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  • Richard H Priday - in Reply
    The earlier comment would be true in regard of course to the two witnesses who the whole world sees dying and being resurrected. It is fairly clear that even in hades in the past communication existed between individuals (Lazarus and the rich man); and such events are also seen in the Transfiguration and indeed throughout Revelation where the saints of God are asking "how long" when still in a spirit form under the altar. There is also some time element here; eventually even those in hell will all come out of their graves for the "Great White Throne Judgment" and the saints of God of course are Raptured/Resurrected before that. (although some eschatologies think it happens all at once at that time).

    We could; of course look to many "near death" and death documentaries. We can't validate the theological aspects of all types of experiences as true but there is a rather uniform description of having vision of all things around them (360 degree aspect) in many accounts. Physically; of course those who are still physically alive at His return will see Him come (as lightning goes from the east to the west). ( Matthew 24:27). We also have Hebrews 9:27; as well as other verses showing that we all stand before God immediately after death ( 2 Cor. 5:6 also). We have all tribes mourning when He comes back to earth ( Zechariah 12:12).

    There seem to be some verses saying that places that have neither heard of his fame or seen His glory ( Isaiah 66:20) will do so and that implies during the Millennial reign (according to my eschatological view). So there may be a process until all see Him at least those still alive physically when He comes. Nonetheless; God is beyond time and sees all things in that perspective.

    (Also God created all the physical aspects of creation so certainly rules over it and can supercede things as all the miracles TRULY of God attest).

    Hope this helps. Agape. Rich P.
  • ELB
    Amen Brother Alex;

    This is for the ones reading our comments.

    Zechariah 12:6 And in that day .....

    The DAY of the LORD, when it became possible TO BE GIVEN eternal life, THE FIRST RESURRECTION.

    John 11:25 .....I am the resurrection, and the LIFE ....

    This DAY has been going on for 2000 years.

    Zechariah 12:6 And in (the first hour of) that day will I make the governors of Judah (OLD SAINTS) like a hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in (NEW) Jerusalem.

    Zechariah 12:7 The LORD also shall save (resurrection to LIFE) the tents of Judah (Old Saints) FIRST, that the glory of the house of David (NEW SAINTS) and the glory of the inhabitants of (NEW)Jerusalem do not magnify themselves (the NEW SAINTS) against Judah (the OLD SAINTS).

    Zechariah 12:8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of (NEW) Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David as God, as (the likeness) of the angel of the Lord before them (OLD and NEW SAINTS).

    God Bless YOU!
  • Chris - in Reply
    Page 3.

    If the Spirit speaks to one to keep Sabbath as a rest day, then to that person they should abide - but to another, the Sabbath was not given to Gentiles & any day can be for rest & also for worship ( Romans 14:5,6 & the whole chapter).

    Gentile? If you have no Jewish heritage, then you fall under the Gentile category. If the Gentile has not received the Law, he is a law unto himself ( Romans 2:14,15). Of course, all peoples are under governmental law, unless they're hidden away from society. But for both the Jewish Christian & Gentile Christian, the old Law has no more application or binding, for we are now subject to the Law of the Spirit. I don't believe that anyone with the Holy Spirit within them would ever be led to murder, commit fornication, & other sins. If a believer does sin, then he's going against the Spirit's ministry & appealing to his flesh (& this is why Paul spoke of crucifying the flesh ( Galatians 5:24,25)).

    Jew? When I wrote, 'Jewish convert', I meant that such a person still retains his Jewish heritage/bloodline, but has relinquished all that kept him bound to his faith (Judaism), finding forgiveness of sins, new life & liberty through the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Jews today still await the Messiah, but Jesus came, but they refused Him & crucified Him ( John 1:10-14). But the day will come when they will acknowledge Jesus ( Zechariah 12:10,11; Revelation 1:7,8). People have in the past become Jewish proselytes, embracing Judaism, its Laws & Practises ( Exodus 12:48,49; Acts 2:10; Acts 6:5; Acts 13:43). I hope that I've covered all your questions; if you have other questions feel free to start a new thread. Blessings.
  • ELB - in Reply on Psalms 82
    Manuel: The day of the Lord began when John the Baptist came preaching the kingdom of God is at hand.

