Discuss Matthew 21

  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    The advent season

    When considering the return of Christ from our perspective we look forward to the conquering King at His second coming (which in reality is at least His third appearance since He ascended from the grave as a sort of part b to His first appearing in the form of the Son of Man; and the Second Coming is split into the Rapture when He appears in the air and when He physically returns at Armaggedon being a sort of "fourth" coming).

    Of course this term doesn't appear in scripture; nor does the Word "trinity". Rapture is what Harpazo means after translation to the term "rapturo" so it isn't in our English texts. In a broader context; Christ appeared in the Old Testament many times (known as a Christophene if it is spelled right). It would seem that the Preincarnate Christ would be there all times; in fact when the Lord communed with man; as no man can see God and live ( Exodus 33:20). The same could be said for Christ in all His glory; John fell at His feet as though dead in his encounter in Revelation ( Rev. 1:17-18).

    It is truly profound to consider how Christ was reduced to the microscopic size of a human fetus; just as much as a virgin birth. Surely in that state the angels were protecting him; being part of the Godhead wasn't part of His earthly ministry ( Philippians 2:7) as He had to live as a substitute for us; but without sin as well as dying as our atonement as the perfect sacrifice. The fact that Christ died for His enemies is remarkable. How He took on our sins is incomprehensible as well; but this was God's plan from before the foundation of the earth.

    May us all remember the verse Matthew 21:44 in regard to falling on Christ. When He returns He will fall on His enemies and crush all the empires of this world as foretold in Daniel 2:45. Let us fall down in worship and adoration today.

    Agape. Rich P
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Zechariah 8

    This chapter is primarily focused on the Millennium promises of blessings and old age for Jerusalem; peace; and a return from diaspora. It demonstrates how all nations will be blessed and desire the God of Israel as well (v. 22-23).

    Verses 2-3 state

    2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; I was jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I was jealous for her with great fury.3 Thus saith the Lord; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the Lord of hosts the holy mountain.

    God is a jealous God as we see in Exodus 34:14. We are reminded from Christ's zealous behavior in the Temple in Matthew 21:13 of the verse in Isaiah 56:7 and that speaks to these passages as well as to Jerusalem being a city of prayer for the whole earth someday. Later chapters in Zechariah discuss Christ fighting for Israel when they finally recognize that Christ is their Messiah; not before.

    Verses 9-10 remind those who built the Temple in that time of the resistance. But verses 11-12 contrast what will happen in the last days. Verses 14-15 state: 14 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; As I thought to punish you, when your fathers provoked me to wrath, saith the Lord of hosts, and I repented not:15 So again have I thought in these days to do well unto Jerusalem and to the house of Judah: fear ye not.

    Verse 19 discusses the subject of fasts and feasts asked about earlier. Apparently these will go on during the Millennium period.
  • S Spencer - 7 months ago
    Have you ever presented the Gospel to a atheist or perhaps a Muslim?

    The first thing they refer you to is the 10 commandments and their argument sounds just like those who present the keeping of the law as a means of salvation.

    So, they should have a clear understanding of what the law was for and what it did "by the scriptures" through a study in Romans, Galatians, and Corinthians.

    Romans 7:8-14.

    Galatians 2:16-21.

    Galatians 3:1-29.

    2 Corinthians 3:5-11. and then perhaps scriptures like Philippians 3:2-14.

    These verses convict the sinner and put all under sin. That's what the law was for!

    Our outward ceremonies and obedience at our best couldn't make us perfect! There is no new birth!

    God requires perfection that is why he required a perfect replacement, Lamb. Christ Jesus.

    SANCTIFICATION FOLLWS THIS.

    Consider Israel.

    God displayed the fallen nature of man and their inability to perform even while God was in their midst and carried them. This was and still is an example to us.

    We are lost hopeless sheep gone astray apart from Jesus's blood shed on the cross.

    Understand Matthew 21:42.

    Jesus is the chief cornerstone, the pivotal piece of the foundation in which we are to build on.

    When we are led by the Spirit we're building with precious stone. When we are led by the flesh, we build with wood hay and stubble. every man's work shall be tested by fire.

    WHEN ISRAEL AS A NATION IS DRIVEN TO CALL ON THEIR MESSIAH THOSE WHO ACCEPT HIM AT THAT TIME WILL BE SAVED ALSO. AND GOD WILL BE SANCTIFIED IN THEM.

