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  • Frankie J - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Hey Dan

    Jesse A, is right,

    John is speaking to believers who are in the progressional stages of "sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience & sprinkling of the Blood of Jesus". they're learning & putting on Christ in ever increasing measures, yet they have not yet attain to the baptismal of Christ were self is crucified & they are "dead unto sin" but are in the working out of their salvation with fear & trembling, revealing the true fear of the Lord is working within their hearts, to depart from all evil.

    In this ever increasing measures of growth in Christ/Grace/Light/Spirit 1John 1:8 is refer too, John commands them to 1John 2:1 keep repenting, remaining tender to the motions of His Spirit, with a heart devoted to the fear of the Lord until the appointed time of the Father when we are baptize with the baptismal of Christ, " thoroughly purged". We having experientially learnt the struggles of Rom 6 & 7 and have been brought to Rom 8:1,2 & their is no condemnation because His Word has

    Isa 55:11, go & sin no more, we have been brought through 1Pet 5:10 in Christ, born again of the Incorruptible Seed & thus become incorruptible too, by the Cross/ Spirit / Grace / Light shining in our hearts & received John 1:12

    through all these experiences in the working out of our salvation & in our continuing to perfecting of holiness in the love & fear of God, ever growing in Grace, we can say with John, 1John 1:1-3

    Oh, praise the Lord, Psalms 62:5 Proverbs 23:18

    2 Timothy 2:19 Psalms 93:5 " who houses we are"

    the LORD, strengthen & encourage you
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    God's plans for the nations

    When examining the nations after the flood and during the failed attempt to build the tower of Babel everyone spoke one language until God Himself confused it (see Genesis 10:7-9). This was associated with the geographic breaking of the continents it would appear; or perhaps there was passage along the Alaskan peninsula when it was still covered with ice to allow Asiatic peoples to cross over. There have been people that seem to treace to Egypt as well who were mentioned a few generations ahead of Eber; and it is surmised some may have come over on ships. Genesis 10:25 states

    "One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan." (these were the sons of Eber). The general spiritual understanding of most cultures holds on to an original concept of God and stories of a worldwide flood are universal throughout the continents. These are known as the "Epic of Gilgamesh" in the Mideast; and with different characters of 8 persons in the Chinese legends; for example. Hebrew has been said to be traced perhaps to the original language; I find it interesting that some of the characters appear to be pictures and some are letters. The eastern languages tended to have pictorial representations; but there are many complex variations in the Americas among a plethora of different Indian nations. Stories also are universal describing races of giants; which match up with the many giants before and after the flood in scripture ( Gen. 6:4); see also Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim).

    Proverbs 23:10 states "Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless". Another word for landmark is "boundary stones." Deuteronomy 32:8 states: "When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel."
  • T Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Story of Job 1, was encouragement to me after loss of worldly riches. I was amazed after he suffered so much loss he (Job) was able to say: Job 1:21,

    Also Proverbs 23:4,5, Hebrews 12:27, Psalms 12:5,

    I hope these are helpful
  • Ronnette on John 16:33 - 1 year ago
    QJohn 16:12-3 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Corinthians 2:15-16. Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. Galatians 1:3-5. All I can tell us is thismemorize your KJV Bible. Save as many as your love one's. Be patient. Listen more and speak less. Love your spouse deeply. Grow in grace and true charity 1 Corinthians 13:1-13. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. The time is at hand. We will see more changes and mark this day. Watch carefully. Revelation 3:2-3. There is a spiritual message in Job 20:1-29. Be careful for nothing Philippians 4:6. Hebrews 10:31, but Revelation 21:8. I comfort you with these 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18. As you walk in the Spirit of God, Proverbs 23:4-5. Those who are in Spirit understand Psalm 90:10 read the whole chapter. Our meditation be Psalms 91:1:16 memorize and our prayers today be Psalms 55:1-23. Peace.
  • Anthony Mazio - In Reply - 1 year ago
    22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look at intoxicating drinks.

    23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a serpent, sting like an adder.

    24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.

    25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker unstable

    26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.

    27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol perverts good judgment.

    28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given to those about to perish or those in pain. Better anesthetics are available today.

    29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything, including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It did not. ( Ecclesiastes 12:8)

    30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when its leaders do not drink.

    31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up early to drink and stay up late at night to get drunk.

    32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and "experts" at mixing drinks.

    33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their vomit.

    34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to drink; their future looks hopeless to them.

    35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the consequences when God judges.

    36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the drunkards of Ephraim.

    37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden down.

    38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.

    39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers' tables are covered with vomit and filth.

    40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.

    41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.

    42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.