    This ONE DAY, a day called TODAY has been going on now for two thousand years.

    Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day (of the Lord), that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

    We are somewhere inside the hours of that day now and the light is neither clear, nor dark.

    Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time (the end of that day and the beginning of the next day) IT SHALL BE LIGHT.

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are THE TEMPLE OF IT.

    Revelation 21:23 And the city (you are the new Jerusalem), had no need of the sun, neither the moon, to shine in it; for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

    Zechariah 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah FIRST, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of (new) Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

    Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

    Matthew 27:53 And came put of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem, and appeared to many (as ministering spirits).

    Zachariah 12:8 And in that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of (new) Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David (Christ); and the house of David (Christ) shall be as God, as (the image of) the angle of the LORD before them.

    GBU
  • Chris - in Reply
    CE. You stated, "God uses anti-christ to remove His backsliding people (modern day Israel)" & you referred to Ezekiel 38:1-17. Then Ezekiel 38:18-23 shows what God does to 'magnify & sanctify Himself before many nations' (v23), & that is, to overwhelm Gog (the nations from the North & elsewhere who come against God's people). Israel are indeed a "backsliding people", but God is about to show the world that Israel is still to be preserved & that one day (maybe after they see God's dealing with them) they will finally return to Him & ultimately to the Messiah ( Ezekiel 39:21-29; Zechariah 12:9-11).
  • Jesse - in Reply on Joel 1
    Ray,

    Romans 11:26 tells us that all Israel shall be saved. Now, that does not mean that every single Israelite, past, present, and future is going to be saved. It means that when Christ comes (After the fullness of the Gentiles), which is a time period from Pentecost until the Rapture of the church, but when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, there will be a Tribulation Period.

    And then afterwards, when Christ comes at His second coming, those Jews who are on the earth will be saved, approximately one third of them that began the tribulation period. It says "As it is written, there shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob.

    It goes on further in Romans 11:27, which is the fulfilment of the prophecy given to us in Isaiah 59:21 and Zechariah 12:10. All of these tell us that when Christ comes, they (the Jews) are going to look on Him whom they have pierced, and He is going to take away all of their sins. This will come at Christ's second coming. At Jesus' second coming, every Jew who is still alive on this earth will be saved!
  • Pamela - in Reply on Isaiah 11
    This is what I understand to be true after doing a little reading in my study bible.

    The Davidic kingdom to be restored by Christ : it's character and extent

    Isaiah 11 This chapter is a prophetic picture of the glory of the future kingdom, which will be set up when David's son returns in glory.

    Luke 1: 31-32; Acts 15:15-16

    Isaiah 11:9 -10 They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain,

    For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD

    As waters cover the sea.

    "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,

    Who shall stand as a banner to the people;

    For the Gentiles shall seek Him,

    And His resting place shall be glorious."

    How Crist will set up the kingdom

    Isaiah 11:11-12

    It shall come to pass in that day

    That the LORD shall set His hand again the second time

    To recover the remnant of

    His people who are left,

    From Assyria and Egypt,

    From Pathros and Cush,

    From Elam and Shinar,

    From Hamath and the islands of the sea. He will set up a banner for the nations,

    And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,

    And gather together the dispersed of Judah

    From the four corners of the earth.

    Habakkuk 2:14

    For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD As waters cover the sea.

    Zechariah 12:8 "In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the LORD before them."

    The moral characteristics of the kingdom are to be righteousness and peace. The meek, not the proud , will inherit the earth; longevity will be greatly increased; the knowledge of the LORD will be universal;

    beast-ferocity will be removed;

    absolute equity will be enforced; and open sin will be visited with instant judgement; whereas the enormous majority of earth's inhabitants will be saved Psalms 2:9; Isaiah 11:4,6-9; 26:9; 65:20; Zacharia 14:16-21

    The NT Revelation 20:1-5 adds a detail of immence significance
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Brother Chris, you are correct I will have a hard time convincing people that he was speaking to the church, because they don't BELIEVE that ALL MEN are God's CHURCH.'

