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  • GiGi on Numbers 8 - 12 months ago
    Numbers Chapter 8

    This chapter first speaks about Aaron lighting the lamps for the 7 branched candlestick, This was specifically Aaron's duty.

    Next, the Levites are consecrated. They bath and are anointed by Moses, The people lay their hands upon their heads.

    This account is described more fully in Leviticus.

    As believers in Christ, the Holy Spirit illuminates our souls in for us to understand the Scriptures. We are to continually yield to Him and not resist or quench His work in us.

    We are to give ourselves wholly to serving God in whatever respect He appoints for us. In order to fulfill our service to God, we need to constantly surrender our will to His as Jesus did, and do so with faith.

    It is our responsibility to do all things to glorify God and avoid all things that are contrary to us giving him honor, glory, and praise.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Separated: Exodus 33:16, Leviticus 20:24, Numbers 6:2, Numbers 16:9, Deuteronomy 10:8, 1Chronicles 23:13, 1Chronicles 25:1, Galatians 1:15,

    Numbers 8:14, 1Kings 8:53, Jeremiah 1:5, Matthew 25:32-41, Luke 6:22, Acts 13:2, 2Corinthians 6:17, Hebrews 7:26, Matthew 22:1-14, 1Peter 2:9,

    Romans 9:21-24,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Tom Cooper - In Reply - 2 years ago
    One or two points I want to put forth.

    According to the book of ( Numbers 4:3, 30) the Levi's or Leviticus priests did not serve until they reach the age of 30 yrs., I believe. However, Numbers 8:24 - 26; says 25, and Ezra 3:8 says 20.

    Secondly, they retired at the age of (50) Fifty. Nevertheless, other books in the cannon also stipulate that Levite men age 25 yrs., or older could take part in the work at the tent.

    Hence, Samuel, was too young to become a priest. I don't believe Samuel in his young age was called to be a priest nor did he fulfilled any priestly functions.

    The Bible declares God regulated the priestly office and limited the age of the priests. Anyone younger or older was not eligible to serve. Also don't know of any specific purpose of this or these age limit.

    Nevertheless, military involvement age was 20 yrs., hence eligibility for priests would be that old likewise. That's the Bible.
  • Philip Christian Parks on Hebrews 8 - 2 years ago
    Regarding Hebrews 8:5 = GOD commanded Moses to construct the Old Testament Tabernacle as the instrument of HIS presenting HIMSELF to Israel ( Exo. 25:22; cp. 30:6 & 36):

    "There I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the Mercy Seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the Ark of the Testimony, of all things which I will give thee in Commandment unto the children of Israel."

    This verse ( Heb. 8:5) records three terms which demonstrate the purpose and value of the Old Testament Levitical Priesthood and of the Tabernacle that GOD commanded Moses to replicate on earth. These terms provide a comprehensive perspective "figure" ( Heb. 9:9) of that which is "of Heavenly Things".

    1st, they served as "the example of Heavenly Things", meaning an exact copy or reproduction of the original and "True Tabernacle, which The LORD pitched, and not man" (v.2). Compare the terms "figure", "pattern", and "fashion" in the following references: Exodus 26:30; 27:8; Numbers 8:4; Acts 7:44; and Hebrews 9:9;

    By design, the example demonstrates the purpose and value of the original. This example is not a counterfeit, but rather a replication of the actual Heavenly Tabernacle which speaks of the saints dwelling in the very Presence of CHRIST ( Rev. 13:6; 15:5; 21:3).

    2nd, they served as a "shadow of Heavenly Things", meaning it only typified, symbolized, represented, and pointed to the Heavenly Tabernacle. A literal shadow is intangible which reveals simply the outline or profile of the actual object. The earthly Tabernacle simply revealed "a figure for the time then present."

    3rd, they served as GOD's earthly "pattern" which was enforced only temporarily until CHRIST established HIS "more Excellent Ministry" (v.6) as exclaimed in Hebrews 10:9-12.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} various washings on Hebrews 9 - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 9:10

    Precious friends, since God is "not the author of Confusion" 1 Corinthians 14:33, Would He not "Have The Biblical Answer" to all The denominational Confusion {I found 10 'Different water baptismal traditions' today...}? Please Be Encouraged And Edified!

