I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)
They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.
It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.
After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).
I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.
Thank you Dianne. I did read up on the Lamsa Bible (George Lamsa) & particularly on Matthew 27:46 & how he has interpreted it. I guess he has his own way of looking at the words & grammar, just as there are many variations of interpretations given by others (Westcott & Hort, etc). What was of interest & concern to me, was that he didn't connect Matthew 27:46 to Psalm 22:1, rather said "that the text of the Gospels was corrupt and that it is not a quotation but should read /Eli, Eli, lemana shabaqthani, which he translates as: "My God, my God, for this I was spared!" An accompanying footnote in Lamsa's English version of the Bible explains Jesus' meaning as "This was my destiny.""
If that being the case & he doesn't make the connection between the two portions of Scripture, then what else can one say? Thanks again for your input: I can now appreciate the basis of your understanding & interpretation, at least of these passages.
Jamie, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the sixth seal....
Jesus is telling (not literally) the saints in the Old testament (those described in Hebrews 11) to wait a while longer and they would be glorified at his resurrection.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when Christ was crucified and resurrected.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour was there darkness over all the land until the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ...And the earth did quake ....
John 19:34 ....And forthwith came there out blood...
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the (old Testament) saints which slept AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the grave after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.
This is the one hundred and forty four thousand that are sealed in Revelation 7.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Christ replaced it with his death) and the abomination that maketh DESOLATE (Jesus had to become your life) set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (42 months, Christ ministry on earth).
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
There was 45 days of silence between Christ Resurrection and Pentecost then the Holy Spirit was poured out on man (Christ second coming).
You got it! Barabbas had the same name and title as Christ. What I find interesting is that at every Passover, the Roman official would say I'm going to do something kind for the Jewish people because at that time the Jews were under the Roman government. So this particular Passover, the Roman government decided that they would release from jail any prisoner the Jews wanted as a gift back to them.
So Pilate is thinking "Hey, tell you what I'll do. I'll beat Jesus up some and whip Him some and maybe they'll look at Him all beat up and think, well you know, that's enough!" And he says, I'll tell you what. Now that I have beaten Him I'll release Him to you to fulfill this gift. I'll pronounce Him guilty and then I'll release Him.
I can't help but wonder why in Matthew 27:17, Pilate would phrase it that way? Why did he call Him Jesus the one who is called Christ? They all knew who He was but He said it in a certain way for certain reason.
It is because Barabbas name was Jesus, Yeshua Barabbas. And Christ is Yeshua Ha'Mashiach. Both people were named Jesus. Both had the name Jesus son of the father. The name Barabbas, in Aramaic, "bar" is the word for son, and "Abbas" is the word for father. His name was the savior, the son of the father. Interesting!
They had a face-to-face encounter with the true savior, and the false savior. The other Gospels say that Barabbas was one of the most evil criminals that there ever was. He was an insurrectionist. He was a murderer, he was the thief, and he was in jail for life. So what Pilate did was he pulled Barabbas out and said, they are not going to want Barabbas on the street because he is the worst criminal there is. Verse 16 says that he was a "notable" prisoner.
So, do you want Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ? Which Jesus son of the father do you want? You see, there is Jesus who is called Barabbas and a Jesus who is called Christ.
I just wanted to share this. I myself find it fascinating!
Dawn, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
The people in the Old Testament couldn't have eternal life upon the death of their flesh; they had to lay in the grave and wait for Christ resurrection.
The gospel was preached to them of that coming PROMISE (Christ in you, perfection, eternal life).
Those that DIED IN FAITH was rewarded with that promise when Christ was resurrected.
Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the PROMISE.
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us (we would made perfect never seeing death), that they without should be made perfect.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves AFTER HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the Holy city (New Jerusalem), and were seen by many.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let US (plural) make man in OUR (not my) image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. (22) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as WE are one:
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
(31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his name JESUS.
(32) He shall be great, and shall be called the SON of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
John 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father (not Joseph) honour. (27) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Mark 10:40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is NOT MINE to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
Brother Carl, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and his understanding.
Revelation 22:6 ...sent his angel to shew unto his servants the THINGS which must be SHORTLY DONE.