    God bless
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Valswords2:

    Romans 8:7 For the CARNAL MIND is ENMITY (in direct rebellion) against God (the WORD) ....

    Most Christians are STILL under the influence of a carnal mind (Satan, deceptions, falsehoods).

    Christ is TRUTH, anything not of TRUTH is ANTI-christ.

    Isaiah 55:8 ....MY thoughts (the mind of Christ) are not your thoughts (the carnal mind, ANTI-christ) ......

    Isaiah 59:7 ..... their thoughts (the carnal mind) are thoughts of iniquity ......

    Luke 15:30 And as soon as this thy son was come, which has devoured thy living with HARLOTS, thou hast killed FOR HIM the fatted calf.

    Matthew 21:31..... HARLOTS go into the kingdom of heaven before you .....

    Hosea 4:14 I WILL NOT punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor you spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves (those with carnal minds) are seperated with whores, and they (the carnal minded) sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people that DOETH NOT UNDERSTAND SHALL FALL.

    The carnal mind WILL NOT understand these scriptures, it takes the mind of Christ to understand God's parables.

    God bless you
  • Chris - In Reply on Ezekiel 19 - 8 months ago
    Thank you Sister Star1964 for your reply & I can understand the difficulty in sometimes understanding the Scriptures & how they all fit together. These were the words given to Israel, often words of warning & impending suffering & judgement, but also words of hope & consolation if they should repent of their wickedness & unfaithfulness and they turn their hearts back to the LORD. When we partition this Book of Ezekiel (as also with other Bible books), we can see the picture more clearly & this will help us understand the times, the people, the judgements, & the promises.

    The chapter you were reading (chap 19), is just a small section of Ezekiel's prophecies against Judah & Jerusalem (actually from chapter 4 to chapter 24), & it is understood that Ezekiel gave these prophetical warnings (in these chapters) prior to the fall of Jerusalem, reminding his fellow captives (even as Ezekiel was one of them) that God's Judgement on the city & Temple was certain.

    When you get to chapters 25 to 32, Ezekiel prophesies against the Gentile nations, that God's Judgement was also coming upon them; but there was still hope for Israel (chapters 33 to 38) & of course this newly revived Israel's role in the coming Millennial Kingdom of their Messiah (chapters 40 to 48). This is just a very brief outline to help you divide the Book & see to whom God is speaking to and of God's Promise that God will "save my flock...will set up one shepherd over them...even my servant David...And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it" ( Ezekiel 34:22-24; referring to their coming Messiah Jesus, son of David (a term that some Jews knew of the Messiah referred to in the Old Testament, Matthew 21:15 & others).

    So, when you write, "...it says that we are looking at it is happening today", I'm unsure what you are supposed to be reading in that chapter or the book that indicates this - maybe the problem lies here in that message.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi David.

    Part 1

    David, I didn't give you my definition of Church. I gave you the Strongs definition of Church.

    ekklsia

    Pronunciation: ek-klay-see'-ah

    Definition: From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out that is (concretely) a popular meeting especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): - assembly church.

    Christ said upon this rock he will build "HIS" Church. It's His calling out or Gathering, It's not by Church membership. It's the Holyspirit the puts the true believers in the body of Christ, "By faith.

    We will have to agree to disagree on the Church issue.

    David, Concerning the rock.

    You said.

    The "rock" is Christ Himself. It is not what I describe.

    Yes, the rock is Christ! Thats exactly what I described!

    David Israel stumbled at that rock, this was not Christ church in the wilderness.

    Isaiah 8:14. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

    Acts 4:10-11. Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

    This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

    Study these verses also.

    Matthew 21:33-43

    1 Peter 2:6-9.

    Romans 9:31-33.

    See Part 2

    Davtid you have said over and over again

    "There is one and only one Judgment and Salvation Program for Mankind throughout time. And that Program, the Gospel, is circumscribed by the Bible Alone and in its Entirety.

    Who's debating that?

    I agree and been saying that exclusively since I have been on this site!

    However, I don't even recall THAT being a part of this conversation!

    At least not from me.
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    23Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.