    Part 1

    {Borrowed from 12 baptisms "study"} ONE of Israel's various {divers} washings! Greek: Baptismos = Hebrews 9:10:

    4. Levitical priesthood baptism Exodus 29:4 Leviticus 8:6 Numbers 8:7. This washing was The Second Requirement { The First being: "NO blemish!" Leviticus 21:21 }, in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses! Is this baptism in any way connected To baptism # 9?:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25.

    a) Does this baptism "save" anyone Luke 7:29-30?

    b1) Is this baptism in any way "connected" to baptism # 4?

    b2) Wasn't John preparing National Israel for God's Promise For them "to be a nation of priests unto God" Exodus 19:6?

    b3) Was not The Second Requirement for priesthood induction, Washing? { may require re-review of baptism #4! }.

    b4) Did not CHRIST And The Twelve "heal" everyone in Israel who came to them, in order to meet "The FIRST Requirement" For the priesthood, that Of "NO blemish!"? Matthew 4:24 Acts 5:16 cp Leviticus 21:21

    Semi - conclusion? God {has Not 10 baptismS Today, but ONLY} ONE Baptism = Confusion SOLVED! And "PEACE {Not Confusion} In ALL the churches!" 1 Corinthians 14:33 Amen? Link

    More questions - to be continued in Part 2
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Precious brother Chris. So glad you brought up: "'Law Administration' is difficult to comprehend when water baptism was not part of the Law to Israel (except concerning the priesthood as a ritual cleansing)." In regards to this, you may find the following "view of Israel's priesthood" Very Interesting - thanks for your careful/prayerful consideration:

    {Borrowed from my 12 baptisms "study"}: ONE of Israel's various washings! Greek: Baptismos = ( Hebrews 9:10):

    4. Levitical priesthood baptism ( Exodus 29:4) ( Leviticus 8:6) ( Numbers 8:7). This washing was The Second Requirement { The First being: "NO blemish!" ( Leviticus 21:21) }, in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses! Is this baptism in any way connected To baptism # 9?:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25).

    a) Does this baptism "save" anyone ( Luke 7:29-30?)?

    b1) Is this baptism in any way "connected" to baptism # 4?

    b2) Wasn't John preparing National Israel for God's Promise For them "to be a nation of priests unto God" ( Exodus 19:6!)?

    b3) Was not The Second Requirement for priesthood induction, Washing? { may require re-review of baptism #4! }.

    b4) Did not CHRIST And The Twelve "heal" everyone in Israel who came to them, in order to meet "The FIRST Requirement" For the priesthood, that Of "NO blemish!"? ( Matthew 4:24) ( Acts 5:16) compare: ( Leviticus 21:21)

    More questions - to be continued
  • Philip Christian Parks on Hebrews 8 - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 8:5 = GOD commanded Moses to construct the Old Testament Tabernacle as the instrument of HIS presenting HIM-SELF to Israel ( Exo. 25:22; cp. 30:6 & 36):

    "There I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the Mercy Seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the Ark of the Testimony, of all things which I will give thee in Commandment unto the children of Israel."

    This verse ( Heb. 8:5) records three terms which demonstrates the purpose and value of the Old Testament Levitical Priesthood and of the Tabernacle that GOD commanded Moses to replicate on earth to provide a comprehensive perspective "figure" ( Heb. 9:9) of that which is "of Heavenly Things".

    1st, they served as "the example of Heavenly Things", meaning an exact copy or reproduction of the original and "True Tabernacle, which The LORD pitched, and not man" (v.2). Compare the terms "figure", "pat-tern", and "fashion" in the following references: Exodus 26:30; 27:8; Numbers 8:4; Acts 7:44; and Hebrews 9:9;

    2nd, they served as a "shadow of Heavenly Things", meaning it only typified, symbolized, represented, and point-ed to the Heavenly Tabernacle. A literal shadow is intangible which reveals simply the outline or profile of the actual object. The earthly Tabernacle simply revealed a "a figure for the time then present."

