Hello Bob. This chapter speaks about the Great Tribulation days, when those left on the Earth, subscribe to the Anti-Christ's demands & worship him. It is upon those who will suffer under God's Wrath & receive this "noisome and grievous sore" (or, an evil/malicious festering sore/ulcer) cf: Exodus 9:8-10 (of God's Anger to the Egyptians) - and this was only the first vial of God's Wrath during that extended period of time. Much more horrors to come. From the texts pertaining to this time in history, it would be difficult to corroborate the Covid vaccine's present effects felt by some, with that Scripture.
Brother Mishael, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Revelation 16:12 .... that the way of the kings of the east be prepared.
Revelation is the REVEALING of JESUS CHRIST.
I BELIEVE the kings of the east represents the BORN AGAIN.
Revelation 5:10 And hath made us unto our God KINGS ....
Matthew 2:1 ....and there came KINGS from the EAST (to worship) ...
It's hard to apply countries to Revelation, because in the last two thousand years anyone living at any given time could make Revelation fit their TIME.
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. (Google "Past Pandemic LIST"; has World death totals.
Not only COVID is a respiratory illness: emphysema, bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia, influenza & more. We seek help for that, don't we?
Jesus told us in Matthew 24, that "pestilence, plagues (pandemics) would be a SIGN. There is no condemnation for help, if you can't breathe. We live in a increasingly contaminated world. That's why there will be an end to all things. 2 Peter 3
Practice common sense, cleanliness; and be wise as a serpent; mild as a dove. Obey those who have rule over you. God will honor our faithfulness to His Word.
There wouldn't be mentions of China in Scripture if it wasn't TRUE. Jesus is at the door. Keep your faith in Him, strong.
Have we not been vaccinated for flu and pneumonia? THE MARK OF THE BEAST is in the HAND OR FOREHEAD. Says nothing about arms.
In history there have been other Corona virus outbreaks. Read that list in google.
Answering some questions (just a passerby looking for something) and thought I'd offer some unsolicited thoughts.
Q: "I never understand Why people want to know what Not Canonized scripture means?
WHY is not the King James Bible good enough for you?"
A:The Apocrypha was in the King James Bible up until the 19th century and in speaking of Ecclesiasticus, it was regarded as practical wisdom in the least and holy writ at most depending on which church "father" you regard. James, as in the brother of our Messiah, for instance, appears to reference the book several times in his epistle.
Next question...
Who is Esau? Two passages and one non-Biblical source to get your journey started...
1) Ezekiel 35
2) Obadiah
3) The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Volume 5, page 41...
And you will have your answer...there is a reason why Yahushua (Jesus) said these things:
Matthew 12:34
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
And John the Baptist said it as well - arriving to TWO WITNESSES.
And this:
John 7:19
19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
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And ultimately, Jesus uses the same exact language to accuse the Pharisees as He does to mystery Babylon (which is the rulers of our generation - exciting times!):
Matthew 23:35
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Revelation 16:6
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
Revelation 18:24
24 And in her was found the BLOOD OF PROPHETS, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth...
And oh so much more if one had a mind to just look!
PART ONE THREE PLAGUES FROM ASIA - In Reply - 2 years ago
I'm asking Jesus right now to give you His peace. He is still, all God and all human like us. Trust in Him, trust in His Word (Bible).
I was just seeing what this websites search engine would fetch, a year ago. I typed in CHINA to a King James Bible. It fetched 3 scriptures: written thousands of years ago. God SEES the past and present: on earth [Alpha and Omega]. He lives outside of Time too, in Third Heaven.
Settle yourself as you read this past post I wrote.
3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA
Revelation 16:12
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
[comment:
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]
I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."
If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
[comment:
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]
I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."
If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"
If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.
OASEAS IS A GOOD NAME FOR YOU, on an island to yourself with a strange Bible. These words help me from jumping out the window like a banker.
"What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."
Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:( Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. ( Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas ( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
"7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."
Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.
( Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Chris, you brought a biblical deep matter, it is not easy for us to speak about "Satan as an angel"in the mysterious times in the Garden of Eden and with the presence of Adam and Eve or the man and the woman,by the way, there was an Eternity in Eden before this current gap of 7 thousand years or 7 millenniums of this current world of Devil, in part already fulfilled,whose world the crafty Satan,or artful Devil,offered to JESUS in the temptation- Luke 4:v.5 to 8.Check it.
What you said is very very interesting, mainly about "war between Jesus and Satan for the glory?". When JESUS was tempted, the Devil knew that JESUS was the heir of GOD, Satan knew that HIS CURRENT DEVIL'S WORLD would be conquer by JESUS and His army or His people- Revelation 11:v.15 to 18 and chapter 12. In fact, Satan tryed to anticipate and deliver his kingdom to JESUS under his satanic condition, but JESUS rejected the Devil's offer, because JESUS had a strategy in His War against Satan. What did JESUS do?
He called the Devil to be near Him as one of the 12 apostles through the person of Jude Scariots. JESUS needed a betrayer among the 12 apostles. JESUS was and is Omniscient, JESUS knew that Judas was a devil, a demon- John 6:v.70- and JESUS ordened to give the bag of money to Jude-the demon-, he was a thief and did steal the money that was in the bag.
