Discuss Matthew 2

  • Melissa418 on Matthew 2 - 1 month ago
    God speaks to us vividly through dreams. I have experienced it. I love this.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    After Christ was born...

    Today is according to tradition the day after Christ's birth (despite evidence His birth wasn't in the winter). At some point shortly after His birth; the angel gave the warning to Joseph to flee as Herod began his slaughter of all male children 2 and under. Later after Herod was dead then Joseph was told to go back and eventually settled back in Nazereth to fulfill another prophecy (read Matthew 2:13-23).

    We then see nothing except the general statement that Jesus grew in wisdom and stature until his brief account of speaking at 12 years old at Passover in the account of Luke 2. It would appear that indeed only a few (including Herod) were aware of this miraculous birth at first glance since there weren't people coming in droves to find him. Since Herod persecuted and killed so many children it probably would be knowledge to some as to WHY he did this; although he may have said something about a usurper being born to compete for him on the throne rather than saying he was trying to kill who they considered their Messiah.

    In any event clearly Mary and Joseph were able to blend in so that Jesus was not that recognizable even into adolescence.

    We may not understand why Christ had to remain more or less hidden until the sudden public appearance beginning His ministry after the 40 days of temptation in the wilderness at age 30. Surely the example of service to his family and living a perfect and righteous life is demonstrated. I would surmise that He was "prayed up" knowing the frenetic pace and intensity of what was coming for that 3 1/2 year ministry well ahead of time and had great lengths of time to pray alone. We can surmise that He spent that time preparing His family financially to have enough to survive once He had to leave for the ministry the Lord gave Him. John the Baptist apparently wasn't even aware until the Spirit came down as to WHO the Son of God was ( Luke 3:22).

    Christ never flaunted His glory on Himself.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    Matthew 2:18

    The statement of weeping in Ramah is echoed here from the passage in the Old Testament in Jeremiah. This signifies another one of Satan's attempts to wipe out the godly seed; reflecting the age old battle started in Genesis 3:15.

    When we see the story of Christ from His birth to His death Satan was given license to come within inches of his goal; in the former situation killing every male child through Herod's persecution except for that of Joseph and Mary which was thwarted by supernatural intervention ( Matt. 2:13-23) after the Magi were warned previously to return to their homeland by a different route whence they came. No doubt at His death Satan thought he was granted total success in killing the Son of God at the cross but Judas Iscariot at least realized that he had been part of killing a just man; sadly it was worldly sorrow rather than godly sorrow leading to repentance in this case. Satan and the demons; unlike man KNOW who Christ is; as James states the demons believe and tremble ( James 2:19). The forces of evil should have known that a member of the Godhead is indeed invincible; even over death; certainly Satan's defeat echoing the prophecy in Genesis about his head being destroyed was at least partially fulfilled; I would argue in Revelation comes another fulfillment; with the deadly wound healed of Antichrist Satan's agent; then the destruction of Antichrist and later Satan Himself in Revelation 19 through 22.

    Time after time in the history of the Word we see nearly complete attempts to wipe out man; Satan corrupted men (I would argue through the Nephilim and their offspring) so that only Noah and his small family were saved out of it; the attempt to destroy God's lineage was also repeated with the attempted massacre of all the Jews in Esther's time; the Holocaust; and throughout history until today. During the Tribulation again he will fall short (see Zechariah 13:8 for example).

    May we rejoice that His victory is assured.
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Thank you for your good question Kr00031. I have tried to do a little research on this by examining other verses with this 'anomaly'. And though I can't be sure about it in every case, my guess is that in the KJBible, quotation marks are not used to indicate someone's speech or a quotation from a source.

    So, in today's English usage, if I were to write, Jesus said, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone...." ( Matthew 4:4), I would use quotation marks front & rear of the sentence to indicate Jesus' Words. But in the writing of the KJB, quotation apparently weren't employed but capitalizing the first letter after the speech or quotation, indicated the start of it.

    You can look at the following examples to see how this works: Matthew 2:8 (Go); Matthew 2:23 (He); Matthew 3:3 (The); Matthew 3:15 (Suffer). I think you will get the idea of how the first letter of the first word is capitalized when a message is uttered or a verse is quoted.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Right and wrong: Further considerations.