Revelation 22:10 ....for the time is at hand.
NO ONE could be BORN AGAIN until the seventh seal was opened.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, an lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the terrible and great day of the Lord come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when John the baptist began preaching the kingdom of God.
Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and those that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the EARTHQUAKE and those things which were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Matthew 27:47 Now from the sixth hour there was DARKNESS over the land until the ninth hour.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there BLOOD and water.
Jesus was crucified when the sixth seal was opened.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice shall be take away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred ninety days.
Forty two months, three and a half years, time and times and a half. Jesus ministry in the flesh, ending in his death and resurrection. Then silence until forty five days latter and PENTECOST.
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the one thousand three hundred thirty days.
At Pentecost THE MYSTERY was revealed, the seal on Daniel's prophecy was opened: CHRIST IN YOU
Brother Judge, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had open the SIXTH SEAL, and , lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood;
This was fulfilled at CHRIST death and resurrection. This prophecy is in:
Joel 2:3 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD COME.
The one hundred forty four thousand in Revelation 7 are the Old Testament saints that were raised with Christ at his resurrection.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints WHICH SLEPT AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the HOLY CITY (New Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
These Old Testament saints all died in FAITH; but, was never able to receive the promise of eternal life until Christ resurrection. This is shown in:
Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise (eternal life).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US (eternal life), that THEY without US should not BE MADE PERFECT (accomplished by the death and resurrection of Christ).
YES, thy along with John and all other saints now IN CHRIST are MINISTERING SPIRITS; to us, HERE and NOW.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, SENT FORTH to minister FOR THEM WHO SHALL BE HEIRS OF SALVATION.
This is the role of ALL IN CHRIST at the time they are GLORIFIED.
RICHARD LAWRENCE BORYS on Matthew 27:25 - 2 years ago
Why would people, let's assume were bad or at least wrong, to have pushed for the execution of Jesus, be right, worthy of being listening to, when they hold their descendants responsible, and by extension, blameworthy, as well as them? Should not the proclamations of bad, or wrong, people be held with suspicion?
Matthew 27:17 says "Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:"
This was written for the Jews. What the Jews would do is they would use their housetops like a patio. It is where they would sit at night because of the heat. Jesus says let the one who is on the housetops (Jews) not come down to take anything out of his house.
That is how urgent things are going to be for them (The Jews). In Verse 16, they are told to flee. They are to flee immediately. There will be no time to go into the house to gather their belongings. I'm not sure if they still do, but the Jews had an outside stairway that goes up to the roof. So they are told to just go down the stairs and head on out to the mountains.
It is the same thing in Verse 18 with the ones who are out in the field. They are also to flee to the mountains. They are not to return home first to gather any of their belongings or check on loved ones. It will be very urgent for them and there will be no time to waste.
Jannelle, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith (CHRIST IS OUR FAITH), preached before the GOSPEL unto Abraham, saying in thee shall all these nations be blessed.
Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, AS WELL AS UNTO THEM: but the word (CHRIST) preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them (CHRIST IN THEM) that heard it.
The GOSPEL IS:
2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest (Christ in the flesh) by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath ABOLISHED DEATH, and hath brought LIFE and IMMORTALITY to light through the gospel.
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil (alive to the flesh), for the devil sinneth from the beginning, For this purpose (gospel) the Son of Man was MANIFESTED, that he might destroy THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.
This is the GOSPEL: You (seed of flesh) died on the cross with Christ and you (seed of Spirit) was RAISED with HIM.
The saints of old received this promise also at HIS RESURRECTION
Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having received a good report through faith, received not the promise (victory over sin and death) (CHRIST IN US):
Hebrews 11:49 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect (accomplished at Christ death and resurrection).
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves at HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.
The very station in life that your friend finds demeaning is rather a great honor and a gift from God.
From the beginning, man was created to work for God ( Genesis 2:15). The woman was then specially created as the help most suitable to accomplish that purpose ( Genesis 2:20-25).
