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  • PART ONE THREE PLAGUES FROM ASIA - in Reply
    I'm asking Jesus right now to give you His peace. He is still, all God and all human like us. Trust in Him, trust in His Word (Bible).

    I was just seeing what this websites search engine would fetch, a year ago. I typed in CHINA to a King James Bible. It fetched 3 scriptures: written thousands of years ago. God SEES the past and present: on earth [Alpha and Omega]. He lives outside of Time too, in Third Heaven.

    Settle yourself as you read this past post I wrote.

    3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA

    Revelation 16:12

    The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

    [comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.

    Revelation 9:14-18

    The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

    Matthew 24:14

    And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    Isaiah 49:12

    Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.

    [comment:

    China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]

    I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."

    If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"
  • Roy - in Reply
    Norman Walker,

    If anyone tries to Jesus bully me on the boards, I will super Jesus steamroll them.

    Elijah steamrolled 450 priests of Baal....the swine ran off the cliff.

    See you at the Revelation 16:16 Jehoshaphat blood drive, get a cookie.
  • Part 2 THREE SCRIPTURES ON CHINA
    Revelation 16:12

    The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

    [comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which has been rebuilt.

    Revelation 9:14-18

    The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the COLOR of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

    Matthew 24:14

    And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    Isaiah 49:12

    Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.

    [comment:

    China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]

    I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't ACT like past "flu's."

    If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online. "Ancient Bible Maps"

    If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.

    Google: Past Pandemics LIST
  • Gertrude Hasmaris - in Reply
    OASEAS IS A GOOD NAME FOR YOU, on an island to yourself with a strange Bible. These words help me from jumping out the window like a banker.

    "What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."

    Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:(Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. (Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas (Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

    "7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."

    Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.

    (Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
  • OSEAS - in Reply
    CHRIS

    Greetings in Christ JESUS,

    Chris, you brought a biblical deep matter, it is not easy for us to speak about "Satan as an angel"in the mysterious times in the Garden of Eden and with the presence of Adam and Eve or the man and the woman,by the way, there was an Eternity in Eden before this current gap of 7 thousand years or 7 millenniums of this current world of Devil, in part already fulfilled,whose world the crafty Satan,or artful Devil,offered to JESUS in the temptation-Luke 4:v.5 to 8.Check it.

    What you said is very very interesting, mainly about "war between Jesus and Satan for the glory?". When JESUS was tempted, the Devil knew that JESUS was the heir of GOD, Satan knew that HIS CURRENT DEVIL'S WORLD would be conquer by JESUS and His army or His people-Revelation 11:v.15 to 18 and chapter 12. In fact, Satan tryed to anticipate and deliver his kingdom to JESUS under his satanic condition, but JESUS rejected the Devil's offer, because JESUS had a strategy in His War against Satan. What did JESUS do?

    He called the Devil to be near Him as one of the 12 apostles through the person of Jude Scariots. JESUS needed a betrayer among the 12 apostles. JESUS was and is Omniscient, JESUS knew that Judas was a devil, a demon-John 6:v.70- and JESUS ordened to give the bag of money to Jude-the demon-, he was a thief and did steal the money that was in the bag.

    From this point ahead, all know what happened in the life of JESUS having Satan at his side, and to defeat him on the cross. God has his ways in this War against Satan, now remains the battle against the three unclean spirits like frogs that come out of the MOUTH of a satanic trinity in this current time, even from now on: Revelation 16:v.3 to 16.

    Be careful and get ready because there will be a great spiritual battle day after day, from now on or in days to come.
  • OSEAS - in Reply
    NORMAN

    In fact the event of Ar - mag - eddon is not according your imagination expressed in your post (BY THE WAY, eddon means red; the Red Dragon-Revelation 12, so take care with his MOUTH), but THIS EVENT is according Revelation 16:v.13 to 16, it is against a satanic TRINITY, three unclean spirits like FROGS (they live spiritually in waters (Gentile peoples) and in dry land or clay -Israel with it great City thast spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt) and by their MOUTHS they go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to THIS battle of this Great Day of God Almighty.