    Judah was the only one that had five brothers, so this was addressed to the house of JUDAH, creation is the PROMISED SEED of the house of JUDAH.

    Zechariah 12:7 And the Lord shall save the TENTS OF JUDAH FIRST......

    They don't believe that God is capable of saving all men.

    They don't believe Christ was SENT to be the SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD.

    BELIEF is BELIEVING all God's words, even devils believe there's a God. Christ is THE WORD, ALL WORDS, if you reject that Christ is not going to save all men as he says he will, you are rejecting the WORD.

    So we see that they could not enter in because of UNBELIEF.

    The CHURCH in the wilderness BELIEVED in GOD, but the did not BELIEVE what he SAID, they lost out because of UNBELIEF.

    Eve (WOMAN) suffered death, not because she didn't believe in God, but because she did not BELIEVE what God SAID.

    If I be lifted up I will draw ALL MEN to me.

    UNBELIEF is the ONLY sin not covered by the blood of CHRIST.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Sister GiGi, Jesus always had to take the disciple aside and explain the parables to them, because it's NOT GIVEN to the multitudes. When he was with them in Matthew 5 it was only him and the 12, no multitude.

    This is the problem today, Jesus is ONLY calling out those CHOSEN to be priest in the coming kingdom on earth. Man doesn't believe this. He takes you, the called out, aside and teaches you, not the multitudes.

    God is going to follow the shadow of the Old Testament. FIRST Passover, SECOND Feast of the weeks or feast of firstfruits (Pentecost) and LAST, feast of the ingathering (final harvest). A FEW are being called and chosen now to be labours in the final harvest. Only the wheat and rye were first ripe and ready to harvest at the feast of weeks (Pentecost)(we are still in the feast of the weeks). All the rest of the harvest weren't mature until the feast of ingathering.

    Zechariah 12:7 The Lord shall also save the tents of Judah FIRST.....

    The New covenant PRIESTHOOD is out of the house of Judah, the Old covenant priesthood was of the house of Levi.

    Everything that happened in the old will happen in the new.

    Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been IS NOW; and that WHICH IS TO BE hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

    God Bless us as we mature in the WORD.
  • Earl Bowman
    THE TRUE ISRAEL

    In the Old Testament Israel was the CHURCH, a shadow of the coming true CHURCH.

    Christ is the CHURCH, Christ is the promised ISRAEL through Isaac.

    Christ SAID, destroy this CHURCH and in three days I will RAISE it up.

    If you bear CHRIST IN YOU, you are the true house of Israel.

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house (church), whose house (church) we are......

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the LAMB are the TEMPLE OF IT.

    Matthew 19:28 .....ye shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Zechariah 12:7 And I will save the tents of Judah FIRST...

    The new covenant PRIESTHOOD comes from the tribe of Judah, the old covenant priesthood came from the tribe of Levi.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Sister GiGi, here are more scriptures that say we are going to be gods. In the Hebrew text the words were never capitalised.

    Exodus 7:1 And the Lord SAID unto Moses, See, I HAVE MADE thee a god unto Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

    Joshua 22:22 The LORD God of gods, the LORD God of gods ......

    Psalms 82:6 I have SAID ye are gods, children of the most high.

    Psalms 86:8 Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord, neither are there any works like unto thy works.

    Psalms 95:3 For the Lord is a great God, and a great king above all gods.

    Psalms 97:7 Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boost themselves of idols, worship him, all ye gods.

    Psalms 97:9 For thou, Lord, art high above the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods.

    Psalms 136:2 Give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy endureth forever.

    Psalms 138:1 I will praise the with my whole heart; before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.