From this point ahead, all know what happened in the life of JESUS having Satan at his side, and to defeat him on the cross. God has his ways in this War against Satan, now remains the battle against the three unclean spirits like frogs that come out of the MOUTH of a satanic trinity in this current time, even from now on: Revelation 16:v.13 to 16.
Be careful and get ready because there will be a great spiritual battle day after day, from now on or in days to come.
In fact the event of Ar - mag - eddon is not according your imagination expressed in your post (BY THE WAY, eddon means red; the Red Dragon- Revelation 12, so take care with his MOUTH), but THIS EVENT is according Revelation 16:v.13 to 16, it is against a satanic TRINITY, three unclean spirits like FROGS (they live spiritually in waters (Gentile peoples) and in dry land or clay -Israel with it great City thast spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt) and by their MOUTHS they go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to THIS battle of this Great Day of God Almighty.
JESUS warned through the verse 15:
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Do you believe in JESUS?
I have never heard anyone teach that the word Armageddon is a compound word consisting of three parts (Air/Magog/Heddon). You're the first. It doesn't even break it down that way in the Hebrew. Revelation 16:16 tells us that the word Armageddon comes from the Hebrew tongue (language). In the Hebrew tongue, it is HAR-MEGIDDON, not AIR-MAGOG-HEDDON. HAR means valley, so my understanding would be that this is talking about the valley of MEGIDDO, a physical place on this earth where this future battle takes place. Reading through Revelation chapter 16, especially at verse 14, I see that the whole point of it all is that Satan is going through all this trouble to bring about a one world government, one world religious system, and one world economic system. It's so he can unify everybody under his control so that at the second coming of Christ, he will be in control of them to get them over to the valley of MEGIDDO to fight against the Lord at His second coming.
GOG is the word that the Jews use for all people who are the enemies of Israel. All of Israel's enemies are called GOG. MAGOG is the god, or idol of GOG. So when Satan is loosed out of his prison after the thousand year reign of Christ, he will go out and deceive the nations (GOG and MAGOG) to gather them together for one final battle.
That's my understanding. It doesn't quite match up with what you're saying. I've been following your conversation you've been having with Earl and some of the things I'm reading don't seem quite right. Either it's me just not comprehending what is being said, or the Lord is not allowing me to comprehend it for my own protection? I like to think it's the latter!
There is no such thing as the battle of Armageddon. Armageddon is a gathering place prior to Christs return, where Gog sees Christ standing on Mount Olives, and comes down to get slaughtered in Israel, in the Kidron Valley. The name of the battle is couched in Revelation 16:14. Its "The battle of that great day of God Almighty". Why does everyone make their own story up, and not follow the Word of God?
Revelation 16:16 is NOT a battle ground; it is the place where the feuding beast army GATHERS for the last battle.
Joel 3:2 I will also GATHER all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat (blood), and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
These two verses support one another, with Joel descriptively delving in deeper past the gathering. This last battle is called "The battle of that great day of God Almighty", AND MOST CERTAINLY NOT "the battle of Armageddon."
I don't know a there is to spirit and soul, present or future, I think the soul being dead is "Positionally" Just like we're declared righteousness in Christ. "Positionally"
You see you and I don't agree on where the Spiritually dead goes. I believe there's is a Hell, And it is a place of torment and that Spiritually dead soul will be resurrected and be aware even as the dead is aware of his presence after this body returns to dust. And I believe he will be given a Chance to present his Case in the 2nd resurrection. And there's going to be some of us here who knowingly and not Knowingly fail short of Grace.
" Those who believe salvation is based off the works of the flesh is the knowingly "
" The not knowingly is those who adds to grace " This group misunderstand the difference between SAVED TO WORK and WORK TO BE SAVED. They believe to receive that grace you have to work for it.
I believe those who are spiritually dead have the spirit of the world and have a natural hate for the truth.
Likewise those who are alive in Christ have a natural hatred for the lies.
You tell the difference by their fruit. "Most important Love "Agape" for the Brethren.
BY THE WAY YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT! YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF OR ON. ( These are hard to identify! Speak the truth and it will manifest some.)
This topic "Where the soul goes" Is very important to some because "Their Theology" which is shaped by "their views" hinges on this.
A person can can hold to a view which is fused in a slight works based relationship by even adding to sanctification or Justification "the finish" work on the cross" and he has added leaven. And it shows up in their ministry.
And by the way I believe there is a literal Armageddon. Why and how can you Spiritualize a literal place here on Earth?
And how do you get drawn to it?
Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
According the Word of GOD, the current Beast of sea has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Sea means waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea. All the GENTILE nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER - the Beast of sea.
Who are the nations!!!
How do you interpret Revelation 11:v.2? " the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days
Who are the nations!!!
Except Israel, all nations are Gentiles. The Holy See currently maintains diplomatic relations with 179 countries. Half of them have a permanent embassy in Rome. the COURT which is without the temple it will be given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days .
Remember: Revelation 16:v.13-14
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth UNTO THE KINGS OF THE EARTH and of the WHOLE WORLD, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty. - THE LORD'S DAY -
The Lord's Day is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium . We are already living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium, in other words, in the turn of the sixth Day to the seventh.
I have read of prophesies that seem to point to Islands of the Sea. United States is bordered by oceans, England, Ireland, Scotland, and many more. The thought is they will help Israel flee to the mountains on her eastern side. A country that hated her, will provide shelter, from Antichrist that moves to eradicate Israel.