    JESUS warned through the verse 15:

    15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Do you believe in JESUS?

    Be careful, or get ready
  • Jesse - in Reply
    OSEAS,

    I have never heard anyone teach that the word Armageddon is a compound word consisting of three parts (Air/Magog/Heddon). You're the first. It doesn't even break it down that way in the Hebrew. Revelation 16:16 tells us that the word Armageddon comes from the Hebrew tongue (language). In the Hebrew tongue, it is HAR-MEGIDDON, not AIR-MAGOG-HEDDON. HAR means valley, so my understanding would be that this is talking about the valley of MEGIDDO, a physical place on this earth where this future battle takes place. Reading through Revelation chapter 16, especially at verse 14, I see that the whole point of it all is that Satan is going through all this trouble to bring about a one world government, one world religious system, and one world economic system. It's so he can unify everybody under his control so that at the second coming of Christ, he will be in control of them to get them over to the valley of MEGIDDO to fight against the Lord at His second coming.

    GOG is the word that the Jews use for all people who are the enemies of Israel. All of Israel's enemies are called GOG. MAGOG is the god, or idol of GOG. So when Satan is loosed out of his prison after the thousand year reign of Christ, he will go out and deceive the nations (GOG and MAGOG) to gather them together for one final battle.

    That's my understanding. It doesn't quite match up with what you're saying. I've been following your conversation you've been having with Earl and some of the things I'm reading don't seem quite right. Either it's me just not comprehending what is being said, or the Lord is not allowing me to comprehend it for my own protection? I like to think it's the latter!
  • Norman - in Reply
    OSEAS,

    There is no such thing as the battle of Armageddon. Armageddon is a gathering place prior to Christs return, where Gog sees Christ standing on Mount Olives, and comes down to get slaughtered in Israel, in the Kidron Valley. The name of the battle is couched in Revelation 16:14. Its "The battle of that great day of God Almighty". Why does everyone make their own story up, and not follow the Word of God?
  • Mark Sislack - in Reply
    Earl Bowman,

    Revelation 16:16 is NOT a battle ground; it is the place where the feuding beast army GATHERS for the last battle.

    Joel 3:2 I will also GATHER all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat (blood), and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

    These two verses support one another, with Joel descriptively delving in deeper past the gathering. This last battle is called "The battle of that great day of God Almighty", AND MOST CERTAINLY NOT "the battle of Armageddon."
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Brother S Spencer, I have another question? Is everything in Revelation 16 literal, or just the battle of Armageddon? Do you believe Joel 3 is describing this same battle or a different battle.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Yes Brother Earl,

    I don't know a there is to spirit and soul, present or future, I think the soul being dead is "Positionally" Just like we're declared righteousness in Christ. "Positionally"

    You see you and I don't agree on where the Spiritually dead goes. I believe there's is a Hell, And it is a place of torment and that Spiritually dead soul will be resurrected and be aware even as the dead is aware of his presence after this body returns to dust. And I believe he will be given a Chance to present his Case in the 2nd resurrection. And there's going to be some of us here who knowingly and not Knowingly fail short of Grace.

    " Those who believe salvation is based off the works of the flesh is the knowingly "

    " The not knowingly is those who adds to grace " This group misunderstand the difference between SAVED TO WORK and WORK TO BE SAVED. They believe to receive that grace you have to work for it.

    I believe those who are spiritually dead have the spirit of the world and have a natural hate for the truth.

    Likewise those who are alive in Christ have a natural hatred for the lies.

    You tell the difference by their fruit. "Most important Love "Agape" for the Brethren.

    BY THE WAY YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT! YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF OR ON. ( These are hard to identify! Speak the truth and it will manifest some.)