    24But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,

    25And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

    Further insight. As Ephesians 1:6 states we are to be made acceptable in the beloved. As far as us "accepting" Christ; that is not Biblical as James 2:19 warns about God. Christ is more than Savior; He is Lord and Master; whether we acknowledge it or not there are only two alternatives ( Matthew 21:44). His Sheep hear His voice; the goats do not. ( John 10:27).

    This "committing" of men it would seem would involve the Godhead living within someone and being sealed with the Spirit. It would involve chastising which Hebrews 12:8 in King James brings out pretty strongly in regard to those not in Christ who are "bastards."

    Therefore Jesus had to do constant "weeding" out; and this would involve challenging statements; parables; and other means.

    Jesus in Luke 16:15 warned that what was esteemed or honorable among men was an abomination to God. That is different than what Jesus Himself did when He was praised in Luke 2:52 for His growth in wisdom and stature in terms of how He "gained favor" at that time. That shows His humility in the 30 or so years; taking up the majority of His earthly life being submissive to His parents (unlike the Pharisees who found ways through their religious piety to disrespect parents for the sake of their own material gain).

    Jesus loved His own so much that He made sure that He was the atoning sacrifice on the cross through His own volition; and death could not hold Him. (see John 10:18). It was a miracle in itself that He survived all the attempts on His life (including Gethsemene) through supernatural assistance so that He could make it to the cross to die at the set time and place. No one in scripture is said to be amazed at these acts
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    Considering unbelief based on the facts.

    Think about the evidence Christ presented that He was indeed the Messiah. Indeed; supernatural blindness HAD to be given; for Jesus even told people to believe Him even for the sake of His works ( John 14:11). And the verse was indicative of His being part of the Godhead. There were HUGE numbers of people being miraculously fed at least twice; people healed of blindness which had NEVER occurred even with the Old Testament miracles ( John 10:21); people who had demons cast out of them; as well as the miracles entrusted to the 12 Apostles and the 70 sent out two by two ( Luke 10:11). There was the undeniable proof of natural phenomenon at the crucifixion ( Matt. 27:54); as well as the 500 witnesses that saw Him; including the Apostles AFTER He was Resurrected and they all died except for John as martyrs; clearly they knew and believed the truth since denial would have saved their lives.

    Unbelief therefore is something learned. Children are all born into sin; but scripture makes it clear that they have angels beholding the Father continually and that they were drawn to Christ (see Matt. 18:10). Children came to Christ ( Mark 10:13-16) and praised Him as a fulfillment of Psalm 8:2 and mentioned by the Lord in Matthew 21:16. To deny the obvious requires a hardness of heart and soul; and deliberate rejection of known truths; which of course made the condemnation of the Pharisees greater than most; and was much of the reason Jesus excoriated them in nearly the entirety of Matthew 23. They knew the prophecies but were blinded because of their obsession on the law and all other traditions that were added to put men in bondage and to render mercy and justice meaningless ( Matthew 23:23) with their myopic tunnel vision. The rest of the world if NOT enlightened by the Spirit only looked at Christ as some great miracle worker but didn't worship Him as God in the flesh.

    Hence Matthew 16:17 must occur for true salvation.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Hi Ronald.

    Part 1.

    Thanks for your timeline and I appreciate how you and I can present our view and keep it peacefully and yet have entirely different views.

    I also have the start of Jesus ministry around the same time based off John 4:17-21.

    I don't agree with Jesus being anointed by the Holy Spirit at his baptism.

    Nowhere in Scripture do we find Him being the recipient of the baptism with the Holy Spirit. On the contrary, Jesus is the one who baptizes others with the Holy Spirit. John 1:33.

    Jesus baptism was symbolic of His entrance into His public ministry into the OT priesthood TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    At about thirty years of age, He was ceremonially washed with water and then set apart for that ministry. This set Him apart to do the work for which He had been called to do.

    This is the same way the Old Testament priests began their service. They had to be at least thirty years of age, they were ceremonially washed with water and then they were anointed with oil on their head.

    Messiah means "anointed one". The promised deliverer of the Jewish nation.

    John identified him as the Messiah, but he didn't make him the Messiah.

    Jesus was the Messiah at birth.

    Luke 2:10-11.

    Luke 2:34-38.

    Matthew 1:20-21.

    Ronald you authenicate your view of the begining of the 70th wee started because Andrew told Simon they have found the Messiah, and Philip told Nathanael and the demons knew who he was and so on.