Also, lions and eagles are mentioned.
"Some Bible students suggest those "wings of a great eagle" may represent America air-lifting our ally Israel to safety, possibly in Petra. But, that is only a theory. America is not mentioned specifically in the last days except perhaps included in the island nations of the world.
The final battle called Armageddon will happen in the Valley of Jezreel in Israel when Jesus Christ returns to set up his Millennial Kingdom. The Antichrist and those nations who side with him will be annihilated by a word from their Creator ( Revelation 16:16; 19:19-21). Only the saved will enter that time of paradise ( Matthew 25:34).
I believe the Believing Church will be gone by this time. Maybe someone else has studied extensively on this part of prophesy? This happens at the moments just before Jesus returns at the end of Tribulation.
And yes I believe America is mentioned I the end of days. I don't plan on being here at that time. What I understand of prophesy is that God is great enough to supernaturally protect the Jews that have turned to God in the time of Trouble. The scales on their eyes are gone, their ears are open: they find themselves surrounded by armies and enemies. A former enemy will shelter them.
[Might try to get some Arthur E Bloomfield book; Grant Jeffery, Jewish Christian writers?]
USA has entered a curse, now, for turning their backs on Israel; funding her enemies to purchase arms to destroy Israel and steal the Land back.
Don't think that God is going to turn a blind eye to that. Study some prophesy and take a break from sabbath & genesis arguments?
Of the 12 tribes, only 3 are Jewish (Benjamin, Levi & Judah), together known as the 'house of Judah'. However, in this case, Judah's 3 sealed tribes have become Jew's for Jesus; Christians. The 144K in scripture are always described as the house of Israel ( Ezekiel 39:12).
No one counted of the 1st resurrection will be left behind; the rest remain asleep. Caught up to Jesus in the clouds happens at the seventh trumpet.
You almost have the order, and will know it better by knowing what happens in the last 3 seals/trumpets. Know events by trumpets. These last 3 trumpets happen close to one another, and why Jesus said this generation will not pass.... When you read about the fall of Babylon, know it's beginning the sixth trumpet (biggest % of prophesy). You would know that ( 2 Thessalonians 2) rests within antichrists sixth trumpet rule. When ( Revelation 16:16) comes to mind, you know the seventh trumpet is about to blow. When Jesus appears in the clouds, know the seventh trumpet is sounding.
We must have had a fifth trumpet to be staring down the sixth, so what was the fifth trumpet? The world drastically changed after 9/11?
We need to discuss this It39s actual scripture - 2 years ago
3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA
Revelation 16:12
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which is being rebuilt now]
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
[comment:
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]
Google "Past Pandemic LIST"
(That has World death totals)
I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.
If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online I guess.
If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.
Mishael
I looked up those places on maps. The regions are in Asia and the Mideast; not in Israel.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that Great Day of God Almighty. - The Lord's Day -
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Why do Scriptures highlight these spirits as frogs? Why frogs? This is an interesting mystery. Here goes what was revealed unto me about this deep mystery.
You all know that, in general, frogs are amphibians vertebrate animals that live between the aquatic environment and the terrestrial environment.
THE AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT OF EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS
Bringing the true assertions above to the spiritual side and for our understanding according Scriptures, we need to quote first Revelation 17:v.15, that says:
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
As we can see, the verse 15 above shows us, or rather, reveals us the AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT of these spirits of demons like frogs which guide the peoples or rule nations of all tongues in whole earth, through all kind of devilish systems, as religious systems(catholicism, and spiritism, budhism, islamism, among others), and political systems, and military systems, and social and cultural systems, among others systems. In fact, Satan goes to and fro and from walking up and down among them.
The biblical interpretation above is about spirit like frog that infested waters according Revelation 17:v.15.
What is THE TERRESTRIAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS?
I believe Gog is being used as a title of what's behind these nations. ( DEMONS.)
Revelation 16:13-14. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
However all of this is debatable.
But what is interesting is the Millennium,
They're in the perfect economy and being ruled with a rod of Iron by the Lord himself. With Satan chained up for a thousand years. And the wicked heart of man still shows up.
It's like a metaphor of Adam biting the apple in the garden, the conditions are the same if not better, In the garden Satan was present.
We often we hear people pridefully saying I can't wait until Jesus comes back to sit on his thrown, ( Hopefully they won't be here.)
And we hear people praying this super duper prayer to bind Satan, Well he's going to be chained for a thousand years!! Man still rebels. Apart from the Holyspirit we're lost!!
The Apostles walked with Christ 3 years and still didn't believe.
And today we fight over who we think should lead the nation, No matter who's in office it don't change the heart of man!!
I think Jesus ruling with a rod of Iron from the thrown of David should trump any Laws we have.
The scary thing is these nations is knowingly fighting against the Lord!! The so called Christian nations is the worst because they should know better right?
( NO WRONG.)
The Holy nation ( The Church) is taken out of the World. There is no geographic land mass on earth that is a Holy Nation, Just one that represents a Promise land to Come, which is the NEW Jerusalem. and that's Israel. And it will get a makeover too, when the Earth is Restored.
Lets establish a time frame for, before the millennium age, by the scriptures you referenced.
Revelation 16:16 -just before Christ's return Gog's army is gathered.
Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat...."
Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for (the day of the LORD is near) in the valley of decision.