    This topic "Where the soul goes" Is very important to some because "Their Theology" which is shaped by "their views" hinges on this.

    A person can can hold to a view which is fused in a slight works based relationship by even adding to sanctification or Justification "the finish" work on the cross" and he has added leaven. And it shows up in their ministry.

    And by the way I believe there is a literal Armageddon. Why and how can you Spiritualize a literal place here on Earth?

    And how do you get drawn to it?

    Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
  • OSEAS - in Reply
    JUAN DIAZ

    There will be two Beasts in near future.

    According the Word of GOD, the current Beast of sea has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    Sea means waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea. All the GENTILE nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER - the Beast of sea.

    Who are the nations!!!

    How do you interpret Revelation 11:v.2? " the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days

    Who are the nations!!!

    Except Israel, all nations are Gentiles. The Holy See currently maintains diplomatic relations with 179 countries. Half of them have a permanent embassy in Rome. the COURT which is without the temple it will be given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days .

    Remember: Revelation 16:v.13-14

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth UNTO THE KINGS OF THE EARTH and of the WHOLE WORLD, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty. - THE LORD'S DAY -

    The Lord's Day is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium . We are already living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium, in other words, in the turn of the sixth Day to the seventh.
  • Prophetic Events At the End
    I have read of prophesies that seem to point to Islands of the Sea. United States is bordered by oceans, England, Ireland, Scotland, and many more. The thought is they will help Israel flee to the mountains on her eastern side. A country that hated her, will provide shelter, from Antichrist that moves to eradicate Israel.

    Also, lions and eagles are mentioned.

    "Some Bible students suggest those "wings of a great eagle" may represent America air-lifting our ally Israel to safety, possibly in Petra. But, that is only a theory. America is not mentioned specifically in the last days except perhaps included in the island nations of the world.

    The final battle called Armageddon will happen in the Valley of Jezreel in Israel when Jesus Christ returns to set up his Millennial Kingdom. The Antichrist and those nations who side with him will be annihilated by a word from their Creator (Revelation 16:16; 19:19-21). Only the saved will enter that time of paradise (Matthew 25:34).

    I believe the Believing Church will be gone by this time. Maybe someone else has studied extensively on this part of prophesy? This happens at the moments just before Jesus returns at the end of Tribulation.

    And yes I believe America is mentioned I the end of days. I don't plan on being here at that time. What I understand of prophesy is that God is great enough to supernaturally protect the Jews that have turned to God in the time of Trouble. The scales on their eyes are gone, their ears are open: they find themselves surrounded by armies and enemies. A former enemy will shelter them.

    [Might try to get some Arthur E Bloomfield book; Grant Jeffery, Jewish Christian writers?]

    USA has entered a curse, now, for turning their backs on Israel; funding her enemies to purchase arms to destroy Israel and steal the Land back.

    Don't think that God is going to turn a blind eye to that. Study some prophesy and take a break from sabbath & genesis arguments?
  • Sam - in Reply
    Mishael,

    Of the 12 tribes, only 3 are Jewish (Benjamin, Levi & Judah), together known as the 'house of Judah'. However, in this case, Judah's 3 sealed tribes have become Jew's for Jesus; Christians. The 144K in scripture are always described as the house of Israel (Ezekiel 39:12).



    No one counted of the 1st resurrection will be left behind; the rest remain asleep. Caught up to Jesus in the clouds happens at the seventh trumpet.

    You almost have the order, and will know it better by knowing what happens in the last 3 seals/trumpets. Know events by trumpets. These last 3 trumpets happen close to one another, and why Jesus said this generation will not pass.... When you read about the fall of Babylon, know it's beginning the sixth trumpet (biggest % of prophesy). You would know that (2 Thessalonians 2) rests within antichrists sixth trumpet rule. When (Revelation 16:16) comes to mind, you know the seventh trumpet is about to blow. When Jesus appears in the clouds, know the seventh trumpet is sounding.