    But many knew who he was at birth and as a child!

    Here is just one example Matthew 2:1.

    The key is when did Jesus present his self as king? Not only that he arranged it.

    Matthew 21:2.

    Any other time they tried to make them king he wouldn't allow it.

    John 6:15.

    Let's revisit Daniel 9.

    See part 2.
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Hell testimonies part 3

    I would be sadly remiss if I didn't emphasize how we should fear the Lord who can send both body and soul to hell ( Matt. 10:28).

    This; in my opinion should elicit a response in the souls of all true believers; as we should be ever greatful for what He did for us on the cross; taking the punishment of God the Father on Himself for our benefit.

    What we can do now; however is be ambassadors for the truth; and allow God to make us vessels of reconciliation ( 2 Cor. 5:19).

    We cannot save anyone; but are held responsible for the death of others if we don't sound the alarm (see Ezekiel 33). Notice there that they may or may not heed the warning.

    One cannot separate the love of God for fear of the Lord; and one cannot appreciate the joys of heaven without realizing the horrors of hell they have been delivered from.

    We also have to understand predestination in that regard; if we disagree on certain aspects it is clear that in the end a certain number are saved and sadly it is only "few" according to Christ Himself. ( Luke 13:23 among other verses).

    Another thing which needs consideration is the reports of children being in hell. Matthew 18:10; as well as Matthew 21:16 tied to Psalm 8:2; and the testimony of David in 2 Samuel 12:23 should dispel this; there are other verses as well which I may elaborate on in a future posting. Those scenes where people seem baffled or confused as to what is happening to them isn't scriptural; and we also must ponder Hebrews 9:27; and understand that judgment comes first immediately after death (although before the Great White Throne one at the end of the Millennium). The punishment is justly given in different levels depending on the crime. I need to be careful here; but will say that punishment will be no more or less than deserved; more "tolerable" for some as in Matthew 11:22.

    In conclusion; God's Word should make us tremble; the subject matter should never be looked at as entertaining.
  • Richard H Priday - 11 months ago
    The bigger picture: Brothers and sisters in Christ and the armies of heaven.

    Revelation 2:27 has a cross reference somewhere but it is hard to find...in Psalms regarding the inheritance of the saints and ruling with an iron rod. Of course Christ Himself will do this as shown in Psalm 2:7-9 and elsewhere.

    There are numerous other verses such as in Ephesians on inheritance and what as sons of light we will have someday ( Eph. 5:8; 1 Thess. 5:5). There is also the reference in the Book of Hebrews to the "cloud of witnesses" ( Heb. 12:1) with specific references in the previous chapter to those who lived lives of faith and are in God's "hall of fame" so to speak. Psalm 8:2 even talks of God's strength in the praise of infants; which was quoted in Matthew 11:25 (also see Matthew 21:15-16 for fulfillment).

    Ephesians 6 gives us instructions to be victors on the battlefield with only one offensive weapon; the sword of the Spirit ( Eph. 6:17). This is something only effective when we have the entire defensive mechanism set up to stop the fiery darts of the evil one in the previous verse.

    We often are quick to point out the persecution; wars; famines and other trials that believers go through which is no doubt an essential concern in prayer. The fact is that there is a battle raging all the time for the souls of men; Christ has won the war and ultimately all He has called and chosen will be saved. This doesn't by any means lessen the conflict but gives us assurance that the Lord will direct those who He wills in our paths to minister to; and pray for. 1 Peter 4:19 discusses prosperity and trials as they come and go in our lives; and Ecclesiastes 7:14 shows God's Providence. I would state that it appears when things are going well it is a more accurate test to determine faithfullness as that is when sin in most likely to take root. In adversity many will fear the Lord; but the faithful will not forget His benefits ( Deuteronomy 8:10-18). Also read Eph. 2:10
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 11 months ago
    The Davidic Covenant.

    The Davidic Covenant centers on several key promises that are made to David. First, God reaffirms the promise of the land that He made in the first two covenants with Israel (the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants). This promise is seen in 2 Samuel 7:10, "I will provide a place for my people Israel and will plant them so that they can have a home of their own and no longer be disturbed. Wicked people will not oppress them anymore." God then promises that David's son will succeed him as king of Israel and that this son (Solomon) would build the temple. This promise is seen in 2 Samuel 7:12-13, " I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for my Name."