    43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king's intoxicating wine an
  • Anthony Mazio - In Reply - 1 year ago
    'There is more Scripture objectively condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.

    1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

    2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality

    3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.

    4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.

    5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.

    6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.

    7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.

    8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.

    9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.

    10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.

    11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.

    12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.

    13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated

    14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the Israelites.

    15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.

    16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord's anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.

    17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.

    18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.

    19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.

    20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.

    21) Proverbs 23:29-30 -
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Psalms 23,

    Rod: Exodus 4:17,

    Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,

    Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,

    Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Here are few wise words from Solomon: Proverbs 20:1; Proverbs 23:19-21; Proverbs 23:29-32.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Nick.

    Proverbs 23:13-14. Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

    I believe that says chastise your children.

    God bless.
  • Marke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Strong's Concordance gives a proposed definition for the Hebrew word as a 'perversity' or 'fraud.' The Hebrew word translated "frowardness" in Proverbs 10 is also translated "perverse things" in Proverbs 23.

    Proverbs 23:33

    Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    * 1Peter 5:8, Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 23:29-35, Ephesians 5:18,

    1Thessalonians 5:5-10, 1Timothy 3:2,11, Titus 1:8, Titus 2, 1Peter 1:13, 1Peter 4:7, Leviticus 10:9, Leaders, priests, Numbers 6:2-4,

    There are a two stories in Genesis that shows negative results.

    Deuteronomy 32:33, Proverbs 21:17, Isaiah 5:10-23, Isaiah 28:7,

    Proverbs 31:4-7,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 62 - 2 years ago
    Psalms 9:10, Psalms 18:2,30, Psalms 56:3, Psalms 71:5, Isaiah 12:2, our trust & hope should ultimately be in GOD

    * Psalms 118:8, * Jeremiah 9:4, * Micah 7:5,6, Luke 12:52, Psalms 27:10, Ephesian 6:2,3, Proverbs 23:22, people even most dear can betray, abandon, abuse etc. There was much abuse, betrayal, within King David's family & those he served. 1Samuel 21, 2Samuel 15, Saul his King, his children, wife, etc. Starting with his calling, 1Samuel 16:5-11,

    Psalms 20:7,

    Psalms 62:2,5,8, 2Samuel 22:3,31,

    Job 4:17-21,

    Psalms 17:7, Psalms 25:2, Psalms 31:19,

    Psalms 40:4, Psalms 44:6, Psalms 49:6,7,

    Luke 14:26, trust GOD 1st & only yet honor them, this may be when there is contradiction to GOD's will & commandments. Even Jesus faced those struggles with earthly parents & family. Mark 3:20,21, Mark 3:31-35, John 7:3-5, Luke 2:42-52,

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 131 - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:6, Colossians 3:21,

    Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 29:15, Proverbs 23:13, Ephesians 6:4,

    It's been quoted "spare the rod spoil the child" it's about discipline, correcting a child. Hebrews 12:8, Hebrews 12:9, Hebrews 8,

    Isaiah 53:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Amos nr 1. Ornaments are not necessary for God, but perhaps for people to think that HE IS HOLY A GOD.

    nr 2.

    It may be that water may be contaminated, which unclean / poison etc. Then one can drink food wine. 1 Timothy 5:23

    Proverbs 23:30-35 here it is talked about not being an alcoholic.

    nr 3. Now here comes the confusion:

    Paul says it is a misnomer for a man to go with long hair. Likewise, it is for woman and having long hair an honor. 1 Corintihans 11

    Personally, I think here that the Corinthians who were very distinctive and proud. Failed to reach agreement. But it is a sign of authority. Easily explained.

    Jesus is the man's head if he is a believer. 1 Corintians 11:15 Note in particular that the chapter continues with the Lord's meal. Authority and trust. The man rules over the woman with whom he is Married. Not other men's wives.

    1 Corintihans 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. Amen

    A little personal here now Again :D long time ago i had long hair, then it was okay to say it was an honor because it says in the bible?

    Today, my neck locks in place, so i would rather cut my own hair. So what severity it would be in Christ if anyone came to me and said that i am malnourished!

    But if i come to a church where everyone wears a hat on their head, now i do not show my shame-cut head. If it should cause someone to fall, i would put on one hat, and not cause someone to fall. If i dont have a hat i pray for it and the hat to go to meeting with, will come becouse of a pray. If its necessarily, Jesus will give me one or two hats. Amen

    I love Jesus Christ ppl. In His name i could do any thing. Like in 1 Corintians 10:23-24

    God bless us all with understanding and wisdom when He decides In Jesus Holy Name Amen.
  • Property Lines and Ancient Landmarks - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 22:28

    Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.