    We must have had a fifth trumpet to be staring down the sixth, so what was the fifth trumpet? The world drastically changed after 9/11?
  • We need to discuss this It39s actual scripture
    3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA

    Revelation 16:12

    The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

    [comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which is being rebuilt now]

    Revelation 9:14-18

    The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

    Matthew 24:14

    And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    Isaiah 49:12

    Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.

    [comment:

    China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]

    Google "Past Pandemic LIST"

    (That has World death totals)

    I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.

    If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online I guess.

    If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.

    Mishael

    I looked up those places on maps. The regions are in Asia and the Mideast; not in Israel.
  • Osas Ramos de Siqueira - in Reply
    Greetings, S Spencer

    THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS

    Revelation 16:v.13-16

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that Great Day of God Almighty. - The Lord's Day -

    16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    Why do Scriptures highlight these spirits as frogs? Why frogs? This is an interesting mystery. Here goes what was revealed unto me about this deep mystery.



    You all know that, in general, frogs are amphibians vertebrate animals that live between the aquatic environment and the terrestrial environment.

    THE AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT OF EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS

    Bringing the true assertions above to the spiritual side and for our understanding according Scriptures, we need to quote first Revelation 17:v.15, that says:

    15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

    As we can see, the verse 15 above shows us, or rather, reveals us the AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT of these spirits of demons like frogs which guide the peoples or rule nations of all tongues in whole earth, through all kind of devilish systems, as religious systems(catholicism, and spiritism, budhism, islamism, among others), and political systems, and military systems, and social and cultural systems, among others systems. In fact, Satan goes to and fro and from walking up and down among them.

    The biblical interpretation above is about spirit like frog that infested waters according Revelation 17:v.15.

    What is THE TERRESTRIAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS?
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Wesley.

    I believe Gog is being used as a title of what's behind these nations. ( DEMONS.)

    Revelation 16:13-14. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    However all of this is debatable.

    But what is interesting is the Millennium,

    They're in the perfect economy and being ruled with a rod of Iron by the Lord himself. With Satan chained up for a thousand years. And the wicked heart of man still shows up.

    It's like a metaphor of Adam biting the apple in the garden, the conditions are the same if not better, In the garden Satan was present.

    We often we hear people pridefully saying I can't wait until Jesus comes back to sit on his thrown, ( Hopefully they won't be here.)

    And we hear people praying this super duper prayer to bind Satan, Well he's going to be chained for a thousand years!! Man still rebels. Apart from the Holyspirit we're lost!!

    The Apostles walked with Christ 3 years and still didn't believe.

    And today we fight over who we think should lead the nation, No matter who's in office it don't change the heart of man!!

    I think Jesus ruling with a rod of Iron from the thrown of David should trump any Laws we have.

    The scary thing is these nations is knowingly fighting against the Lord!! The so called Christian nations is the worst because they should know better right?

    ( NO WRONG.)

    The Holy nation ( The Church) is taken out of the World. There is no geographic land mass on earth that is a Holy Nation, Just one that represents a Promise land to Come, which is the NEW Jerusalem. and that's Israel. And it will get a makeover too, when the Earth is Restored.

    A lot to think about isn't it

    God bless.
  • Wesley Masterson - in Reply
    S. Spencer,

    Lets establish a time frame for, before the millennium age, by the scriptures you referenced.

    Revelation 16:16 -just before Christ's return Gog's army is gathered.

    Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat...."

    Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for (the day of the LORD is near) in the valley of decision.

    Ezekiel 38:15 -day of the Lord attack on Israel.

    Revelation 20:8 the post millennium battle. How is it that Gog was destroyed by Jesus at His coming, and only a thousand years later, Gog's numbers are as the sand of the sea? I suspect this is a metaphor of an allegory, wrapped in an enigma working here.