    But then the promise continues and expands: "I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever" (verse 13), and "Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever" (verse 16). What began as a promise that David's son Solomon would be blessed and build the temple turns into something different-the promise of an everlasting kingdom. Another Son of David would rule forever and build a lasting House. This is a reference to the Messiah, Jesus Christ, called the Son of David in Matthew 21:9.

    The promise that David's "house," "kingdom," and "throne" will be established forever is significant because it shows that the Messiah will come from the lineage of David and that He will establish a kingdom from which He will reign. The covenant is summarized by the words "house," promising a dynasty in the lineage of David; "kingdom," referring to a people who are governed by a king; "throne," emphasizing the authority of the king's rule; and "forever," emphasizing the eternal and unconditional nature of this promise to David and Israel.

    Davidic Covenant; Jeremiah 23:5; 30:9; Isaiah 9:7; 11:1; Luke 1:32, 69; Acts 13:34; and Revelation 3:7.

    Next.

    See Fulfillments.
  • S Spencer - 11 months ago
    Hi Giannis.

    Part 1

    In part 1 you gave me Luke 1:17 and stated, "This means that another part of John's ministry was to teach Hebrews to clean their heart by preaching them to obey God's commandments. I would have to disagree with you on that.

    No one could keep the law therefore it couldn't make you clean. Acts 15:5-10. Romans 8:3. Galatians 3:10-14.

    You also referred me to Luke 3:7-18. Notice vs 9) "And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire. They couldn't bare fruit! Israel was a degenerate vine.

    Jeremiah 2:20-21. Matthew 21:42-44. In contrast to that Jesus is the genuine vine. John 15:1-2.

    John was preparing the way for someone to do what the Law couldn't do. and that's Christ.

    John's baptism was to turn the Jews "The lost sheep of Israel" to Christ and yet he says there comes one who will give a baptism that exceeds his that brings us to Jesus.

    Now John says he must decrease, and Jesus must Increase. Now we have the beginning of Jesus ministry in which he came for the lost sheep of Israel. Due to blindness, they denied there king so as Paul says salvation has come to the Gentiles. That brings us to Pentecost. Here's a predominantly mostly if not all Jewish beginning of the Church. Here is where baptism of the Holyspirit begins and this is where the Spirit of God baptize Jews and Gentiles into the body of Christ and water baptism is a ritual way for you to display what the Spirit of God has already done once you TRULY believed.

    So, the obedience is for you to show by display who and what you believe in. It's the faith of Christ that initiates your belief which leads to Salvation.

    See part 2.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Alex,

    Part 2

    ...He will give the Kingdom up to the Father that God will be all in all (the only Sovereign of the Kingdom). 1Cor. 15:24

    Jesus will rule with His Father forever over the saints and it will be a kingdom of joy, peace, love, power, grace, and righteousness. (Rom.14:17)

    God will rule over the kingdom as the only Sovereign. He will rule over heaven and the lake of fire ensuring the blessedness of the saints and the eternal punishment of those under His wrath.

    Jesus told Pilate that His Kingdom was not of this world ( John 18:36) It is spiritual and heavenly and also within us.

    It is not a Jewish kingdom because Jesus said that the kingdom would be taken from them and given to another nation. ( Matthew 21:43) (This nation being the saints of God-both Jew and Gentile) Jesus' words were fulfilled in 70 A.D. on the generation that was then present. Matthew 22:7; 23:38; Luke 21:20,24) The Romans surrounded Jerusalem and lay siege to it. They burned the temple and the city to the point of desolation. 1.1 million Jews were killed in this siege. Thousands upon thousands were taken captive and enslaved.

    Even though there is a nation called Israel today does not mean that there will be an earthly kingdom with the Messiah. About 25% of the Jews worldwide emigrated to Israel since it was given nation status in 1948. The national archives of the Jews were destroyed in the 70A.D.. This means all of the records of peoples families and lineages. The other tribes of Israel have been scattered all over the world and intermixed with the Gentiles. There are a small percentage of these tribes in Israel now. So we cannot say that the whole nation ahs been regathered. But even if there comes a national regathering of ALL of Israel, this does not confirm that there will be an earthly kingdom with Jesus reigning. His kingdom is one of righteousness where sin does not enter it. This world is sinful and corrupt...