    We can see a principle involved when it comes to life and death. At the time of Moses; the Pharaoh commanded that the Jewish babies be killed ( Exodus 1:15-22). This involved the boys only; the midwives ignored this; thus Moses himself was preserved ironically his own mother was paid to nurse him until he was raised by Pharoah's daughter ( Exodus 2:8-10). Strange happenings indeed. Later we see the same thing happen under Herod in Matthew 2:16-18. The Lord warned Joseph and he was out of the area at this time. In these situations we can certainly see that taking a life is against God's law and therefore we must not follow man's law of such destruction. Satan is clearly attempting to destroy as many as he can created in God's image.

    Abraham screwed up twice in regard to lying about his wife during famine and in another difficult situation because he feared for his life. God worked that out supernaturally to show the importance of the marriage covenant and the fact that Abraham was a Prophet. ( Genesis 12:11; Genesis 20:2). Amazingly in Genesis 26:7 Isaac did the same thing with Rebekka. You would thing the lesson would have been learned but clearly certain sins run in the family. What we don't know in these situations is whether those who housed these men's wives at the time would have tried to kill these men if they didn't say anything; since God Himself spoke to them probably not; or they wouldn't have succeeded. The last case involved a Philistine king; again pagans had their conscience pricked (in this case Isaac's behavior made it clear he was her husband). We should consider in all this the sanctity of marriage.

    We see Biblical characters such as Jacob messing around with what would have been Esau's blessing. ( Genesis 27-29). Esau wanted his brother murdured ( Gen. 27:41). Heb. 12:16 shows Esau also was a fornicator; and previously had sold his birthright for food ( Gen. 25:29-34). So God allowed it
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    John 2:23-25

    23Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.

    24But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,

    25And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

    Just as the Son of God warned us that many would claim mighty miracles in His Name ( Matt. 7:22); not knowing Christ as a member of the Godhead kept unregenerate individuals who saw Christ Himself performing them when they ascribed it to someone who was merely a great teacher; or Prophet of God. What the Prophets couldn't do was forgive sins; which is always man's greatest need as we see from John 5:14 where a man for decades was healed from being a paralytic. In this case sin had something to do with his condition but eternal death would probably be the only thing WORSE that Christ was referring to.

    Preaching about sin to enemies of God can and will cause strife and persecution. But the whole Gospel must make it clear that our spiritual condition is dead; and judgment inevitable until we are saved; and that only comes through Christ's atonement removing out sins. The Pharisees themselves were looking for signs; even at the cross He was mocked and challenged to save Himself as though He was under the control of those who crucified Him. The concept of setting someone free was overshadowed by the Pharisees tenacious grasp on the law and their many additions of "working on the Sabbath Day" ( Luke 13:16). The crowds wanted free bread and fish; or to be caught up in the acction of the moment; with only a few truly being disciples; worshipping Him; and giving up all for following Him. Matthew 2:7 shows how Herod pretended to want to worship the Christ child; such is the same sort of concept of those who tried to trap Him with questions later on ( Luke 11:53-54). Others only wanted Him to rule as King; which will happen in the Millennium ( John 6:15).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Hi Ronald.

    Part 1.

    Thanks for your timeline and I appreciate how you and I can present our view and keep it peacefully and yet have entirely different views.

    I also have the start of Jesus ministry around the same time based off John 4:17-21.

    I don't agree with Jesus being anointed by the Holy Spirit at his baptism.

    Nowhere in Scripture do we find Him being the recipient of the baptism with the Holy Spirit. On the contrary, Jesus is the one who baptizes others with the Holy Spirit. John 1:33.

    Jesus baptism was symbolic of His entrance into His public ministry into the OT priesthood TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    At about thirty years of age, He was ceremonially washed with water and then set apart for that ministry. This set Him apart to do the work for which He had been called to do.

    This is the same way the Old Testament priests began their service. They had to be at least thirty years of age, they were ceremonially washed with water and then they were anointed with oil on their head.

    Messiah means "anointed one". The promised deliverer of the Jewish nation.

    John identified him as the Messiah, but he didn't make him the Messiah.

    Jesus was the Messiah at birth.

    Luke 2:10-11.

    Luke 2:34-38.

    Matthew 1:20-21.

    Ronald you authenicate your view of the begining of the 70th wee started because Andrew told Simon they have found the Messiah, and Philip told Nathanael and the demons knew who he was and so on.

    But many knew who he was at birth and as a child!

    Here is just one example Matthew 2:1.

    The key is when did Jesus present his self as king? Not only that he arranged it.

    Matthew 21:2.

    Any other time they tried to make them king he wouldn't allow it.

    John 6:15.