    Psalm 83:2-8 David's prayer against Israel's oppressors. You have something here, great job. The mention of Edom (Russia/Esau) as the root cause gives merit to this last conflict reference.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Wesley,

    I errored when I said I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation, I meant to say I believe the battle in Ezekiel is not the same in Revelation 20, ( after the Millennium). I believe the battle in Ezekiel is before the Millennium.

    However I believe it's what you're saying also,

    In Ezekiel it seems they comes from the North ( INTO ISRAEL ) to take spoil.

    Ezekiel 38:15. And thou shalt come from "THY PLACE" out of the NORTH parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

    ( Perhaps Russia and company.)

    Also notice who's missing in Ezekiel. Israels. surrounding neighbors,

    In Revelation they are gathered from the 4 corners of the earth to Armageddon.

    Revelation 16:16. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    Revelation 20:8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in (THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH,) Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: THE NUMBER OF WHOM IS AS THE SAND OF THE SEA.

    Joel 3:2. I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

    Also notice the intent and the players involved here in

    Psalms 83:2-8. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

    They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

    They have said, Come, and LET US CUT THEM OFF FROM BEING A NATION; THAT THE NAME OF ISRAEL MAY BE NO MORE in remembrance.

    For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

    The tabernacles of EDOM, and the ISHMAEL IT'S; of MOAB, and the HAGARENES;

    GEBAL, and AMMON, and AMALEK; the PHILISTINES with the inhabitants of TYRE;

    ASSUR also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

    God bless.
  • Ron on Genesis 1:1
    Jesse,

    Revelation 16:16 Armageddon is a gathering place for Gog's feuding army. When Gog sees Jesus in Jerusalem, they will come down to the valley of Kidron (valley of Jehoshaphat) where the Lord slays them. The blood will be up to the horses bridle.

    God bless
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 16
    Evelyn,

    Revelation 16:16 is speaking of a real battle that will take place.

    And he gathered them together into the place which is called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    The valley of Megiddo, it's HAR-MEGIDDON. HAR is valley. The valley of Megiddo is what Armageddon means.

    And we see that in Zechariah Chapter 14 Verses 2 and 3, and Ezekiel Chapters 8 and 39. It talks about this battle known as Armageddon, or the valley of Megiddo.
  • Evelyn Brown on Revelation 16
    Explain Revelation 16 verse 16. The battle of Armageddon is is a real battle or is symbolic. Thank you.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 20
    Hi WH Hamilton. These names you see in Revelation 20:8 go all the way back to the days of Noah. As you know, Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham & Japheth. From Japheth issued sons: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, & Tiras. And Genesis 20:2-5 tell us that "By these (the sons/descendants of Japheth) were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."

    Then the Word of the LORD came to Ezekiel (Ezekiel 38:1-3): "Son of man (i.e. Ezekiel), set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him". Even though we can't be certain of the exact locations of where these people actually settled in, we can assume that they went into Europe (northern parts) & the various countries formed from these families. Therefore, this 'person' Gog, is also unknown, even though he is referred to as "the chief prince of Meshech & Tubal". These names certainly don't have any modern day counterparts, though it seems that these countries, maybe a union of them, will figure in that great battle in the Valley of Megiddo (Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39; Revelation 16:14-16; Zechariah 14:1-3; Joel 3:1,2). Some suppose that Russia is referred to here, in which case those nations around them & under her influence & power will come against Israel in that Great Day of God's Judgement.
  • Simon - in Reply on James 1
    S. Spencer,

    Jesus comes "like a thief" at the sixth trumpet too. 1 Thessalonians 5:2

    Joel 2:11

    "His" northern army defeats Babylon.

    It is God with antichrist's army who lays Jacob's land desolate...

    Revelation 16:15 has a magical feel to it as if it were mirroring another time stamp, which it is.

    .
  • S Spencer - in Reply on John 3:13
    Hi Richard,

    I agree there is a hell. I believe it because the bible says it!