The Lord's value system is quite opposite what the world judges worthwhile. If your friend knows the forgiveness and redemption gained by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection from the dead, then she has an eternal purpose and reward in the perfect will of God. ( 1 Corinthians 15:58, 1 Peter 3)
Being an excellent mother carries a far greater weight of glory and influence than any of the vain achievements or self promotion touted in this world's marketplace. ( Proverbs 31:10-31)
The Bible has many accounts of women who by faith achieved great things for the Lord, including:
Sara: Hebrews 11:11-12
Rebekah: Genesis 24-27
Leah and Rachel: Genesis 29-
Shiphrah and Puah: Exodus 1:15-21
Moses' mother and sister Miriam: Exodus 2
Rahab: Joshua 2, Joshua 6
Deborah: Judges 4
Jael: Judges 4
Naomi and Ruth: Ruth 1-4
Hannah: 1 Samuel 1-2
Esther: Esther 1-10
Elisabeth: Luke 1
Mary: Matthew 1-
Martha and Mary: Luke 10, John 11
The faithful women at the crucifixion of Jesus after the disciples fled: Matthew 27:55-56
Mary Magdalene: Mark 16, John 20 - (The very first person to meet the risen Lord Jesus Christ),
along with many other notable followers in the early church.
Hello James. As far as I know, the Bible is silent on this topic, probably because it was not a practice of God's people, rather more in line to what the heathen would do. The references that come up are found in the Old Testament: 1 Samuel 31:11-13; Amos 2:1; Leviticus 20:14. However, Israel generally resorted to burial in a tomb, cave or ground: Genesis 23:19; 2 Chronicles 16:14; Matthew 27:57-60.
So, the Church is not given a specific direction on this, as ultimately, the body returns to dust "from whence it came" ( Ecclesiastes 12:7). It then becomes the decision by the family of the departed to have a burial or a cremation, depending on preference, costs, or availability. My choice would always be for a burial, in line with what was practised by Israel.
Dear Philip Christian, Thank you! It does seem as long as time on earth continues that Satan can run to and fro even partially bound by the Gospel which is the finished work of Jesus at Calvary. His time is short now and his end will be sudden without mercy. God's faithful Church will prevail and many souls that have died the first death which is to sin, will with Jesus have everlasting life as a Holy, consummated marriage in Heaven. While time remains, Satan can suggest to the mind to do this or that but the True Christian saint knows to turn the mind the place of refuge at their born again experience and the comforting peace in their bosoms by God's grace and reign of Jesus Christ.
Philip Christian Parks on Matthew 27:54 - 3 years ago
Satan ( Rom. 16:20) = "Satan" is the proper name of the devil and translates from the Greek (transliterated "Satanas"; pronounced Sat-an-AS").
The name "Satan" means "adversary" (cp. 1Pet. 5:8) who opposes GOD and CHRIST, HIS Church, and every believing saint by any and all means and resources possible.
The New Testament most often identifies Satan as "the Devil" which literally means "the slanderer or false accuser". Slanders and false accusations are just two methods Satan uses against GOD's people.
Philip Christian Parks on Matthew 27:54 - 3 years ago
"the GOD of Peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly"; v.20 =
There exists a perpetual spiritual warfare between GOD's People and Satan. If Satan cannot destroy Christians, he certainly desires to make them spiritually impotent, or worse, to cause turmoil within the church by destroying their peace.
Paul's expression, "under your feet shortly", may allude to Israel's victory over the five kings of principle cities, led by "Adonizedek, king of Jerusalem". Joshua humiliated them ( Jos. 10:24-25).
The verb "bruise" had a far more powerful and descriptive meaning in ancient times, for it literally means to irreparably and permanently break or crush to death.
Paul reminded the Roman saints, and the saints of all ages, of JEHOVAH GOD's pronounced condemnation on Satan for tempting Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden ( Gen. 3:15). There, GOD proclaimed HIS Ultimate SEED of the woman (Eve), namely LORD JESUS CHRIST "shall bruise {a DIVINE guarantee} thy (Satan's) head."
Here, the word "shortly" does not speak of the occurrence within the very near future, but rather, when GOD does bruise Satan, HE will do so in a very quick fashion.