    Zechariah 12:7 The Lord also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

    Zechariah 12:8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the HOUSE OF DAVID shall be as God, as (the image of) the angel of the lord (that is) before them (the gods).
  • Chris - in Reply
    The prophecy in Zechariah 8:20-23 speaks of the future time, in the Millenium period, when Israel, who once rejected God & His Messiah, will truly come to know Him & adore Him. Such will be their joy & testimony, that even the nations around will be aware of this change & the blessings upon them - the heathen will "come to seek the LORD of Hosts in Jerusalem & to pray before the LORD" (v22). They will even cling to Israel in the future (v23), when once Israel was a hated & despised people.

    In Daniel 11:32 however, we see an earlier part of Jewish history; verses 21-35 speaks of a Grecian King, Antiochus IV Epiphanes (career from 175-164 BC), who made several expeditions into Egypt (vv24-27), & then turned his hatred onto Israel (v28). In venting his anger upon the Jews, Antiochus declared the Mosaic ceremonies illegal & erected in the Holy Place a statue of Zeus (v31). Some Jews resisted him & were martyred (vv32,33). As evil as this king was to the Jews, we also get a picture of this king's antitype, in the Anti-Christ who will once again come upon the Jews (vv36-45). Here again, the Jews will suffer badly for their rejection of the True God & His Christ, but will one day in the future, will worship Him through the Name above all names, & as we read in the Zechariah portion, they will be mighty witnesses for Christ Jesus.

    So these two passages show how hard the hearts of Israel are & the change coming. Despite so many prophetical warnings, as well as the Son of God presenting Himself to them to alert them, making God real before their eyes, even giving His Life for them, they still remained blinded & deaf to the patient Call of God. But one day they will know & see the One Whom they pierced ( Zechariah 12:10; Revelation 1:7) & full blessing will be restored to them, as even to those who call on Jesus now.
  • Murray Codorwel Vengethasamy - in Reply on Exodus 3:15
    Examine what is going on in the world and read Matthew 24 in conjunction with Luke 17, Zechariah 12 and Daniel 11 & 12.

    Remember what JESUS said in John 6:63 : "It is the Spirit who gives life, the flesh profits nothing.The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life"

    My advice to you : Do not submit to the opinions and doctrines of men (flesh), believe JESUS (WORD OF GOD)

    Amen
  • Part 3 some scriptures concerning the Grace of God - in Reply on Acts 1
    "This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears" Luke 4:21

    "Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts" Hebrew 4:7

    "Behold, now is the accepted time, now is the day of salvation" 2 Corinthians 6:2

    "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation." Hebrews 2:3

    "And God is able to make all grace abound toward you" 2 Corinthians 9:8

    "The goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance" Romans 2:4

    "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone" Ephesians 2:19-20

    "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that these ye might be partakers of the divine nature" 2Peter 1:4

    "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" Titus 2:11-14

    "the spirit of grace and supplications" Zechariah 12:10

    "For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing" Romans 7:18

    "But by the grace of God I am what I am" 1 Corinthians 15:10

    "This is the true grace of God wherein ye stand" 1Peter 5:12

    "Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life" Revelation 2:10

    "He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved" Matthew 24:13

    "See that ye abound in this grace" 2 Corinthians 8:7

    "Grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" 2Peter 3:18

    "For God resisteth the proud and giveth grace to the humble." 1 Peter 5:5
  • Chris - in Reply on Mark 3:29
    The following portions of Scripture relate to the coming day when the Jews will recognize their Messiah, the One they first rejected - and still do.

    Romans 11:25-27: "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." And verse 26 cross references to Isaiah 59:20,21.

    Zechariah 12:10: "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
  • Medical Explanation of Jesus39s Death - in Reply on 1 John 5
    John 19:31-34

    The bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??

    Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

    The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.

    In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.

    This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.

    Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.
  • The Medical Explanation Of Jesus39s Death - in Reply on John 3:16
    John 19:31-34 So the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??

    Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

    The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.

    In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.

    This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.

    Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.