    By design, the example demonstrates the purpose and value of the original. This example is not a counterfeit, but rather a replication of the actual Heavenly Tabernacle which speaks of the saints dwelling in the very Presence of CHRIST ( Rev. 13:6; 15:5; 21:3).

    3rd, they served as GOD's earthly "pattern" which was enforced only temporarily until CHRIST established HIS "more Excellent Ministry" (v.6) as exclaimed in Hebrews 10:9-12.
  • Patricia on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    I would like to request prayers for my 18 year old daughter. she had broken free from a relationship that was very toxic and unhealthy. There was physical and mental abuse caused by this man. She was doing so well and this past weekend she made a bad decision and is now with him again. I fear for her safety and need prayers to keep her safe and find her way back home again.
  • Cindy - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    I second this prayer. May God have mercy on us all.
  • Hugh Flores on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Pray for our cities and states pray against the spirits of lunaticks and legions in the name of Jesus Christ.
  • Mishael on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Proverbs 30:3

    I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.

    Proverbs 9:10

    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

    Search Box. 'Knowledge of the Holy'
  • Kourtney Wager - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    The Bible says that we go to sleep. I have wondered that too. I believe we are "asleep" until the Judgement seat of Christ.

    My mom past a few years ago, I am very sorry for your loss.

    Kourtney
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Hello Cindy,

    Here is a couple more verses to go along with the verse from Romans Jesse posted:

    Leviticus 18:22 Thou(man) shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 18:24-25 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

    And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

    ( 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves(homosexual) with mankind,

    Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    Verse eleven showing there is forgiveness if there is repentance.

    God Bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Hi Cindy,

    ,

    Romans 1:18-28 (KJV) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    Wherefore God also gave them up to UNCLEANNESS through the lusts of their own hearts, to DISHONOUR THEIR OWN BODIES between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST NATURE:

    And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
  • Jesse - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Cindy,

    Romans chapter 1 covers that. Take a look at Romans 1:27.
  • Cindy on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    What does the Bible say of homosexuality
  • Church - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Golgotha
  • Cindy - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Yes, they know what what is happening on earth.

    Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
  • Carleton - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Well, frog and toad discussed and acted on that one last cookie, from their example I post.

    Accountability by brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus has a lot of value.

    Carleton
  • Dawn Dodgen - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    It's a sad thing to know so many Christians, who've sat every Sunday morning in a church pew, can be so lost - being taught man's traditions rather than the true Word of God. They haven't been taught the Key of David is knowing satan comes first - BEFORE Christ, and telling everyone that he is going to rapture them out of here; we learn in Ezekiel ch.13 that God is AGAINST that - yet people grab on to it like a security blanket. Also, to know who the Kenite's are.

    This will be my last post/reply, and I ask for no more posts/replies to me as I am not the one who is confused. I will keep all of you, though, in my prayers.

    By the way, I do have a great Bible - it's called The King James (Version) Bible. It's the ONLY Bible I study with.
  • Lana Williams on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    In whose tomb was Jesus buried?
  • Lana Williams on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Where was Jesus crucified?
  • Paul S Selchow - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    The genealogy listed lists only the line of Christ. It lists from Adam to Jesus Christ. Cain would not be listed by the gospel writers as he wasn't part of the line. It went from Adam to Seth etc. The decedents of Seth are referred to the sons of God, and the decedents of Cain were referred to as the sons of men. ( Gen 6:2) There were, since that first generation, 2 lines, one was God's people, one was the followers of satan (or those who didn't follow God).
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Bessie,

    "And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."Mar 7:9-13

    Corban was referring to something that has been set aside as a gift to be given to God at some later date, but which is still in the possession of the owner. According to contemporary Jewish tradition the person who made this claim was absolved from responsibility to support or assist his parents, a clear violation of the Mosaic law to honor one's parents.

    Today, we are not under the Mosaic Law and other financial options may be available to people in retirement. But this, too, does not absolve a child from taking care of elderly or disabled parents who may need financial, emotional and spiritual support.

    Honor your mother and father as you ought.
  • Chris - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Have a look at 1 Timothy 5:4-8.