    This siege ended the time of the Jews and the OT Mosaic system.
  • ItIsWritten - 1 year ago
    That "Stone" is Christ.

    You will find this in Acts 4:10-12 which itself is the confirmation Matthew 21:42 and Psalm 118:22-23 and 1 Peter 2:6-7

    - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The difference in severity can be taken from above.

    If Christ is that Stone (which he is), then even common sense teaches that it is far better to fall on a stone than for a stone to fall on you.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Joseph Mary Fasi, You're in my prayers this morning. With love, in Christ Jesus's name I ask for The Lord to heal whatever's going on in your body/spirit. For whether this ailment be of body or spirit, I do not know. But the Lord knows.

    John 14:13-14

    13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

    14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

    Father, In the name of Jesus Christ I command this condition to halt. I ask You Lord to rebuke it. And I rebuke it in Your name Jesus. Free his/her body from this debilitating illness. Please deliver them from any illness of a spiritual nature as well. I am pleading the blood of Jesus Christ over them .IN JESUS NAME Amen

    Just a simple heartfelt prayer for you. And a few scriptures for you to stand on. Please write them on index cards and hang them where you will see them often. May Gods blessings be upon you today and in the days to come. May His presence overshadow you. Amen.

    1John 5:14

    Matthew 21:22

    Mark 11:23

    I believe God.
  • Sammi - 1 year ago
    A question : do you have faith , in God and in Jesus ? I'm guessing yes , so , why haven't you moved a mountain ? For many years I beat myself up over this , Matthew 17:20 , Matthew 21:21 , Mark 11:23 , John 4:21 . Obviously , I don't have even a tiny mustard grain of faith ! It's only quite recently that I realised that Jesus is using a metaphor . The mountain represents those trials and tribulations that I have in my daily life , my worries my fears my insecurities that come from paying too much attention to the things of this life . Then of course I had to rethink a few other things , once I had realised and accepted that , Jesus sometimes used metaphors , this has opened up my mind to all kinds of possibilities . Further study is required ! Guess what ? Further study is always required ! We are used to metaphors in the Bible especially in the book of Revelation but I hadn't really thought about Jesus using them , parables yes , metaphors ? Took me longer to recognise them . The Bible never stops teaching us new things , this is how it works , it opens up slowly , the more effort you put in and the more your heart and mind are open to it , the more it reveals . It doesn't matter how long we have been reading it , it doesn't matter how many times we've read it , it doesn't matter how great we think our knowledge and understanding is , there's still got good stuff in there to teach us . This is why we need to be careful about how we receive others , they may now something that we don't know yet , we may now something that they don't know yet , we must not discourage open discussion , we must not close our eyes and ears to each other . May God bless us all with open eyes , ears , minds and hearts , to receive His Word from each other with humility and patience and love .
  • T Levis - In Reply on Psalms 90 - 1 year ago
    There are multiple reasons for delay & no from GOD.

    James 4, not GOD's perfect plan, timing = look at Abraham he was promised a son, even past natural ability Genesis 12:4,6,7, Abram 75 yrs old, Genesis 17:1-8, Abraham also called Abram 90 yrs old, Sarah Genesis 18:10,11, Genesis 21:1-3, was the delay for example of faith Hebrews 11, was it for the linage of Salvation timing? Matthew 1:17, ?

    1John 3:22, John 16:23, Psalms 37, Luke 11, Matthew 6, Matthew 7, Matthew 7:7, Matthew 21:22, Luke 18,

    I fasted, prayed, begged, cried out & received what I asked many times & several of those caused me years of deep pain, regret, sadness etc. Trust GOD ALMIGHTY sometimes it's protection, not seeing & knowing everything & everyone attached to the things we ask. Luke 8:10-18,

    Luke 8:15, Revelation 3:10,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Mike Goldbach RN on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    This "stone" that Christ says "those that fall on it will be broken and those it falls on will be ground to." ; what is it and why the difference in severity?
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    Interesting I hadn't thought of it that way. Romans 8:26, 1Corinthians 13:1,9,11,12,13, context 1Corinthians 13, continuing from 1Corinthians 12 & through 1Corinthians 14, all 3 chapters complete the message, he's giving about tongues, in this book

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    Hi William.