The word "shortly" translates from the from the Greek adverb root (transliterated "tachu"; pronounced "takh-OO"), and derives English nouns such as "taxi" and "tachometer."
The adverb implies that when GOD does "bruise Satan", the event will occur instantaneously and nothing will hinder it, nor will Satan have time to react.
Of note, CHRIST used the same adverb to describe HIS Second Coming ( Rev. 22:7, 12, 20). The adverb could mean "suddenly", "without delay", "soon", and "speedily".
My grandson had a similar question. "If God knew that Adam would fall and bring death into the world, why did He create us?"
My answer was "Love." God wanted someone to love and be loved by. Why did you have children? Even though God knew of all the bad that would happen by creating man, He concentrated on the good; the love He would give and the love He would receive in return.
He gave man the ability to choose because you cannot have love without choice. Without choice you have robots. So in God's great wisdom He saw man failing and prepared a way for him to be redeemed. All for the purpose of love.
Joh 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
As I'd just like to reply to your post and just to bring peace. Like I stated how I agree with Jesse on his view I also agree with you on this. As you give solid reasons in you posts. How even angels have been known to have sinned and turn from God.
Me giving the answer of "yes and no" to this question of OSAS I'm sure would not hold up well to most. Though as I stated that God knows who shall endure until the end as in Matthew 24:13 being they that shall be saved. The Lord knowing His sheep. Though we as men should not take this situation lightly at all. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. As we have been bought with a price and we are His children 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. To live by His Will not our own and to follow our Lord Jesus Christ with zeal.
Taking this in the way of the parable of the sower in Matthew 13:18-23, seems to be accurate. In that those who fall away may have not even been truly saved in the first place. Though only God can really answer that truthfully.
We must strive to not lose our savor as our Lord told us. To run the race till the end keeping the faith.
Again I also side with you in that this is no small matter to take lightly as some may today. Just reading through the first three chapters of Revelation and seeing how Jesus Christ spake unto the churches. Having good things to say and bad things to get them to repent of and focus on Him. Sometimes I say to some people "Would you want the Lord to be happy with you or disappointed in you"?
We have been Blessed with free will. This is what makes people who endure till the end even more special. With a pure heart. To one day be glorified and be with our Lord where He is. Amen.
My apologies for that mistake my sister Toni. Forgive me.
I very much appreciate your touching replies.
Just as you stated in Matthew 22:14. That those of us who truly accept Jesus Christ as our Salvation and give our lives to Him. I believe have been chosen by God and are very precious to Him. As He is everything to us and knows our hearts. All being important members of the body of Christ. Not that I was trying to boast or anything when I stated that to him. Just what was in my heart. I was surprised when I heard the reply I received about that detail.
Here are a couple other Scriptures of being "chosen". Ephesians 1:4, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 Peter 2:3-5.
It appears you're receiving mostly responses that de-emphasize obedience. I do not believe once saved always saved, because of Matthew 12:22-32 and so many other verses. I think if that was true Jesus would not have continually warned his followers (Christians) over and over through parables and stories about obedience and keeping His commandments and avoiding sin. It takes effort. It literally addresses this already in the Bible- saying that people used it as a license to sin and "abuse" grace: Jude 1:4, Hebrews 10:26, James 2:14-26, John 14:15, James 2:19. I fully believe all the verses others shared with you above, but unfortunately it appears most are sharing an imbalanced perspective. The Word speaks for itself and does not say once saved, always saved. Christians can and do turn from the faith, unfortunately, and sometimes a % go in the complete opposite direction and do horrific things, just like any other person can who does evil and follows the world or satan. I'm responding, because I think it's important that you not listen to men, but to the Word and pray and ask God for wisdom that you will know the truth. There are many false prophets and fake news being spread and we know who is behind that. God bless...
I would suggest reading the whole chapter, also Hebrew chapter 11, but these are just a couple, throughout the NT. I hope this helps
Ephesians 2:8-10 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God, Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
But, it's so refreshing to read someone speak God's Word in truth, especially in the times we live in, where it seems so many people are moving away from sound doctrine.
By the way, I wanted to affirm what you said about being chosen. I think you mentioned in a post that someone corrected you and said people are called.