    Even though this passage speaks specifically about widows who, in those days, were generally quite helpless without a bread-winner, I believe the same imperative applied to any family member/parent who needed financial or other help to cope with life. So children & any other family member had a duty of care to his family just as they did to those in the Church family.
  • Rightly Dividing The Word of God - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Study a bit more thoroughly. Use the reference columns in a good study Bible.

    Satan was a covering cherub. HE WAS CREATED. His job was to lead praise and worship. He was jeweled. Well he got to liking it and wanted the praise for himself.

    As soon as he coveted it, He started war in heaven. Type that in the search box. Look in Revelation.

    Finally God tells Michael to hurl Satan to earth; with the 1/3 angels that followed Satan.

    Folks. In Genesis 1:1

    The First thing God did (the Godhead)

    Was CREATE TIME. The Godhead lives inside of earth time; AND they live outside of time.

    Then God purposed. Jesus the Word of God spoke it ( John 1:1). The Holy Spirit performed what was spoken.

    Before anything occurred in Genesis, GOD SAW IT.

    Adam and Eve were spirit, soul and flesh: 3 part humans. God gave them FREE WILL.

    God has PERFECT WILL

    Satan has EVIL WILL

    MAN (and woman) have FREE WILL. They had power to choose.

    When they disobeyed Gods Word NOT to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (it's written): they used their free will, and died spiritually. They were flesh and soul. Separated from God.

    The Godhead immediately cast them out of the Garden so they would not eat of the tree of LIFE (eternal life). The tree of Life was moved to heaven (see Revelation).

    God then killed an animal (blood sacrifice for sin) and made them clothes. Adam failed. In the fullness of TIME, Jesus came as 2nd Adam to redeem mankind and once and for all time pay for the sins of every human; born and unborn.

    For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten son ...

    Stop making up stuff about this that only confuses people about the Genesis stories. Get a good study Bible with CENTER of each page, reference columns to other passages that give additional information. It has little abc's imbedded in the scriptures. They point to prophesies, go forward to the New Testament or backwards.

    You gotta have it.

    Mishael
  • Dawn Dodgen - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Lol - an apple.

    What was satan? - he was a cherub, an angel.

    What did God say in Gen. 1:26? - "Let us make man in OUR image..." - I believe God was talking to the angels meaning the angels are in the form like a man. After all, the angels who appeared to Lot were as men; the angel, Gabriel appeared as a man. We can't leave out the fact that the fallen angels ("sons of God" - Gen. 6:2) were able to impregnate women - that's where the giants, or the nephilim*, came from. They had to be in the form of men. Satan, the serpent, would also be able to wholly seduce/beguile Eve and conceive a child with her.

    As for Adam taking a 'bite from the apple' - it isn't specific, but I believe satan, who has as the power, given to him by God, to do wonderous things ( Matthew 24:24), could beguile Adam as well - perhaps by appearing as a female or even a homosexual act.

    There shouldn't be any question that both Adam and Eve covered their private parts with fig leaves, because they both knew they were "naked." Leviticus ch.18 is very clear about the meaning of naked (nakedness).

    *From Appendix 25 From The Companion Bible - E.W. Bullinger

  • SkipVought - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Dawn,

    "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, EIGHT SOULS were saved by water." 1Pe 3:20

    Noah, his three sons and each of their wives: EIGHT SOULS. No "Kenites!" Genesis 6:19 is not referring to humans. You forgot to include the next verse.

    Yes, Noah was uncorrupted in his genealogy, which is why the rest of mankind was destroyed in the flood.

    There is one race, humans, where skin shade and other features were built into the our DNA. The "races" resulted from the separation of people groups by language and subsequent migration at Babel in Genesis 11, in order to force mankind to "fill the earth." I'm not tying any particular "race" to Canaan.
  • Yolanda Jackson on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    My only Sister died about 8 months ago and we were super close. She was very saddened after the death of her oldest son, she would die leaving a husband and 2 other sons. Is she aware of what is happening on earth?
  • Dawn Elizabeth Dodgen - In Reply on Numbers 8 - 3 years ago
    Of course Christ didn't descend from Cain - Christ came umbilical cord to umbilical cord from Seth. This fact I will never budge from.


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