    Let's revisit Daniel 9.

    See part 2.
  • TammyC - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Mel8, thank you so much for your kind words, that has blessed my heart. God Bless!
  • Mel8 - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    TammyC this is awesome ! You are very privileged ! The Bible is alive and you have finally noticed ! The Word of God is really opening up to you ! This is how you know that you are actually being taught by it , the Bible itself ! Keep your eyes and ears and heart and mind open and every single time you read it it will show you something new . It doesn't matter how many times or for how long you have been reading it , once you realise that you are noticing things for the first time even though you have already read it several times before , then you know , the Word is really sinking into you and revealing itself , I'm so happy for you . The Bible is fresh and new and opening up to you , I pray to God that it will continue to do so for you , through Jesus Christ our Saviour may it be so . This is what should happen to all of us every time we read it .
  • TammyC on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Matthew 2:11....I have never noticed it says "house", and not stable or manger. I've read Matthew many many times...I have never noticed this.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Skiman,

    They could be basing their claim on any one of the following pieces of scripture:

    John 1:1, John 1:14, John 8:24, John 8:58, John 10:30-33, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 2:9, Philippians 2:5-8, Psalm 45:6.

    The Bible tells us that we are to worship God alone, and yet Jesus received worship and never rebuked anyone who worshipped Him. We see evidence of this in Matthew 2:2, Matthew 2:11, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, John 9:35-38, Hebrews 1:6.

    Isaiah 44:6 reads, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me."

    In Rev 1:17, it says "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as a dead man." In Daniel 10:8-9, Daniel did the same thing. When he saw this vision of Christ, he fell down as he was dead. In Ezekiel 1:28, Ezekiel sees the vision and he falls down as a dead man. It goes on to say "Fear not; I am the first and the last: (the designation of God, found in Isaiah 41:4, and Isaiah 48:12).

    In Revelation 1:18, it says I am He that lives, and this is another designation of God found in Psalm 84:2, and Joshua 3:10.

    I am He that lives. God presents Himself to the Jews as the living God. He says I am He that lives, and was dead; literally, and became dead, and behold, I am living forevermore, His resurrection, His eternalness.

    And then it reads, Amen; and I have the keys of hell and of death. Keys are a symbol of authority. Those who were in charge of the temple had the keys to the temple. We are told later on that the Lord (Jesus) will be in control of hell and death.

    In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks His disciples who do you say I am? Peter had the perfect answer. Peter said "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."

    Peter was Jewish. The phrase "Son of the living God" from a Hebrew standpoint is a phrase used for God. To a Jew, claiming to be the Son of God was considered blasphemy, but that was Peter's response to who Jesus was
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    These translations seem to come from Hebrew & Greek, please see Genesis 6:1,

    John 3:16, if you tap scripture it will take you to separate page that has word translation towards bottom of page, the New Testament from Greek & Old from Hebrew.

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Francisco Tejeda on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    How come you are not using quotes for Iesus, due to it being in Latin?
  • T Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello,

    1st pray for wisdom James 1:5-7,

    2nd in your spirit you already had a leading to what the beast was

    3rd To clarify GOD does still speak through dreams, visions, prophecy : Matthew 2:13, Acts 2:17, Malachi 3:6,

    4th The Holy Spirit will teach you: 1John 2:27,

    5th The Sword of the Spirit = The WORD of GOD, (as you declared in your dream) Ephesians 6:17, Hebrews 4:12,

    6th if You're struggling with addiction & fear of it returning; continue to turn to GOD 'deny the flesh' : Matthew 17:20-21, Romans 8, Psalms 139,

    Hopefully these are all helpful & I've prayed for you also as you've asked
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 45 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 45.

    This Psalm discusses in the first five verses a description of a mighty warrior of valor; with characteristics of "truth; meekness and righteousness" in verse 3. The description in verse 2; however about being fairer than the children of men would certainly seem to portray the future Messiah; or at least an angelic being.

    Verse 6 clearly describes God. Verse 7 discusses God Himself anointing someone; which likely represents only the Messiah Himself. There were special formulas for priests to administer to kings in the O.T. as specified in Leviticus 8:30; as well as Exodus 29 and 30.

    Verse 8 discusses Myrrh which was one of the spices brought to Christ ( Matthew 2:11).

    The remainder of the Psalm except for the last verse could describe the nuptuals and marriage bonds such as found in the Song of Solomon. We are also reminded of the story of Ruth who left her own people and was blessed for joining Naomi and the Jews; and eventually was part of he royal lineage from the sentiments in verse 10.

