits of God along with Revelation 5:6. Apparently; Isaiah 11:2 is a commonly referred to cross reference; although technically it involves 6 ministries under the Lord Himself (as the 7th); it does fit in a sort of Menorah picture of how the Spirit operates in the entire corporate Body. We see a further description in Zechariah 4:2-3 of this source (apparently now in heaven); and the two prophets that tap into this power as witnesses throughout the earth in the end times. That can be studied further in Revelation 11.

    It would seem that the seven spiritual gifts also would be in play here as to the emphasis given to a given church. This would be seen in Romans 12:6-8. In general; it seems that there are certain strengths and weaknesses that are commonplace depending on what gifts we have and that could factor into the overall situation as to the state of a congregation; what trials a particular congregation may or may not be called to suffer; doctrinal errors that creep in; etc. It is important to see the interdependence here so that the church isn't imbalanced

    ( 1 Cor. 12:14-16). In fact; we also see seven gifts listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8-11. It is important to differentiate between the fruit of the Spirit (love; joy; peace; longsuffering; etc) in Galatians 5:22-22 which characterizes the lives of all true believers and the particular ministries they have. We can't have one without the other. The common thread; of course is the love of God and brethren as seen in John 13:34-35; and reflected in 1 Corinthians 13 (entire chapter). Apparently; gifts can operate even with immature saints just as some could believe at one time without understanding the indwelling Holy Spirit such in Acts 19:1-4.

    In conclusion; God distributes as He will or "severally" ( 1 Cor. 12:11). In obedience because we love Christ ( John 14:15) we have the right attitude to grow.
  • Luke - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Okay,

    Jesus was raised a transfigured body i. e. resplendent with a divine brightness.

    1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood are not able to inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption [decay and ruin] inherit incorruption.

    The disciples were told by two Angels ---- so come in like manner, as in, come down the way He went up, (from the Mount of Olives) as in, coming in the cloud, as He, was received by the cloud, visible, unexpected, save by those looking for Him, in the clouds of heaven, and to the same place whence He departed, Zechariah 14-4 .

    Jesus didn't ascended on a White Horse, but He returns on one, I guess the two Angels forgot to mention that.

    Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him (out of their sight.)

    Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

    Zechariah 4:4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of

    Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley [between the northern and southern half of Olivet]; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
  • Christopher murray - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Continued:

    Yehshua also said Revelation 6:11

    "And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

    so for those who think they are going to be whisked away are deluded to think so. Understand the rapture is at the END of the Millennium the 1000 years.

    only those saved during the tribulation will have our Creators MARK IN THEIR FOREHEADS (Mind) basically what you believe to be true.

    Revelation 7:3

    "Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." 144,000 first fruits

    i believe from scripture that number of first fruits is 153 the parable of the fish caught in the net John 21:11

    I believe the number gathered is 33.333% of the world population

    Jeremiah 31:34

    "And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

    These are the people that the ALMIGHTY will protect under HIS WINGS during the tribulation.

    Yehshua said in MATTHEW Elijah will come first RESTORE ALL THINGS? Before HIS COMING?

    WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS BEING RESTORED? His Laws, His Statues, His Judgements, His Sabbath and holy set apart days the world are ignorant to or deceived into worshiping on the wrong days!!! of course HE allowed for all this to happen, because His Word tells us this would happen. Matthew 15:9

    "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

    the 7 year tribulation is a LIE so is a THIRD TEMPLE BEING BUILT LIES!!!!!. YOU, WE are the Temple, Yehshua is the Head He was also our Creators first witness

    you need to understand Zechariah 4:14
  • T Levis - In Reply on Zechariah 4:6 - 1 year ago
    Golden candlestick: Zechariah 4:2-6, Proverbs 20:27,

    Exodus 25:31,32, placement, Exodus 26:35, Leviticus 24:4, Hebrews 9:1-28,

    Jeremiah 52:19,

    Matthew 5:14-16,

    Revelation 1:12-20, Revelation 2:1-5, Revelation 11:3-4, Revelation 22,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 1 year ago
    Roy,

    Revelation 1:4 says from the seven Spirits which are before His, that is, God's throne;

    There are two schools of thought on this. Please know that the number seven doesn't necessarily mean there are seven Spirits.

    In the Bible, seven represents completeness, perfection.

    The Jews take it as a Hebraism. RASHI, one of the greatest Jewish scholars uses Isaiah 11:1-2 to show that what John is using is a Hebraism to denote the seven fold Spirit of God. It means the Spirit of God is complete and perfect.

    But what specifically is he making reference to?

    In Revelation 4:5, we see the same thing when we study what the throne is like in heaven.

    It says and out of the throne proceed lightnings, and thunderings, and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

    In Revelation Chapter 5, the chapter where we see this scroll with seven seals on it, which is the title deed to the earth, and the call goes out who is worthy to take the scroll and loosen the seals thereof.

    And no one was found worthy in heaven. And John began to weep. And he was told don't weep, the Lamb of God is worthy.