But, I was just reading today where the Word of God says, "Many are called but few chosen." ( Matthew 22:14) So, lots of people are called, but only those who walk away from the world and take a stand for Christ and walk in Him daily, are chosen. Thank God for being a chosen vessel in which the Lord can use and dwell in!
There's a link out on the all red page that says: Become A Believer.
It answers 99% of some of your questions. I know when you are a new believer, it's kinda daunting to find everything in one place. Start reading in the book of John; and then back up and read Matthew, Mark and Luke. Pick up again in the book of Romans. This is where we find most of the answers.
We are here to bring praise to his name, for his goodwill and pleasure. God is Sovereign, we need him, not the other way around. I tell you my friend read his word, pray the answer will always come just as he sees fit.
Below are some verses that cover this topic
Philippines 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure
Ephesians 1:5-6 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved
Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
2 Thessalonians 1:10-12 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
We are a Christian family. Having raised our children in an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. My grown daughter, who no longer lives at home, had a question that I could not give or think of a satisfactory answer. My Pastor's wife could neither think of an answer that was adequate in explanation. The most I could come up with was that we are here, so God has friends.......aka to fellowship with Him. That is not going to be satisfactory for her. Does anyone have a better explanation? Thank you for your help.
I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)
They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.
It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.
After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).
I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.
RLW
If that being the case & he doesn't make the connection between the two portions of Scripture, then what else can one say? Thanks again for your input: I can now appreciate the basis of your understanding & interpretation, at least of these passages.
Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the sixth seal....
Jesus is telling (not literally) the saints in the Old testament (those described in Hebrews 11) to wait a while longer and they would be glorified at his resurrection.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when Christ was crucified and resurrected.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour was there darkness over all the land until the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ...And the earth did quake ....
John 19:34 ....And forthwith came there out blood...
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the (old Testament) saints which slept AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the grave after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.
This is the one hundred and forty four thousand that are sealed in Revelation 7.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Christ replaced it with his death) and the abomination that maketh DESOLATE (Jesus had to become your life) set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (42 months, Christ ministry on earth).
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
There was 45 days of silence between Christ Resurrection and Pentecost then the Holy Spirit was poured out on man (Christ second coming).
You got it! Barabbas had the same name and title as Christ. What I find interesting is that at every Passover, the Roman official would say I'm going to do something kind for the Jewish people because at that time the Jews were under the Roman government. So this particular Passover, the Roman government decided that they would release from jail any prisoner the Jews wanted as a gift back to them.
So Pilate is thinking "Hey, tell you what I'll do. I'll beat Jesus up some and whip Him some and maybe they'll look at Him all beat up and think, well you know, that's enough!" And he says, I'll tell you what. Now that I have beaten Him I'll release Him to you to fulfill this gift. I'll pronounce Him guilty and then I'll release Him.
I can't help but wonder why in Matthew 27:17, Pilate would phrase it that way? Why did he call Him Jesus the one who is called Christ? They all knew who He was but He said it in a certain way for certain reason.
It is because Barabbas name was Jesus, Yeshua Barabbas. And Christ is Yeshua Ha'Mashiach. Both people were named Jesus. Both had the name Jesus son of the father. The name Barabbas, in Aramaic, "bar" is the word for son, and "Abbas" is the word for father. His name was the savior, the son of the father. Interesting!
They had a face-to-face encounter with the true savior, and the false savior. The other Gospels say that Barabbas was one of the most evil criminals that there ever was. He was an insurrectionist. He was a murderer, he was the thief, and he was in jail for life. So what Pilate did was he pulled Barabbas out and said, they are not going to want Barabbas on the street because he is the worst criminal there is. Verse 16 says that he was a "notable" prisoner.
So, do you want Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ? Which Jesus son of the father do you want? You see, there is Jesus who is called Barabbas and a Jesus who is called Christ.
I just wanted to share this. I myself find it fascinating!
The people in the Old Testament couldn't have eternal life upon the death of their flesh; they had to lay in the grave and wait for Christ resurrection.
The gospel was preached to them of that coming PROMISE (Christ in you, perfection, eternal life).