Ezekiel 38:15 -day of the Lord attack on Israel.
Revelation 20:8 the post millennium battle. How is it that Gog was destroyed by Jesus at His coming, and only a thousand years later, Gog's numbers are as the sand of the sea? I suspect this is a metaphor of an allegory, wrapped in an enigma working here.
Psalm 83:2-8 David's prayer against Israel's oppressors. You have something here, great job. The mention of Edom (Russia/Esau) as the root cause gives merit to this last conflict reference.
I errored when I said I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation, I meant to say I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation 20, ( after the Millennium). I believe the battle in Ezekiel is before the Millennium.
However I believe it's what you're saying also,
In Ezekiel it seems they comes from the North ( INTO ISRAEL ) to take spoil.
Ezekiel 38:15. And thou shalt come from "THY PLACE" out of the NORTH parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
( Perhaps Russia and company.)
Also notice who's missing in Ezekiel. Israels. surrounding neighbors,
In Revelation they are gathered from the 4 corners of the earth to Armageddon.
Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Revelation 20:8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in (THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH,) Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: THE NUMBER OF WHOM IS AS THE SAND OF THE SEA.
Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Also notice the intent and the players involved here in
Psalms 83:2-8. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
They have said, Come, and LET US CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION; THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE in remembrance.
For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
The tabernacles of EDOM, and the ISHMAEL IT'S; of MOAB, and the HAGARENES;
GEBAL, and AMMON, and AMALEK; the PHILISTINES with the inhabitants of TYRE;
ASSUR also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Revelation 6: 16 lets you know that the 6th seal, scroll and earthquake, lead into the great and dreadful day of the Lord. The world is about to change for the worse.
Armageddon, as you sighted, occurs at the end, when Jesus returns, as prophesy is complete.
Revelation 16:16 Armageddon is a gathering place for Gog's feuding army. When Gog sees Jesus in Jerusalem, they will come down to the valley of Kidron (valley of Jehoshaphat) where the Lord slays them. The blood will be up to the horses bridle.
Sister Evelyn, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
The battle of Armageddon is a battle as real as any battle; yet this battle isn't with natural weapons of warfare. Study Isaiah 9, it's a prophecy about Christ, the kingdom of God, and the battle we fight to obtain the kingdom (CHRIST IN YOU).
Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) SHALL BE with BURNING and FUEL OF FIRE.
Isaiah 9:19 ......And THE PEOPLE shall be the FUEL OF THE FIRE (CHRIST)....( Hebrews 12:29)
Revelation 9:18 By these three was a third part of man killed, BY THE FIRE (CHRIST)( Hebrews 12:29) ....
Ezekiel 5:3 Thou shall BURN a third part in the fire (IN CHRIST) ....
Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the FIRE (IN CHRIST), and burn them in the FIRE (IN CHRIST)....
Isaiah 4:4 When the LORD (FIRE) shall have washed away the filth of the DAUGHTERS OF ZION, and shall have purged the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.
Zachariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the FIRE (CHRIST) .....
Malachi 3:2 Who shall abide the day of his coming (CHRIST IN YOU)? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiners FIRE.....
Matthew 3:11 ....he will baptise you with the HOLY GHOST and FIRE:
Revelation 21:8 But the FEARFUL, and MURDERS ( 1 John 3:15).....and ALL LIARS shall have their part in the lake that burneth with FIRE (JUDGED IN CHRIST)...
Joel 3:14 Multitude, multitudes, in the valley of DECISION: for the DAY OF THE LORD (TODAY) is near in the valley of DECISION.
Revelation 16:16 is speaking of a real battle that will take place.
And he gathered them together into the place which is called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
The valley of Megiddo, it's HAR-MEGIDDON. HAR is valley. The valley of Megiddo is what Armageddon means.
And we see that in Zechariah Chapter 14 Verses 2 and 3, and Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39. It talks about this battle known as Armageddon, or the valley of Megiddo.
Hi WH Hamilton. These names you see in Revelation 20:8 go all the way back to the days of Noah. As you know, Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham & Japheth. From Japheth issued sons: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, & Tiras. And Genesis 20:2-5 tell us that "By these (the sons/descendants of Japheth) were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."
Then the Word of the LORD came to Ezekiel ( Ezekiel 38:1-3): "Son of man (i.e. Ezekiel), set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him". Even though we can't be certain of the exact locations of where these people actually settled in, we can assume that they went into Europe (northern parts) & the various countries formed from these families. Therefore, this 'person' Gog, is also unknown, even though he is referred to as "the chief prince of Meshech & Tubal". These names certainly don't have any modern day counterparts, though it seems that these countries, maybe a union of them, will figure in that great battle in the Valley of Megiddo (Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39; Revelation 16:14-16; Zechariah 14:1-3; Joel 3:1,2). Some suppose that Russia is referred to here, in which case those nations around them & under her influence & power will come against Israel in that Great Day of God's Judgement.
frogs; Rev. 16:13 = Frogs are amphibians and distant zoological relatives to reptiles. In the demonic spiritual realm, these frog-like "unclean spirits" are related to "the dragon" (Satan/Devil; identified twelve times in Revelation), also a spiritually unclean reptile. In the physical world, reptiles eat frogs, but in the spiritual world, the dragon issues one of these frogs from his mouth. How strange are both the physical and the spiritual worlds!