    I second Brother Chris on that very well explained answer.

    God bless.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    Alex1939...William this Matthew 21:16 is prophetic of the Manchild the H.G. that has to be born in us...Rev.12:5 she brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations...Thats y the sower wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts that we might birth a baby Christ the Son of Man...The H.G...That Children of Promise...Thats y he cannot speak of him self simply b/c he has to be born in us via the seed of the sower, he is just an infant spiritually speaking...Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( the H.G. ) that Child of Promise That New BIRTH you will in no wise enter there in...We need a new heart and a new spirit a new innerman...Which is the H.G...Our biggest enemy is our carnal minds...And nothin can still this demon without Christ in us...Which is the wheat from his good seed but satans sows a Tare in us ...Then we are in a war with satan...Its gonna be Kingdom against Kingdom...The only way we can win this war is by the babes and sucklings...which are baby Christ, Jesus offspring from his good seed the living word that is gonna be sown in humanity the opening of the BOOK ...The Kingdom does not come till the woman births the manchild the H.G.....Read Rev.12v10

    ......The world is gonna have a Baby....Thats y Jeremiah 30:6 Tells us all men are gonna travail in birth pains...The Child is the H.G. THE Children of PROMISE...I will Multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the Children of PROMISE the H.G... Joel 2:28 I will pour out of my spirit on all flesh...Jeremiah says he saw all men with their hands on their loins as woman in travail with birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6...The Child is the H.G. that heavenly Jacob that is now in a warfare with the Tares...Satans seed...A time of Jacobs troubles...Jacob was the 3 rd person but the H.G. is also the 3 rd person...The wheat Jesus's seed the H.G.

    But these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes.... Matthew 11:25...William this is for spritually minded.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    Hello William. If Matthew 21:16 is taken on its own without using its context, one could use Jesus' Words for the spiritual babe in Christ voicing praise in a simple or unlearned tongue. However, for an exegetical understanding, the meaning & intent of the verse is quite the opposite.

    Jesus was clearly referencing Psalm 8:2: "Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger." In this Psalm of praise, David likens the defeat of his powerful enemies as coming mysteriously from the simple & weak (babes & sucklings). Even with their fewer numbers & feeble shouts when engaging in battle, it is the LORD Who has gained the victory - and no doubt 'stilling' the enemy & avenger (Heb: shabath, to cease, to draw back). This is reminiscent of Jahaziel's great assurance in 2 Chronicles 20:15: "Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's."

    When Jesus uses this Psalm 8:2 to highlight the chief priests & scribes ignorance of the Scriptures & animosity against Him, He asks them, 'aren't your ears open to what these young ones are shouting about, even as you saw the mighty things that were done in the Power of God? Even these little ones have joined the others to shout praises to God's Messiah (the Son of David).' As the shout of victory went out by Israel's 'feeble' army against the enemy, so now the shouts of praise from the 'simple & unlearned' uttered to praise this Jesus, God's Messiah. But this would have been too much for the religious leaders who refused to accept Jesus & to have their 'great' knowledge of the Scriptures questioned.
  • William on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    is it possible for this scripture matthews 21:16 to be in referenced in away to the born-again experience of a new spiritual babe , camparing the tongues ( languages ) that can neighter be understood , from a natural born & a spiritual born ?
  • T Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Baptism: Acts 2:38-47, Matthew 28:18-20, these are the same baptism, Ephesians 4:5, context Ephesians 4:1-13, please read all the scriptures I've included even the scriptures surrounding the ones you're asking about. They're very important on what Jesus our Christ =(the Messiah) is saying & the Scripture is saying about Him.

    Origin of Baptism: Matthew 3, Mark 1, Luke 3, John 1, John 3 - John 4:1,2, ; Matthew 21:25, Mark 11:30, Luke 7, Luke 20:4, Acts 13:24,25,26,

    Acts 1,

    Symbolism of baptism: Matthew 20:22-28, Matthew 11:10,11,12,13, Mark 10, note these scriptures in Mark 10:21,29,30,31,32,33,34,38,39,42,43,44,45, Mark 16:16, Luke 12:49-59, in context Luke 12, John 3:3,5, Romans 6, Colossians 2:12, 1Peter 3:21,

    HOLY Ghost HOLY Spirit Baptism: Acts 8, Acts 10, Acts 11, Acts 19:2-7,

    In one Spirit 1Corinthians 12:13,

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Gerald

    My first reply was wrong that is why I corrected it later.