Those that DIED IN FAITH was rewarded with that promise when Christ was resurrected.
Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the PROMISE.
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us (we would made perfect never seeing death), that they without should be made perfect.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves AFTER HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the Holy city (New Jerusalem), and were seen by many.
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. (22) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as WE are one:
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
(31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his name JESUS.
(32) He shall be great, and shall be called the SON of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
John 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father (not Joseph) honour. (27) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Mark 10:40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is NOT MINE to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
Revelation 22:6 ...sent his angel to shew unto his servants the THINGS which must be SHORTLY DONE.
Revelation 22:10 ....for the time is at hand.
NO ONE could be BORN AGAIN until the seventh seal was opened.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, an lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the terrible and great day of the Lord come.
The DAY OF THE LORD came when John the baptist began preaching the kingdom of God.
Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and those that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the EARTHQUAKE and those things which were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Matthew 27:47 Now from the sixth hour there was DARKNESS over the land until the ninth hour.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there BLOOD and water.
Jesus was crucified when the sixth seal was opened.
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE in heaven about the space of half an hour.
This fulfils the prophecy in:
Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice shall be take away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred ninety days.
Forty two months, three and a half years, time and times and a half. Jesus ministry in the flesh, ending in his death and resurrection. Then silence until forty five days latter and PENTECOST.
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the one thousand three hundred thirty days.
At Pentecost THE MYSTERY was revealed, the seal on Daniel's prophecy was opened: CHRIST IN YOU
became possible.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had open the SIXTH SEAL, and , lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood;
This was fulfilled at CHRIST death and resurrection. This prophecy is in:
Joel 2:3 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD COME.
The one hundred forty four thousand in Revelation 7 are the Old Testament saints that were raised with Christ at his resurrection.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints WHICH SLEPT AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the HOLY CITY (New Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
These Old Testament saints all died in FAITH; but, was never able to receive the promise of eternal life until Christ resurrection. This is shown in:
Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise (eternal life).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US (eternal life), that THEY without US should not BE MADE PERFECT (accomplished by the death and resurrection of Christ).
YES, thy along with John and all other saints now IN CHRIST are MINISTERING SPIRITS; to us, HERE and NOW.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, SENT FORTH to minister FOR THEM WHO SHALL BE HEIRS OF SALVATION.
This is the role of ALL IN CHRIST at the time they are GLORIFIED.
Matthew 27:17 says "Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:"
This was written for the Jews. What the Jews would do is they would use their housetops like a patio. It is where they would sit at night because of the heat. Jesus says let the one who is on the housetops (Jews) not come down to take anything out of his house.
That is how urgent things are going to be for them (The Jews). In Verse 16, they are told to flee. They are to flee immediately. There will be no time to go into the house to gather their belongings. I'm not sure if they still do, but the Jews had an outside stairway that goes up to the roof. So they are told to just go down the stairs and head on out to the mountains.
It is the same thing in Verse 18 with the ones who are out in the field. They are also to flee to the mountains. They are not to return home first to gather any of their belongings or check on loved ones. It will be very urgent for them and there will be no time to waste.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith (CHRIST IS OUR FAITH), preached before the GOSPEL unto Abraham, saying in thee shall all these nations be blessed.
Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, AS WELL AS UNTO THEM: but the word (CHRIST) preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them (CHRIST IN THEM) that heard it.
The GOSPEL IS:
2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest (Christ in the flesh) by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath ABOLISHED DEATH, and hath brought LIFE and IMMORTALITY to light through the gospel.
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil (alive to the flesh), for the devil sinneth from the beginning, For this purpose (gospel) the Son of Man was MANIFESTED, that he might destroy THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.
This is the GOSPEL: You (seed of flesh) died on the cross with Christ and you (seed of Spirit) was RAISED with HIM.
The saints of old received this promise also at HIS RESURRECTION
Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having received a good report through faith, received not the promise (victory over sin and death) (CHRIST IN US):
Hebrews 11:49 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect (accomplished at Christ death and resurrection).
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves at HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.