    And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth.

    The seven eyes of Christ are the seven Spirits. So it represents completeness, perfection.

    But its application is to the Lord's seeing. You see, he's talking about the all-encompassing Spirit who sees all things, and knows all things. That's the way the Jews understood it.

    The scripture reference is Zechariah 4:10 which talks about these seven eyes, meaning that God sees perfectly and completely all things. And so John is using a Hebraism here.

    Hope this helps!
  • Ronnette on Zechariah 4:6 - 1 year ago
    "And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:" Zechariah 4:2 KJV

    Does anybody know who or what country has the golden candlestick in today's account? We all know it was in the tabernacle then.
  • Roman - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 2 years ago
    Marke,

    The secret to knowing who the saints are is as easy as identifying who the two olive trees, and the two lampstands are. The two prophets/witnesses are described as "the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks that stand before the God of the earth". Olive trees and candlesticks have always been used to describe the house of Israel and the house of Judah. These are the 144,000 from the house of Israel, and the house of Judah, sealed from death for 42 months, at the 6th trumpet. Together, they are the whole house of Israel, witnesses to antichrists' exploits between the 6th & 7th trumpets.



    Zechariah 4:14

    Jeremiah 11:16

    Psalm 52:8
  • Dondi - In Reply on Matthew 5 - 2 years ago
    Revelations 11:4 speaks of two witnesses the 2 olive trees and 2 candlesticks. Zechariah 4:1-14 lets you know a olive tree is Gods people Romans 11:13:24 tells you that the original olive tree is Israel the wild olive tree is the gentiles. They both have to be graphed into the root. A candlestick is a church look at Revelations 1:20. These two groups will receive a power like never before to preach the truth to the whole world during the tribulation. They will have a warrior type power like Moses or Elijah. They will be the enemy of this world but for the first 3.5 years nobody will be able to stop them. Then they will be killed and the world will be happy but then they live again in front of people. God proves once again that he is the only God. Not everybody that says I believe will enter the kingdom of heaven. Some of these people God will say part from me I never knew you. If you read revelations chapters 2 and 3 you will see that there were and are two types of churches that God approves, the other 5 he does not.
  • Dondi - 2 years ago
    The two witnesses in revelations 11:4 are two groups during the tribulation the olive trees Zechariah 4:1-14 lets you know that the olive tree is Gods people. Romans 13-24 lets you know that it is jew and gentile one being the original olive tree and the gentile being the wild olive tree. Both has to be graphed into the root. The two candlesticks are churches you see this in revelations 1:20. These two witnesses will have power like never before during the tribulation. a WARRIOR type power like Moses and Elijah had. Because of this they will be a enemy to the world they will not comply to satans tactics and will preach the truth so the whole world can hear it. Then sometime in this 7 year tribulation they will be killed and the world will love it. But they come back to life in front of people and make them very scared God proves once again he is the only way. There will be no excuse this time, everyone gets the truth and will decide who they serve.
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 5 - 2 years ago
    Hello Darlene. The "Trinity" is a big subject, but I'll give the basics for understanding it, even though it's full meaning remains beyond our limited minds. The word itself is nowhere found in the Bible; it is however used to describe God's Nature in the best way we can. "Trinity", or in another way, 'a state of being threefold' best expresses what God has revealed to us of Himself. You will also hear of: Godhead or Triunity - these also mean the same thing.

    We believe that there is only One God: Isaiah 44:6, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his (Jacob's) redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Those who believe in the Trinity, do not believe in three gods - only One. However, throughout the Scriptures, especially in the New Testament, God reveals His Nature to us more fully. Just as we have immaterial parts within us (i.e. spirit & soul), so God is revealed to us by His Spirit & His Word. Zechariah 4:6 shows us both of these: ("Then he (the angel) answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the WORD of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my SPIRIT, saith the LORD of hosts).

    Even as God is One God, in the unity of the Godhead there are three eternal, coequal entities (also referred to as Persons) Who are same in substance but distinct in subsistence. Both God's Word & Spirit have always reached out & ministered to people, whether through the mouths of the prophets or by special dealing with God's people. But that Word that was once spoken by the prophets to Israel, is now given to all of us through Jesus ( Hebrews 1:1-3). So the Spirit we know, but Who is Jesus? John 1:1-14 tells us that the Word that was that very part or substance of God, God has sent to Earth clothed in humanity, for "the suffering of death" - God came to us in the flesh, by His Word, for the salvation of sinners. See also Matthew 28:19 & 2 Corinthians 13:14 for expressions of the Triune God.
  • LEON DAVIS - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jonathan Taylor, obviously you do not believe that the Holy Bible is the inspired Word of God because you are casting dispersions on the veracity of its content. I am curious whether you are a Christ follower, for it is impossible for one to call himself a Christian and not consider the Holy Bible to be Truth, every word of it!