    To teach otherwise can be dangerous, It sounds similar to Satan discrediting Gods word when Satan deceived Eve.

    "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" Genesis 3:4.

    And here's scriptural proof they don't just cease from existing.

    1st of all the resurrection, and the term we know as the 2nd death.

    Acts 24:15. And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a RESURRECTION of the dead, ( both of the just and UNJUST. )

    What's the point in raising the unjust just to send them right back to the grave?

    Matthew 25:41, 46 (KJV) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:...42..43..44..

    ...And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT:

    but the righteous into life eternal.

    Hell was created for the devil and his angels but his children will go there also, and to take note,

    YOU CAN'T WEEP AND NASH TEETH IF YOU NO LONGER EXIST, NEITHER CAN YOU ENDURE EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT.

    Matthew 13:42-43. AND SHALL CAST THEM INTO A FURNACE OF FIRE: ""THERE SHALL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

    Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.

    Revelation 20:14-15. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the Second death.

    And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.

    HERE IT SEEMS TO BE A RELOCATION, AND DEATH ( AND HELL IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE!! )

    When the restrainer is taken out of the way

    ( Thes 2:7 )

    you see how evil men really is. War against God ect.

    Revelation 16:9. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

    They'll be just like their father the Devil.

    No repentance. Forever tormented.

    The scripture is clear.

    GB.
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10
    Part 4

    Ezekiel 38:18-23

    The Lord Jesus Christ standing on Mount Olive:

    The seventh trumpet sounds:

    (Revelation 16:15) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. [Jesus comes as a thief at both sixth & seventh trumpets]

    vs 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face

    vs 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

    (Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. (Revelation 16:17) (John 19:30)

    (Ezekiel 37:1-14) Resurrection: ...vs 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. vs 11 ...these bones are the whole house of Israel. vs 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live,..

    (Matthew 24:30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    (Revelation 1:7)

    (Revelation 19:11-16)

    (Revelation 19:19-20)

    vs 20 ...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. (Zechariah 14:1-4) ....Then shall the LORD go forth...And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...

    (Zechariah 14:12)

    God removes the 'northern army':

    (Joel 2:20-21)

    (Daniel 11:40)

    (Jeremiah 6:22-23)

    (Jeremiah 50:3)

    (Jeremiah 50:41)

    vs 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10
    Part 3 continued:

    Gog has 42 months, minus 1 hour of absolute power left. The lead house of Israel was defeated (Ezekiel 21:12) in the like manner as Babylon (Isaiah 47). antichrist sets up his beast 'marked' government.

    (Daniel 9:25) ...and to build Jerusalem the street shall be built again, and the wall (temple)...

    (2 Thessalonians 2:4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    (Daniel 2:41) And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided...

    (Daniel 11:44) But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy...

    (Amos 1:6) The Philistines raided Judah under king Joram (2 Chronicles 21:16-17). They sold their captives to the archenemy of Israel, the Edomites.

    (Obadiah 1:10) For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

    (Obadiah 1:8) Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

    (Obadiah 6 & 7) All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee....

    (Revelation 16:16) ....And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    Gog's 42 months of power are coming to a close. His army is feuding to a point where, if allowed to, they would completely destroy the earth. This is the sole reason for the second coming of Jesus Christ: to prevent armies from ending the planet. When they of Revelation 16:16 see Christ's brightness upon Mt Olive, they will come down to the slaughter.
  • Simon on Daniel 8
    satan's spiritual relationship with antichrist parallels that of God to Jesus.

    -God's Spirit is counterfeited by satan spirit

    -Jesus' Spirit is counterfeited by antichrist spirit

    -Holy Ghost is counterfeited by the false prophet spirit

    1) Jesus's ministry was 42 months

    To: (Revelation 13:5) antichrist receives 42 months

    2) (Revelation 1:8)

    To (Revelation 17:8)

    3) (Revelation 5:6)

    To: (Revelation 13:3)

    The three evil spirits that God had stricken us with, to prove us, are gone. (Revelation 16:13) (Revelation 19:20) (Revelation 20:10). It is the dragon (satan) the boss that gets locked up for 1 years..