From the beginning, man was created to work for God ( Genesis 2:15). The woman was then specially created as the help most suitable to accomplish that purpose ( Genesis 2:20-25).
The Lord's value system is quite opposite what the world judges worthwhile. If your friend knows the forgiveness and redemption gained by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection from the dead, then she has an eternal purpose and reward in the perfect will of God. ( 1 Corinthians 15:58, 1 Peter 3)
Being an excellent mother carries a far greater weight of glory and influence than any of the vain achievements or self promotion touted in this world's marketplace. ( Proverbs 31:10-31)
The Bible has many accounts of women who by faith achieved great things for the Lord, including:
Sara: Hebrews 11:11-12
Rebekah: Genesis 24-27
Leah and Rachel: Genesis 29-
Shiphrah and Puah: Exodus 1:15-21
Moses' mother and sister Miriam: Exodus 2
Rahab: Joshua 2, Joshua 6
Deborah: Judges 4
Jael: Judges 4
Naomi and Ruth: Ruth 1-4
Hannah: 1 Samuel 1-2
Esther: Esther 1-10
Elisabeth: Luke 1
Mary: Matthew 1-
Martha and Mary: Luke 10, John 11
The faithful women at the crucifixion of Jesus after the disciples fled: Matthew 27:55-56
Mary Magdalene: Mark 16, John 20 - (The very first person to meet the risen Lord Jesus Christ),
along with many other notable followers in the early church.
So, the Church is not given a specific direction on this, as ultimately, the body returns to dust "from whence it came" ( Ecclesiastes 12:7). It then becomes the decision by the family of the departed to have a burial or a cremation, depending on preference, costs, or availability. My choice would always be for a burial, in line with what was practised by Israel.
May the Lord bless you richly as well. And thanks for those additional scriptures!
The children of God must daily keep pressing toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in our Lord Jesus Christ!
We have to be bold, stay encouraged and endure always like a good soldier in Christ.
Stay strong my brother in the Lord!
Beside me a lamb with eyes like a human and similar to the eyes on the Egyptian stone that I saw in a photo several years later.
written in love.
The name "Satan" means "adversary" (cp. 1Pet. 5:8) who opposes GOD and CHRIST, HIS Church, and every believing saint by any and all means and resources possible.
The New Testament most often identifies Satan as "the Devil" which literally means "the slanderer or false accuser". Slanders and false accusations are just two methods Satan uses against GOD's people.
There exists a perpetual spiritual warfare between GOD's People and Satan. If Satan cannot destroy Christians, he certainly desires to make them spiritually impotent, or worse, to cause turmoil within the church by destroying their peace.
Paul's expression, "under your feet shortly", may allude to Israel's victory over the five kings of principle cities, led by "Adonizedek, king of Jerusalem". Joshua humiliated them ( Jos. 10:24-25).
The verb "bruise" had a far more powerful and descriptive meaning in ancient times, for it literally means to irreparably and permanently break or crush to death.
Paul reminded the Roman saints, and the saints of all ages, of JEHOVAH GOD's pronounced condemnation on Satan for tempting Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden ( Gen. 3:15). There, GOD proclaimed HIS Ultimate SEED of the woman (Eve), namely LORD JESUS CHRIST "shall bruise {a DIVINE guarantee} thy (Satan's) head."
Here, the word "shortly" does not speak of the occurrence within the very near future, but rather, when GOD does bruise Satan, HE will do so in a very quick fashion.
The word "shortly" translates from the from the Greek adverb root (transliterated "tachu"; pronounced "takh-OO"), and derives English nouns such as "taxi" and "tachometer."
The adverb implies that when GOD does "bruise Satan", the event will occur instantaneously and nothing will hinder it, nor will Satan have time to react.
Of note, CHRIST used the same adverb to describe HIS Second Coming ( Rev. 22:7, 12, 20). The adverb could mean "suddenly", "without delay", "soon", and "speedily".
My grandson had a similar question. "If God knew that Adam would fall and bring death into the world, why did He create us?"
My answer was "Love." God wanted someone to love and be loved by. Why did you have children? Even though God knew of all the bad that would happen by creating man, He concentrated on the good; the love He would give and the love He would receive in return.