    Zechariah 4:1-3; 11-14 and Revelation 11:7 speak of the two witnesses; not Revelation 7. Also, with a high degree of probability, the two witnesses are Moses and Elijah, for they were with Christ on the Mount of Transfiguration ( Matt. 17:1-3), and performed the supernatural acts mentioned in Revelation 11:5-6.
  • Matthew Chege on Zechariah 4 - 3 years ago
    Your Comment...Indeed Zachariah Is Given A Very Great Revelation Of Gods Program On Planet Earth. The Seven Lamps Are The Seven Churches Of Asia Minor Which Represent Seven Church Ages Of The New Testament Era.- Rev 1:20 The Last Church Age Being Laodicea Which Is Neither Hot Nor Cold. The Two Olive Branches Are The Two Witnesses Of Rev 11 Who Should Appear This Endtime To gather The 144k Jews. These Are Moses And Elijah.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Zechariah 4:6 - 3 years ago
    Revelation 19

    Verse 8 and verse 14, Match.

    Starting at verse 7, it is revealed WHO rides with the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords!!!



    The chapter ends with the Beast and the false prophet being cast into the Lake of Fire.

    Know what? I'm going to be there.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Zechariah 4:6 - 3 years ago
    Why do you think it's your job to pose questions that only cause striving?

    You're not as transparent as you imagine.

    I'm not accusing; just observing. :D
  • Rob - In Reply on Zechariah 4:6 - 3 years ago
    This was the question Christians at the time of this new doctrine of the rapture of the church , back in the 1800s asked . I think it's a tough one since all saints are removed to heaven , yet the true solders must fight the Antichrist? Seems kind contradicting to me , how about you ?

    So if all the saints are removed , then some how people get saved and are able to do battle with the Antichrist? Seems kinda far fetched to me !
  • Chris - In Reply on Zechariah 4:6 - 3 years ago
    Zechariah 4:6 and Matthew 24:13 have those words but not together as you seek.
  • Jerry Ann Gradford on Zechariah 4:6 - 3 years ago
    Hello! Where is the scripture in the King James Version that states, "It is not by power not by strength but to those who endures to the end.
  • Chris - In Reply on Haggai 1 - 3 years ago
    There were actually three Temples recorded:

    a. Solomon's Temple ( 1 Kings 5:3-6:1 & 6:37-38). The King of Tyre supplied the timber & workmen for this work which took seven years in building.

    b. Zerubbabel's Temple ( Ezra 1, 3, 6). This temple was instigated & authorized by Cyrus in 538 BC but the work ceased because of Samaritan opposition & discouragement of many of the Jews. In 515 BC, the work was finally completed by Zerubbabel & Joshua after being encouraged to do so by the prophets Haggai & Zechariah to take up the unfinished work. ( Ezra 4:24-5:2; Haggai 1:1-2:9; Zechariah 4:7-10). But this temple wasn't as extravagant as Solomon's. This temple was plundered & desecrated by Antiochus Epiphanes in 169 BC.

    c. Herod's Temple. In about 20 BC, Herod the Great undertook to reconstruct the Temple with its surrounding courts & buildings. Most of the construction took about ten years to complete, but work was still going on while Jesus walked on the Earth & later. And this temple was destroyed by Emperor Titus of Rome in AD 70 & its furnishings & treasures carried off to Rome.

    There is no biblical reference to another temple being built as Jesus Himself said, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." ( John 2:19), referring to His Body & three days later, His resurrection. And as you said, that we are the Temple of the Holy Ghost ( 1 Corinthians 6:19), so the old temple was destroyed (first by the rending of the vail & then by Titus), which ushered in the New Covenant with the Temple within us. There are references to the Temple in Heaven but in the New Jerusalem, there will be no need for one, as "the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." ( Revelation 21:22).

    Present day Jews want another Temple to be built, some wanting the institution of sacrifices as well, & others, not. Yet, 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 indicates that anti-Christ will one day sit in the temple showing himself to be God, so one can only guess on that one.
  • Richard in Christ on Zechariah 4 - 3 years ago
    Has anyone been interested to read through the book of Enoch?
  • Rob - In Reply on Zechariah 4 - 3 years ago
    The anointed one is referred often to the Lord Jesus that was anointed By God for service with the Holy Spirit !

    At his baptism, also pay attention to who God said Jesus is , His Son .
  • Mishael - In Reply on Zechariah 4 - 3 years ago
    Zechariah 4:14

    14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
  • Susan on Zechariah 4 - 3 years ago
    Who or what is the anointed one the the holy bible
  • BSP on Zechariah 4 - 3 years ago
    Verses 6 and 7 bring out that only with Jehovah God can Israel accomplish anything.
  • Julie on Zechariah 4:10 - 3 years ago
    I am not sure why this phrase is here, "Despise not the day of small things....."
  • Vanessa on Zechariah 4 - 4 years ago
    Jesus the good Olive, the Olive branch, the Holy Spirit, and the oil, grace that flows to us all in Christ, and we strive daily to become spiritually
    closer and closer to him, die to our fleshly ways, so we may be worthy of redemption. God Bless


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