Amphibious frogs are at home in water as they are on land. In the Second Egyptian Plague, frogs issued "abundantly" from the river ( Exo. 8:3). Interestingly, the unholy trinity issues these frogs immediately after the waters of the Euphrates River dries up.
As an unclean animal for dietary consumption, The Jews considered frogs an abomination ( Lev. 11:10-12). Scriptures record the word "frogs" fourteen times, and all references, with this exception, refers to the Second Egyptian Plague ( Exo. 8:2f; Ps. 78:45; 105:30) when GOD sent frogs as an instrument of judgment. GOD can use any created creature to torment and judge the ungodly.
Revelation 16:12 .... that the way of the kings of the east be prepared.
Revelation is the REVEALING of JESUS CHRIST.
I BELIEVE the kings of the east represents the BORN AGAIN.
Revelation 5:10 And hath made us unto our God KINGS ....
Matthew 2:1 ....and there came KINGS from the EAST (to worship) ...
It's hard to apply countries to Revelation, because in the last two thousand years anyone living at any given time could make Revelation fit their TIME.
Look at Revelation how it FITS CHRIST.
Food for thought, SPIRIT reveals.
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. (Google "Past Pandemic LIST"; has World death totals.
Not only COVID is a respiratory illness: emphysema, bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia, influenza & more. We seek help for that, don't we?
Jesus told us in Matthew 24, that "pestilence, plagues (pandemics) would be a SIGN. There is no condemnation for help, if you can't breathe. We live in a increasingly contaminated world. That's why there will be an end to all things. 2 Peter 3
Practice common sense, cleanliness; and be wise as a serpent; mild as a dove. Obey those who have rule over you. God will honor our faithfulness to His Word.
There wouldn't be mentions of China in Scripture if it wasn't TRUE. Jesus is at the door. Keep your faith in Him, strong.
Have we not been vaccinated for flu and pneumonia? THE MARK OF THE BEAST is in the HAND OR FOREHEAD. Says nothing about arms.
In history there have been other Corona virus outbreaks. Read that list in google.
I was vaccinated after I saw the past outbreaks.
Avoid Chinese meat.
Mishael
Q: "I never understand Why people want to know what Not Canonized scripture means?
WHY is not the King James Bible good enough for you?"
A:The Apocrypha was in the King James Bible up until the 19th century and in speaking of Ecclesiasticus, it was regarded as practical wisdom in the least and holy writ at most depending on which church "father" you regard. James, as in the brother of our Messiah, for instance, appears to reference the book several times in his epistle.
Next question...
Who is Esau? Two passages and one non-Biblical source to get your journey started...
1) Ezekiel 35
2) Obadiah
3) The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Volume 5, page 41...
And you will have your answer...there is a reason why Yahushua (Jesus) said these things:
Matthew 12:34
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
And John the Baptist said it as well - arriving to TWO WITNESSES.
And this:
John 7:19
19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
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And ultimately, Jesus uses the same exact language to accuse the Pharisees as He does to mystery Babylon (which is the rulers of our generation - exciting times!):
Matthew 23:35
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Revelation 16:6
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
Revelation 18:24
24 And in her was found the BLOOD OF PROPHETS, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth...
And oh so much more if one had a mind to just look!
You're welcome!
I was just seeing what this websites search engine would fetch, a year ago. I typed in CHINA to a King James Bible. It fetched 3 scriptures: written thousands of years ago. God SEES the past and present: on earth [Alpha and Omega]. He lives outside of Time too, in Third Heaven.
Settle yourself as you read this past post I wrote.
3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA
Revelation 16:12
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
[comment:
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]
I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."
If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"
If anyone tries to Jesus bully me on the boards, I will super Jesus steamroll them.
Elijah steamrolled 450 priests of Baal....the swine ran off the cliff.
See you at the Revelation 16:16 Jehoshaphat blood drive, get a cookie.
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
[comment:
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]
I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."
If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"
If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.
Google: Past Pandemics LIST
"What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."
Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:( Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. ( Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas ( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
"7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."
Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.
( Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Greetings in Christ JESUS,
Chris, you brought a biblical deep matter, it is not easy for us to speak about "Satan as an angel"in the mysterious times in the Garden of Eden and with the presence of Adam and Eve or the man and the woman,by the way, there was an Eternity in Eden before this current gap of 7 thousand years or 7 millenniums of this current world of Devil, in part already fulfilled,whose world the crafty Satan,or artful Devil,offered to JESUS in the temptation- Luke 4:v.5 to 8.Check it.
What you said is very very interesting, mainly about "war between Jesus and Satan for the glory?". When JESUS was tempted, the Devil knew that JESUS was the heir of GOD, Satan knew that HIS CURRENT DEVIL'S WORLD would be conquer by JESUS and His army or His people- Revelation 11:v.15 to 18 and chapter 12. In fact, Satan tryed to anticipate and deliver his kingdom to JESUS under his satanic condition, but JESUS rejected the Devil's offer, because JESUS had a strategy in His War against Satan. What did JESUS do?
He called the Devil to be near Him as one of the 12 apostles through the person of Jude Scariots. JESUS needed a betrayer among the 12 apostles. JESUS was and is Omniscient, JESUS knew that Judas was a devil, a demon- John 6:v.70- and JESUS ordened to give the bag of money to Jude-the demon-, he was a thief and did steal the money that was in the bag.