    Deuteronomy 27:17

    Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.

    Proverbs 23:10

    Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:

    Deuteronomy 19:14

    Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land that the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I 1st thought of the scripture Adam & Spencer Shaw gave you. Then I prayed I might understand what you're looking for.

    Hebrews 10:26-39

    I searched under wisdom & found these. Hopefully these are helpful in what you're looking for: I added a few additional.

    Matthew 12:41-42, Luke 11:31-32, Luke 11:52, Ecclesiastes 10:1, James 3:13-18,

    Ecclesiastes 1:18, Proverbs 17:16,

    Job 11:6-7, Job 26:1-4, Job 28:28,

    Psalms 37:27-31, Psalms 111:10, Proverbs 10,

    Most verses on wisdom are how good & pleasant it is: Proverbs 19:8, Proverbs 23:4, Ecclesiastes 7:12,
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I take it to believe "yea", may not be him rejoicing but even that, has scripture backing Philippians 4:4-9, James 1:2-4, 1 John 4:18,

    even if we walk in/near death we should not fear because GOD promises to be with us (that trust in HIM) Deuteronomy 31:8, Hebrews 13:5-6, John 14:16-21, Psalm 139:1-24, Psalms 37:40,

    The rod; Proverbs 13:24, Job 21:9, Proverbs 29:15, Lamentations 3:1, many times references discipline, correction: Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:14, Proverbs 3:12, Hebrews 12:4-8-11, Staff: Hebrews 11:21, Zechariah 8:4, Exodus 21:19, Numbers 22:27, 2 Samuel 3:29, Judges 6:21

    Hopefully these scriptures help you with the HOLY Spirit to understand deeper. John 14:26, James 1:5
  • ThaddousG on Proverbs 12:11 - 2 years ago
    Be sensible and work your job. It's okay to have a dream but don't leave your sure thing to follow after fleeting pleasures; in the which most are built upon vain fantasies that may or may not come true. Good reference scripture for this verse is 1 Timothy 8-10 and Proverbs 23:4. Also I think the other translations for this scripture are great in conjunction with this one!
  • Chris - In Reply on James 5 - 3 years ago
    The Apostle James, in this chapter, is condemning the rich, as those who made it their god & used it unwisely for their own benefit & pleasure, rather than for the blessing of others & proper payment to their workers. Their riches were consumed upon their own lusts: lusts for living in carnal pleasures & for high, extravagant living. They "nourished their hearts": this paints the picture of over-indulgence, or fattening themselves, as one does for an animal being prepared for eventual slaughter. Such animals were specially looked after, not worked, only lived in quietness with plenty of good grain to feed on. This resembled these 'rich' men as those fatted contented 'cows' who one day have as their only destiny, their complete demise & destruction.

    To find a direct meaning of James 5:5 may not be possible because of the Greek text. However, you could consider the following Scriptures that show a person who lives for self-indulgence or self-gratification to the casting aside of the things of God & holy living.