He gave man the ability to choose because you cannot have love without choice. Without choice you have robots. So in God's great wisdom He saw man failing and prepared a way for him to be redeemed. All for the purpose of love.
Joh 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
God bless
As I'd just like to reply to your post and just to bring peace. Like I stated how I agree with Jesse on his view I also agree with you on this. As you give solid reasons in you posts. How even angels have been known to have sinned and turn from God.
Me giving the answer of "yes and no" to this question of OSAS I'm sure would not hold up well to most. Though as I stated that God knows who shall endure until the end as in Matthew 24:13 being they that shall be saved. The Lord knowing His sheep. Though we as men should not take this situation lightly at all. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. As we have been bought with a price and we are His children 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. To live by His Will not our own and to follow our Lord Jesus Christ with zeal.
Taking this in the way of the parable of the sower in Matthew 13:18-23, seems to be accurate. In that those who fall away may have not even been truly saved in the first place. Though only God can really answer that truthfully.
We must strive to not lose our savor as our Lord told us. To run the race till the end keeping the faith.
Again I also side with you in that this is no small matter to take lightly as some may today. Just reading through the first three chapters of Revelation and seeing how Jesus Christ spake unto the churches. Having good things to say and bad things to get them to repent of and focus on Him. Sometimes I say to some people "Would you want the Lord to be happy with you or disappointed in you"?
We have been Blessed with free will. This is what makes people who endure till the end even more special. With a pure heart. To one day be glorified and be with our Lord where He is. Amen.
I very much appreciate your touching replies.
Just as you stated in Matthew 22:14. That those of us who truly accept Jesus Christ as our Salvation and give our lives to Him. I believe have been chosen by God and are very precious to Him. As He is everything to us and knows our hearts. All being important members of the body of Christ. Not that I was trying to boast or anything when I stated that to him. Just what was in my heart. I was surprised when I heard the reply I received about that detail.
Here are a couple other Scriptures of being "chosen". Ephesians 1:4, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 Peter 2:3-5.
God Bless you my sister in Christ.
It appears you're receiving mostly responses that de-emphasize obedience. I do not believe once saved always saved, because of Matthew 12:22-32 and so many other verses. I think if that was true Jesus would not have continually warned his followers (Christians) over and over through parables and stories about obedience and keeping His commandments and avoiding sin. It takes effort. It literally addresses this already in the Bible- saying that people used it as a license to sin and "abuse" grace: Jude 1:4, Hebrews 10:26, James 2:14-26, John 14:15, James 2:19. I fully believe all the verses others shared with you above, but unfortunately it appears most are sharing an imbalanced perspective. The Word speaks for itself and does not say once saved, always saved. Christians can and do turn from the faith, unfortunately, and sometimes a % go in the complete opposite direction and do horrific things, just like any other person can who does evil and follows the world or satan. I'm responding, because I think it's important that you not listen to men, but to the Word and pray and ask God for wisdom that you will know the truth. There are many false prophets and fake news being spread and we know who is behind that. God bless...
Ephesians 2:8-10 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God, Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
But, it's so refreshing to read someone speak God's Word in truth, especially in the times we live in, where it seems so many people are moving away from sound doctrine.
By the way, I wanted to affirm what you said about being chosen. I think you mentioned in a post that someone corrected you and said people are called.
But, I was just reading today where the Word of God says, "Many are called but few chosen." ( Matthew 22:14) So, lots of people are called, but only those who walk away from the world and take a stand for Christ and walk in Him daily, are chosen. Thank God for being a chosen vessel in which the Lord can use and dwell in!
It answers 99% of some of your questions. I know when you are a new believer, it's kinda daunting to find everything in one place. Start reading in the book of John; and then back up and read Matthew, Mark and Luke. Pick up again in the book of Romans. This is where we find most of the answers.
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Below are some verses that cover this topic
Philippines 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure
Ephesians 1:5-6 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved
Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
2 Thessalonians 1:10-12 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
What response do I give my daughter for a direct question, "Why are we here?" "Why did God create us? What is the reason?"
A worried mom
Dana