From this point ahead, all know what happened in the life of JESUS having Satan at his side, and to defeat him on the cross. God has his ways in this War against Satan, now remains the battle against the three unclean spirits like frogs that come out of the MOUTH of a satanic trinity in this current time, even from now on: Revelation 16:v.13 to 16.
Be careful and get ready because there will be a great spiritual battle day after day, from now on or in days to come.
In fact the event of Ar - mag - eddon is not according your imagination expressed in your post (BY THE WAY, eddon means red; the Red Dragon- Revelation 12, so take care with his MOUTH), but THIS EVENT is according Revelation 16:v.13 to 16, it is against a satanic TRINITY, three unclean spirits like FROGS (they live spiritually in waters (Gentile peoples) and in dry land or clay -Israel with it great City thast spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt) and by their MOUTHS they go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to THIS battle of this Great Day of God Almighty.
JESUS warned through the verse 15:
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Do you believe in JESUS?
Be careful, or get ready
I have never heard anyone teach that the word Armageddon is a compound word consisting of three parts (Air/Magog/Heddon). You're the first. It doesn't even break it down that way in the Hebrew. Revelation 16:16 tells us that the word Armageddon comes from the Hebrew tongue (language). In the Hebrew tongue, it is HAR-MEGIDDON, not AIR-MAGOG-HEDDON. HAR means valley, so my understanding would be that this is talking about the valley of MEGIDDO, a physical place on this earth where this future battle takes place. Reading through Revelation chapter 16, especially at verse 14, I see that the whole point of it all is that Satan is going through all this trouble to bring about a one world government, one world religious system, and one world economic system. It's so he can unify everybody under his control so that at the second coming of Christ, he will be in control of them to get them over to the valley of MEGIDDO to fight against the Lord at His second coming.
GOG is the word that the Jews use for all people who are the enemies of Israel. All of Israel's enemies are called GOG. MAGOG is the god, or idol of GOG. So when Satan is loosed out of his prison after the thousand year reign of Christ, he will go out and deceive the nations (GOG and MAGOG) to gather them together for one final battle.
That's my understanding. It doesn't quite match up with what you're saying. I've been following your conversation you've been having with Earl and some of the things I'm reading don't seem quite right. Either it's me just not comprehending what is being said, or the Lord is not allowing me to comprehend it for my own protection? I like to think it's the latter!
There is no such thing as the battle of Armageddon. Armageddon is a gathering place prior to Christs return, where Gog sees Christ standing on Mount Olives, and comes down to get slaughtered in Israel, in the Kidron Valley. The name of the battle is couched in Revelation 16:14. Its "The battle of that great day of God Almighty". Why does everyone make their own story up, and not follow the Word of God?
Revelation 16:16 is NOT a battle ground; it is the place where the feuding beast army GATHERS for the last battle.
Joel 3:2 I will also GATHER all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat (blood), and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
These two verses support one another, with Joel descriptively delving in deeper past the gathering. This last battle is called "The battle of that great day of God Almighty", AND MOST CERTAINLY NOT "the battle of Armageddon."
I don't know a there is to spirit and soul, present or future, I think the soul being dead is "Positionally" Just like we're declared righteousness in Christ. "Positionally"
You see you and I don't agree on where the Spiritually dead goes. I believe there's is a Hell, And it is a place of torment and that Spiritually dead soul will be resurrected and be aware even as the dead is aware of his presence after this body returns to dust. And I believe he will be given a Chance to present his Case in the 2nd resurrection. And there's going to be some of us here who knowingly and not Knowingly fail short of Grace.
" Those who believe salvation is based off the works of the flesh is the knowingly "
" The not knowingly is those who adds to grace " This group misunderstand the difference between SAVED TO WORK and WORK TO BE SAVED. They believe to receive that grace you have to work for it.
I believe those who are spiritually dead have the spirit of the world and have a natural hate for the truth.
Likewise those who are alive in Christ have a natural hatred for the lies.
You tell the difference by their fruit. "Most important Love "Agape" for the Brethren.
BY THE WAY YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT! YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF OR ON. ( These are hard to identify! Speak the truth and it will manifest some.)
This topic "Where the soul goes" Is very important to some because "Their Theology" which is shaped by "their views" hinges on this.
A person can can hold to a view which is fused in a slight works based relationship by even adding to sanctification or Justification "the finish" work on the cross" and he has added leaven. And it shows up in their ministry.
And by the way I believe there is a literal Armageddon. Why and how can you Spiritualize a literal place here on Earth?
And how do you get drawn to it?
Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
There will be two Beasts in near future.
According the Word of GOD, the current Beast of sea has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Sea means waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea. All the GENTILE nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER - the Beast of sea.
Who are the nations!!!
How do you interpret Revelation 11:v.2? " the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days
Who are the nations!!!
Except Israel, all nations are Gentiles. The Holy See currently maintains diplomatic relations with 179 countries. Half of them have a permanent embassy in Rome. the COURT which is without the temple it will be given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days .
Remember: Revelation 16:v.13-14
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth UNTO THE KINGS OF THE EARTH and of the WHOLE WORLD, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty. - THE LORD'S DAY -
The Lord's Day is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium . We are already living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium, in other words, in the turn of the sixth Day to the seventh.