    Mishael
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Naya,

    The people mentioned in Matthew 24:29 to the end of the chapter that Christ is going to gather are Jews, not the church. The word "Tribes" in Verse 30 is very important. That tells us that we are talking about Jewish people. It is a Jewish term. All the tribes of the earth shall mourn. And they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. All the tribes! Again, that would be Jews.

    In Revelation Chapter 1 Verse 7, it tells us that every eye will see Him, even those who have pierced Him. Zechariah 12:10 is a prophecy that the Jews hold to, only they don't understand its application. It says that when Messiah comes, they will look upon Him whom they have pierced.

    So at this time when Christ comes, at His second coming, the Jews who are left on the earth, they are going to mourn, and they are going to look and go "Oh no, we crucified our Messiah, and here He is!" The Jews are going to recognize Him.

    Verse 31 also uses a keyword, and that is the word "elect." It tells us that when Christ does come, He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet. I'll share some technical information with you to show you how good this passage really is:

    He is going to send His angels out with a great sound of a Shofar. It's a ram's horn. In the Greek text, the word "sound" is in brackets, which means it has been added to the text by some unseen person who doesn't understand the fact that the word "great" modifies the trumpet. It is called a great Shofar.

    The prophecy is in Isaiah Chapter 27 Verses 12 and 13. It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people (The Jews) from the four corners of the earth. So that is very important because that's also a prophecy that the Jews looked for. It says He is going to gather them together, His elect, that would be the Jews, from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.

    Running out of space, I will send a Part 2:
  • Jesse - in Reply on Matthew 24:38
    (Part 1)

    Tim,

    I would like to share with you my understanding of Matthew Chapter 24. Matthew Chapters 24 and 25 deal with the end-time prophecies. There are four sections in Chapter 24 that represent the 70th week of Daniel.

    Section 1: "The Pains of Birth" Verses 4-14. Section 2: Matthew 24:15 is "The Pivotal Point." Section 3: Matthew 24:16-28, "The Perils of Tribulation." And then fourthly, Verses 29 to 31 is "The Promise of His Coming," given to us in Isaiah 13:10 and 34:4, Joel 2:10 and 3:15, 7:13, Isaiah 27:13, and Zechariah 12:10.

    Beginning at verse 3 of Chapter 24, the disciples are looking for answers as to when these things are going to happen. Jesus then begins answering, and from Verses 4-14, He gives the details of the first 3-1/2 years of the tribulation, known as the pains of birth. In Verse 15, we have the pivotal point, the abomination of desolation.

    Then in Verse 16, we see that Jesus is talking to Jewish believers. Actually, I believe the entire Chapter is given to Jewish believers. But Jesus tells them to flee. Verses 16 to 28 talk about the perils of tribulation, the last 3-1/2 years of the 7 year Tribulation period. It's going to be a very severe time.

    Verse 22 is showing us that if God did not have a time period when He says okay I am going to stop, everybody would be wiped out.

    But for the sake of the elect, a special word brought over from the O.T. as a title for the Jewish people. They are His elect people. It doesn't mean they are all saved but they are His chosen people. He realizes there are 144,000 of them out there, plus all the others who believed, and this is something that is going to happen in the last part of the tribulation period.

    Verses 29-31, we have the promise of His coming. I recently shared the actual 7 Steps of a Jewish Wedding. If we understand those 7 steps, it helps to understand the coming of Christ and some of the Jewish views about when Christ is coming back. Those steps are fascinating!
  • A disciple on Psalms 22
    So the "Counsel" has determined that more evidence is needed to support the interpretation of the Scriptures to mean that Christ was to be pierced in His hands and His feet? Read Zechariah 12:10 and 13:6. The Hebrew word in Psalm 22 is aryeh; from the word araw - to pluck (in the sense of Violence); a [young] lion; rendered 'pierced' by the Translators. Jesus rose from dead and kept the piercings!
  • "All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart." Zechariah 12:14 "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." 2 Timothy 3:12


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