    In that verse in Matthew the actual meaning of Peter(Petros) is rock(petra), not stone. A more specific anc. grk word for "stone" is "lithos", it is used in Matthew 21:42, "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone(lithos) which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner(cornerstone): this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?". So Jesus describes Himself as stone in this scripture, isn't He?

    I am in agreement with what you say about picking a single verse and make a doctrine out of it. But as I have already said I don't think this is an important topic to spend so much time on it. GBU
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen and Tnank you brother Jesse.

    Often we read or hear the word of God and we say "I'm going to do that". For instance We shall love one another as I have loved you. How are we carrying that out as a whole?

    This is not anything our flesh wants us to do.

    I believe the inerrant word of God CAUSES us to do something our natural man couldn't do.

    This is Agape!

    This is what Jesus asked Peter in John 21:15-17.

    Peter understood. Peter responded "You know I love you Lord".

    Peter didn't use the word Agape, he used phile. Perhaps that's the highest degree of Love the flesh is capable of.

    He knew he wasn't capable.

    Neither was the disciples ready for ministry until the were filled with the Holyspirit.

    We're talking about fruit barring that Israel "being a degenerate vine" couldn't do. " Matthew 21:43.

    You can't command someone to Love the way God loves.

    I believe in Matthew 21:43 that nation mentioned here is the Church Peter mentions in 1 Peter 2:9.

    Here's another reference of where our righteous deeds if counted worthy must come from within the heart. Matthew 23:25-28. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

    Thou blind Pharisee, CLEANSE FIRST THAT WHICH IS WITHIN THE CUP AND PLATTER, THAT THE OUTSIDE OF THEM MAY BE CLEAN ALSO.

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

    Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

    Thanks Brother Jesse.

    God bless you.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Part 5 Cross references and interpretations

    The New Testament lists miracles of Christ which can be close enough to likely be the same event which may have varying details revealed in one version; or a different event based on supporting evidence. That would relate to the turning of the moneychangers tables. It appears in John 2:14 and Matthew 21:12-13. The time frame clearly show that it straddled pretty much the whole ministry of Christ (was several years apart). The case in Mark would likely be right before the crucifixion as the text indicates; although for some reason some seem to think He did this 3 times.

    Another time frame issue comes from the verses on the signs given to the early church on healing and tongues that apparently were widespread events at that time. No one can doubt that the scriptures prophesied such things as for instance Isaiah 53 makes clear. The controversy is what is applicable today. It is important to understand that since no one since the time of the Resurrection has escaped physical death than there is a specific application to the dispensation (or time frame) that we are in prophetically. What we can claim as promises need to be looked at with the light of scripture; for even with the case of Paul; Satan gave him a thorn in the flesh and Phillippians 2:27 where Ephaphroditus nearly died and was "sick to death". We can certainly apply a total healing to eventually involve the mind; body and soul or spirit of an individual and also say that He can expidite certain miraculous events when He chooses. We can look to verses on material blessings as well and legitimately claim certain promises; but of course as James warns us if we do it to consume upon our own lusts or are doubleminded we shouldn't expect results.

    Finally; it is important to make sure we are correctly interpreting a a verse as well as connecting it with an appropriate cross reference; and good teaching stills help along with growing in wisdom/truth.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    Dear Imam Muhammad. We might not understand your meaning of 'oracle'. What we understand of the word is found in several portions of the Old Testament, and this refers to the Holy of Holies that was the inner sanctuary of the Tabernacle (or, Temple when King Solomon/Suleiman) built it (e.g. see it mentioned in 1 Kings 8:1-9).

    This place, the Oracle, that only the High Priest could enter contained the Ark of the Covenant. We know that this Temple was destroyed by the Romans in AD70, but what happened to the Ark of the Covenant, no one can be sure. So, in the biblical meaning, the Oracle is the Holy of Holies & that no longer exists.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 1 year ago
    Matthew 21, is translated from the Greek in this translation. The Strongs Exhaustive Concordance on this site connection has only the Greek into English, that I personally could find. In Touch Ministry Dr. Charles Stanley, is working on many translations. I researched online also, there seems to be translations.


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