Also, lions and eagles are mentioned.
"Some Bible students suggest those "wings of a great eagle" may represent America air-lifting our ally Israel to safety, possibly in Petra. But, that is only a theory. America is not mentioned specifically in the last days except perhaps included in the island nations of the world.
The final battle called Armageddon will happen in the Valley of Jezreel in Israel when Jesus Christ returns to set up his Millennial Kingdom. The Antichrist and those nations who side with him will be annihilated by a word from their Creator ( Revelation 16:16; 19:19-21). Only the saved will enter that time of paradise ( Matthew 25:34).
I believe the Believing Church will be gone by this time. Maybe someone else has studied extensively on this part of prophesy? This happens at the moments just before Jesus returns at the end of Tribulation.
And yes I believe America is mentioned I the end of days. I don't plan on being here at that time. What I understand of prophesy is that God is great enough to supernaturally protect the Jews that have turned to God in the time of Trouble. The scales on their eyes are gone, their ears are open: they find themselves surrounded by armies and enemies. A former enemy will shelter them.
[Might try to get some Arthur E Bloomfield book; Grant Jeffery, Jewish Christian writers?]
USA has entered a curse, now, for turning their backs on Israel; funding her enemies to purchase arms to destroy Israel and steal the Land back.
Don't think that God is going to turn a blind eye to that. Study some prophesy and take a break from sabbath & genesis arguments?
Of the 12 tribes, only 3 are Jewish (Benjamin, Levi & Judah), together known as the 'house of Judah'. However, in this case, Judah's 3 sealed tribes have become Jew's for Jesus; Christians. The 144K in scripture are always described as the house of Israel ( Ezekiel 39:12).
No one counted of the 1st resurrection will be left behind; the rest remain asleep. Caught up to Jesus in the clouds happens at the seventh trumpet.
You almost have the order, and will know it better by knowing what happens in the last 3 seals/trumpets. Know events by trumpets. These last 3 trumpets happen close to one another, and why Jesus said this generation will not pass.... When you read about the fall of Babylon, know it's beginning the sixth trumpet (biggest % of prophesy). You would know that ( 2 Thessalonians 2) rests within antichrists sixth trumpet rule. When ( Revelation 16:16) comes to mind, you know the seventh trumpet is about to blow. When Jesus appears in the clouds, know the seventh trumpet is sounding.
We must have had a fifth trumpet to be staring down the sixth, so what was the fifth trumpet? The world drastically changed after 9/11?
Revelation 16:12
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.
[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which is being rebuilt now]
Revelation 9:14-18
The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 49:12
Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.
[comment:
China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]
Google "Past Pandemic LIST"
(That has World death totals)
I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.
If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online I guess.
If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.
Mishael
I looked up those places on maps. The regions are in Asia and the Mideast; not in Israel.
THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS
Revelation 16:v.13-16
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that Great Day of God Almighty. - The Lord's Day -
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Why do Scriptures highlight these spirits as frogs? Why frogs? This is an interesting mystery. Here goes what was revealed unto me about this deep mystery.
You all know that, in general, frogs are amphibians vertebrate animals that live between the aquatic environment and the terrestrial environment.
THE AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT OF EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS
Bringing the true assertions above to the spiritual side and for our understanding according Scriptures, we need to quote first Revelation 17:v.15, that says:
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
As we can see, the verse 15 above shows us, or rather, reveals us the AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT of these spirits of demons like frogs which guide the peoples or rule nations of all tongues in whole earth, through all kind of devilish systems, as religious systems(catholicism, and spiritism, budhism, islamism, among others), and political systems, and military systems, and social and cultural systems, among others systems. In fact, Satan goes to and fro and from walking up and down among them.
The biblical interpretation above is about spirit like frog that infested waters according Revelation 17:v.15.
What is THE TERRESTRIAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS?
I believe Gog is being used as a title of what's behind these nations. ( DEMONS.)
Revelation 16:13-14. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
However all of this is debatable.
But what is interesting is the Millennium,
They're in the perfect economy and being ruled with a rod of Iron by the Lord himself. With Satan chained up for a thousand years. And the wicked heart of man still shows up.
It's like a metaphor of Adam biting the apple in the garden, the conditions are the same if not better, In the garden Satan was present.
We often we hear people pridefully saying I can't wait until Jesus comes back to sit on his thrown, ( Hopefully they won't be here.)
And we hear people praying this super duper prayer to bind Satan, Well he's going to be chained for a thousand years!! Man still rebels. Apart from the Holyspirit we're lost!!
The Apostles walked with Christ 3 years and still didn't believe.
And today we fight over who we think should lead the nation, No matter who's in office it don't change the heart of man!!
I think Jesus ruling with a rod of Iron from the thrown of David should trump any Laws we have.
The scary thing is these nations is knowingly fighting against the Lord!! The so called Christian nations is the worst because they should know better right?
( NO WRONG.)
The Holy nation ( The Church) is taken out of the World. There is no geographic land mass on earth that is a Holy Nation, Just one that represents a Promise land to Come, which is the NEW Jerusalem. and that's Israel. And it will get a makeover too, when the Earth is Restored.
A lot to think about isn't it
God bless.
Lets establish a time frame for, before the millennium age, by the scriptures you referenced.
Revelation 16:16 -just before Christ's return Gog's army is gathered.
Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat...."
Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for (the day of the LORD is near) in the valley of decision.
Ezekiel 38:15 -day of the Lord attack on Israel.
Revelation 20:8 the post millennium battle. How is it that Gog was destroyed by Jesus at His coming, and only a thousand years later, Gog's numbers are as the sand of the sea? I suspect this is a metaphor of an allegory, wrapped in an enigma working here.
Psalm 83:2-8 David's prayer against Israel's oppressors. You have something here, great job. The mention of Edom (Russia/Esau) as the root cause gives merit to this last conflict reference.
I errored when I said I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation, I meant to say I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation 20, ( after the Millennium). I believe the battle in Ezekiel is before the Millennium.
However I believe it's what you're saying also,
In Ezekiel it seems they comes from the North ( INTO ISRAEL ) to take spoil.
Ezekiel 38:15. And thou shalt come from "THY PLACE" out of the NORTH parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
( Perhaps Russia and company.)
Also notice who's missing in Ezekiel. Israels. surrounding neighbors,
In Revelation they are gathered from the 4 corners of the earth to Armageddon.
Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Revelation 20:8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in (THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH,) Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: THE NUMBER OF WHOM IS AS THE SAND OF THE SEA.
Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Also notice the intent and the players involved here in
Psalms 83:2-8. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
They have said, Come, and LET US CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION; THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE in remembrance.
For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
The tabernacles of EDOM, and the ISHMAEL IT'S; of MOAB, and the HAGARENES;
GEBAL, and AMMON, and AMALEK; the PHILISTINES with the inhabitants of TYRE;
ASSUR also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
God bless.
Revelation 6: 16 lets you know that the 6th seal, scroll and earthquake, lead into the great and dreadful day of the Lord. The world is about to change for the worse.
Armageddon, as you sighted, occurs at the end, when Jesus returns, as prophesy is complete.
I hope that helps,
God bless
Revelation 16:16 Armageddon is a gathering place for Gog's feuding army. When Gog sees Jesus in Jerusalem, they will come down to the valley of Kidron (valley of Jehoshaphat) where the Lord slays them. The blood will be up to the horses bridle.
God bless
The battle of Armageddon is a battle as real as any battle; yet this battle isn't with natural weapons of warfare. Study Isaiah 9, it's a prophecy about Christ, the kingdom of God, and the battle we fight to obtain the kingdom (CHRIST IN YOU).
Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) SHALL BE with BURNING and FUEL OF FIRE.
Isaiah 9:19 ......And THE PEOPLE shall be the FUEL OF THE FIRE (CHRIST)....( Hebrews 12:29)
Revelation 9:18 By these three was a third part of man killed, BY THE FIRE (CHRIST)( Hebrews 12:29) ....
Ezekiel 5:3 Thou shall BURN a third part in the fire (IN CHRIST) ....
Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the FIRE (IN CHRIST), and burn them in the FIRE (IN CHRIST)....
Isaiah 4:4 When the LORD (FIRE) shall have washed away the filth of the DAUGHTERS OF ZION, and shall have purged the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.
Zachariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the FIRE (CHRIST) .....
Malachi 3:2 Who shall abide the day of his coming (CHRIST IN YOU)? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiners FIRE.....
Matthew 3:11 ....he will baptise you with the HOLY GHOST and FIRE:
Revelation 21:8 But the FEARFUL, and MURDERS ( 1 John 3:15).....and ALL LIARS shall have their part in the lake that burneth with FIRE (JUDGED IN CHRIST)...
Joel 3:14 Multitude, multitudes, in the valley of DECISION: for the DAY OF THE LORD (TODAY) is near in the valley of DECISION.
Revelation 16:16 is speaking of a real battle that will take place.
And he gathered them together into the place which is called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
The valley of Megiddo, it's HAR-MEGIDDON. HAR is valley. The valley of Megiddo is what Armageddon means.
And we see that in Zechariah Chapter 14 Verses 2 and 3, and Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39. It talks about this battle known as Armageddon, or the valley of Megiddo.
Then the Word of the LORD came to Ezekiel ( Ezekiel 38:1-3): "Son of man (i.e. Ezekiel), set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him". Even though we can't be certain of the exact locations of where these people actually settled in, we can assume that they went into Europe (northern parts) & the various countries formed from these families. Therefore, this 'person' Gog, is also unknown, even though he is referred to as "the chief prince of Meshech & Tubal". These names certainly don't have any modern day counterparts, though it seems that these countries, maybe a union of them, will figure in that great battle in the Valley of Megiddo (Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39; Revelation 16:14-16; Zechariah 14:1-3; Joel 3:1,2). Some suppose that Russia is referred to here, in which case those nations around them & under her influence & power will come against Israel in that Great Day of God's Judgement.
Amphibious frogs are at home in water as they are on land. In the Second Egyptian Plague, frogs issued "abundantly" from the river ( Exo. 8:3). Interestingly, the unholy trinity issues these frogs immediately after the waters of the Euphrates River dries up.
As an unclean animal for dietary consumption, The Jews considered frogs an abomination ( Lev. 11:10-12). Scriptures record the word "frogs" fourteen times, and all references, with this exception, refers to the Second Egyptian Plague ( Exo. 8:2f; Ps. 78:45; 105:30) when GOD sent frogs as an instrument of judgment. GOD can use any created creature to torment and judge the ungodly.