    Below is conclusive "mirroring" evidence of the spirit world hierarchy:

    (Daniel 8:24) And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

    "but not by his own power" as that power comes from the dragon, given from God.

    (Revelation 13:2) And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    "the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority". satan gives power to antichrist, antichrist is the son of satan, but antichrist is not satan. antichrist is under the possession of satan.

    (Titus 2:13) Many scriptures point to Jesus being God, but this hierarchy evidence can't be overlooked. Jesus told his adversaries all along who he was, but they didn't have the wherewithal to grasp it, Jesus continually said His power was not of His own, but of the Father. The theologians argue this paradox out to contention.

    (John 5:19) ...The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do....

    (John 12:49) For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me....
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Rev robert, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Revelation 14

    Revelation 15

    Revelation 16

    This is the work of CHRIST DEATH on the cross and the work of HIS RESURRECTION and the battle (Revelation 16:14) we are caused to fight to come to this TRUTH IN CHRIST. Being fulfilled for the last 2000 years as the Fathers draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST gives us HIS UNDERSTANDING to overcome. ASK HIM he will cause you to understand; but it HIS time frame. We have been in the day of the Lord now for 2000 years. He is harvesting HIS FRUITS as they become first ripe (firstfruits) (Revelation 14:14-20) (Matthew 20:1-16)

    When the sixth seal was opened (Revelation 6:12) Christ was crucified; prophecy of (Joel 2:31). The old testament saints and the children of the resurrection were raised with him (Isaiah 26:19),(Revelation 20:5-6) and (Matthew 27:52-53). The old testament saints were sealed with the Holy Spirit and the body of Christ (1 Timothy 6:16)(Revelation 7:3-8). There was silence in heaven for one half hour (Revelation 8:1) between the sixth and seventh seal. This is the 45 days between Christ resurrection and pentecost (Daniel 12:11-12) 1335 days minus 1290 days. No one could enter into the temple (into Christ) until the seven plagues were pour out on Christ (he took God's wrath for us). now we can be ONE IN CHRIST (Revelation 15:6-8). The four living creatures before the throne (Revelation 4:6-8) is all creation. God made a covenant with Noah that they would never be destroyed again (Genesis 9:9-12) man, cattle, beast and fowl. (Ezekiel 1:10) (Revelation 4:7). ALL CREATION will worship God. The lake of fire is how Christ cleanses and purifies us.

    Hebrews 12:29

    Luke 12:49-50

    Matthew 3:11-12

    Isaiah 9:5

    Isaiah 4:3-4

    Malachai 3:2-3

    Ezekiel 20:46-49

    1 Corinthians 3:15
  • Battle For Our Minds on Mark 3
    This first scripture clearly warns that Satan will have power to deceive human beings with false signs, even tales of alien creatures, spaceships, mermaids, monsters, vampires, you name it. Cable and streaming tv are full of it.

    Guard your mind, heart and eyes. Christians should not view slop on Saturday and sing in Church on Sunday. Don't let your kids watch it.

    There is an alternative to watching Netflix. It's called PUREFLIX. I highly recommend it. It's not corny or lame. It's entertaining and doesn't pollute your soul. There's movies for the guys too! You can view the Free Trial for 10 days.

    In Deuteronomy 28: God says, Choose Life, so that you and your children may live.

    2 Thessalonians 2:9 - [Even him], whose coming is after the working of SATAN with all power and signs and LYING wonders,

    Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very ELECT (us).

    2 Timothy 3:1-5 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)

    Acts 2:22 - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

    Revelation 16:14 - For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    Mark 13:22 - For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect. (YOU)

    John 4:48 - Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

    Good question? Whose signs and wonders are we watching?

    Mishael


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