    Ecclesiastes 2:1-11; Philippians 2:17-19; Proverbs 23:20,21; Ephesians 5:15-19; 1 Corinthians 6:12,13; Matthew 6:19-21.
  • R Burrow - 4 years ago
    wine is a mockery and strong drink is raging and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. ( Proverbs 20:1) Look not upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his color in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. ( Proverbs 23:31-33) who can take a rattle snake in their home and feel safe? In the end we are putting ourselves in danger. We only have to look at the drug, alcohol and wine world today to understand the danger of strong drink. They did call Jesus a winebibber, but they also said he cast out devils by the prince of devils who is Beelzebub. Jesus said that Satan was a liar. ( John 8:44) Jesus was neither, Satan lied.
  • Pastor Pjewole Philip on Proverbs 23 - 5 years ago
    The Bible Proverbs 23:4 doesn't oppose hardwork. It rather wisely advice us not to stretch ourselves beyond limit in quest for wealthy else, one may worn out, becomes greedy, a miser, and above all one may have little or no time for God. It's important to note that it's not hardwork though it's a requirement that brings riches, but God's favour and opportunities Ecclesistes 9:11 .
  • James Huie Locklear on Proverbs 23 - 7 years ago
    Proverbs 23
    10-27
    Summary: In the depths of the "Earth" the wicked is awaken in the "Eyes" of the wicked comes the sins of the "World". Casting out their deadly holds, the "World" becomes a new on the "Back" of the new "Son". Counting amoung your "Peers" holds the secrets of tomorrow. Proverbs 23_ 10-27
  • Hope brown on Genesis 14 - 8 years ago
    No one should be paying tithes, and paying tithes has nothing to do with belief, but rather a lack of Bible knowledge. Abram gave Melchizedek ten percent of the goods he took in battle as he went out to rescue Lot. The goods or spoil was not Abram s possession, he also refused to take any of it. He said: I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich. Those who are preaching tithes are doing so for their own gain and have become the fat "cows" of the churches. Whoever gives, should do so freely. Many christians are burdened due to lack of Bible knowledge. They are struggling to get by while supporting the extravagant lifestyle of greedy Pastors. The problem with many christians is that they tend to pick out Bible verses to sustain their own opinion instead of reading the entire chapter to understand what is said. If we read further we read: 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Jesus does not require ten percent of anything from us, otherwise we should be giving him ten percent of our heart, and money is of no use to him. In Proverbs 23,26 we read My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe my ways.
  • Karen on Proverbs 23 - 8 years ago
    Im going through serious medical issues and proverbs 23 6 7 is exactly what I needed to clarify things.
  • Billly J. Manuel on Psalms 62:10 - 10 years ago
    This regulation which reminds us not to set our hearts upon increased riches is reminiscent of the similar verse in Proverbs 23:5,". . . FOR RICHES CERTAINLY MAKE THEMSELVES WINGS; THEY FLY AWAY AS AN EAGLE TOWARD HEAVEN." The more our trust is in Christ the less the tendency to rely upon the temporal things of this world, and especially should those things come by robbery,violence against or oppression of others. Then we bring upon ourselves bitter sorrow after the ill-gotten gain is gone.
  • Dane on 1 Timothy 5:23 - 10 years ago
    Proverbs 20:1. Proverbs 21:17 Proverbs 23:29-35.
    I'm writing a sermon and part of it is about drinking it's a mo-no....
  • Mike O on 1 Timothy 5:23 - 10 years ago
    The bible nowhere states that red wine in moderation is ok, on the contrary there are many instances where the bible says not to drink at all, zilch, nada, zero. And the cons vs pros for red wine are like how far the east is from the west. The text speaks in Ephesians 5:18-20, Proverbs 23: 29-35, Proverbs 31:6 and many more verses...
  • Susan Dalton on Proverbs 23:10 - 11 years ago
    Remove not the old landmark; Proverbs 23:10. How can one person remove a shared boundary marker without the knowledge and consent of the one with whom he/she shares the boundary and that be not unlawful? If not unlawful, at least, inconsiderate. If we do not recognize shared boundaries, we become insolent toward the one with whom we share the boundary. If two people share a property line, it is a very thin line. In actuality, a line is very thin, though it has two borders. A line has two sides and it shares a very narrow space in between - very small; but cross that very small space and you are on someone else's property. Now, if two share a line, and a marker is set defining that boundary, and one person removes the one and only boundary marker, that person has chosen to remove that which was to mark a boundary for two. That one has removed visibly that which was not only for him/herself, but, which was also for the other. A visual testament to a boundary has been taken away. If someone bought land and the neighbor of that land had been mowing way pass their boundary onto the land that has been recently bought, so that now the new owners have had people come onto their land accusing them of being on someone else's land because those people must have assumed because the other owner mowed so far over if was his land. So, the new owner would go and show the boundary marker so to put to rest the controversy. Now, the boundary marker has been removed - someone dug it up. The plot of land is surveyed, plotted, deeded and recorded, but, for some that visible boundary marker served to show what is legal and recorded. No wonder we have so many acts of insolence and violence in our society. That which is deeded and recorded by God is still the right statues and judgments, but, man has removed many of the old landmarks; some people may know the boundaries without the landmarks, many must not know where the boundaries are; or, even sadder, many just don't care.
  • Timothy Wayne George on Leviticus 10:9 - 11 years ago
    Ministers must be careful to keep this statute to not drink wine or strong drink when you come into the congregation; thou, nor thy sons, less ye die. It was to be kept throughout all your generations forever. It is so important to keep these ordinances before the congregation, to be a good example for the flock. So many today struggle with alcoholism, and it is important that ministers be the role models for the people. When Paul told Timothy to drink a little wine for his infirmities sake, he was not talking about fermented wine. When Jesus turned the water into to wine at the wedding in Galilee, it was not fermented. In Proverbs 23 it talks about not looking at the wine when it is red, and that is when the fermentation starts. May the Lord give ministers the discipline as well as the wisdom, and self control to practice these statutes before the congregation today to help those who are looking for guidance in these matters.
  • JIM BEAN on Joshua 4 - 11 years ago
    Proverbs 22:28 �Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set." Proverbs 23:10 �Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:" THEY SET THE STANDARD BY GOD's COMMAND WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO REMOVE IT. TRUTH WILL STAND JUST AS A ROCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIVER.


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