    Verse 16 could describe spiritual offspring; and relate to us as in Revelation 5:10 being "kings and priests on the earth". The last verse also seems to indicate Christ being "remembered in all generations." The whole Psalm is likely a depiction of David as seen by those writing it for the sons of Korah for worship.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 45 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 45

    This Psalm contains virtues of a human king; but also some of God's attributes alone. Most verses can have either meaning. In the first five verses we see characteristics of a valiant warrior with "truth, meekness and righteousness" adding to the exalted status. Verse 2 however stating that the appearance was "fairer than the children of men" would seem to indicate a description of God; or at least that of an angelic being.

    Verse 6 directly describes God; and verse 7 seems to indicate a Messianic anointing. Priests in Exodus 29:7 and Exodus 8:30 were anointed and the further application was to be for the Messiah. Myrrh in verse 8 is mentioned in Matthew 2:11.

    The rest of the Psalm (verses 9 to the end) talk about attributes much as is in the Song of Solomon for the king and could also be related to a love story. Such abandon of our lives and forgetting our own people and past could also relate to someone like Ruth who decided to follow Naomi and therefore became part of the royal lineage. The children in verse 16 could also in some sense be the spiritual descendants of Christ. The Psalm ends with "thy name being remembered in all generations" which is certainly a description of Christ but also could relate to King David co ruling with Christ. We also shall be "kings and priests" on the earth some day ruling and reigning with Christ ( Rev. 5:10).
  • Adam - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Why not both? Do you believe?
  • Dalton on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    do you believe in God?,or do you believe GOD ?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Romans 5,

    Here are scriptures for experience: Genesis 30:27, Ecclesiastes 1:16,

    Teacher/ teach; Psalms 25:4,5,9,12, Psalms 32:8, Psalms 94:12, Proverbs 9, 1John 2:27, John 14:26, Proverbs 22:6,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Queen E Cunningham Rose on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Where in the KJV Bible the passage or quote: "...Experience is the best teaching...? or passage closes to this effect? Thank U.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 20 - 1 year ago
    Hi Suze, John 1:1 tells us that Jesus is God and other verses say He created all things.

    Verses of Jesus accepting worship:

    John 20:28

    Matthew 28:8-9

    Mark 16:1

    Matthew 2:11

    Matthew 21:9

    John 12:13

    We are also to obey Jesus:

    John 8:31

    John 14:15

    John 14:21-24

    John 15:10-14

    1 John 2:3
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jew = tribe of Judah

    Please note: Genesis 29:31-35, Genesis 35:23,

    Genesis 44:18-34, Judah offers to be taken prisoner & suffer for his brother's accused crimes, because of the love he had for his father. Note: John 10:14-42, John 14, John 17, John 3:10-21,

    Note: Exodus 12:35-38, Exodus 12:48, Esther 8:17,

    Genesis 49:1,2,8,9,10,11,12, Genesis 46:12, Luke 3:23-38, Hebrews 7, Hebrews 8:7-13, - Hebrews 9, Matthew 2:1,5,6, Revelation 5:5,

    Notice Genesis 49:10,11,12 = Matthew 21:1-16, Mark 11:1-10, Luke 19:30-46, John 12:11-16, Matthew 26:17-56, Mark 14:1-72, Luke 22:1-20,37,

    Zechariah 13:6, Psalms 22:1,7,8,14,15,16,17,18,30,31, Matthew 27:35,37,41,43,46,51,52,53, Mark 15:3,6,15,20,24,27,28,29,31,32,34,38,

    John 19:11,14,16,18,19,20,23,24,28,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,

    Isaiah 53

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Rachel, Genesis 29,

    Jacob whose name was changed by GOD to Israel,
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Please see: Matthew 2:16,

    Bethlehem,

    Matthew 2:1-18,

    Genesis 35:19,20, * Genesis 48:7,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Matthew 6:14,15, Mark 11:25,26, Luke 11:2-13,

    However wisdom may teach us not to stay around it. Matthew 10:23, Matthew 2:13-16,

    James 1:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Victor - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    let me change the question:

    why is it Rachel? who is Rachel?
  • Suze - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Rachel was one of Jacobs wives , you can read about them in the book of Genesis .
  • Victor on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Matthew Chapter 2:18 "Rachel weeping for her children..."

    who is Rachel? why is her?
  • Pagan nun maji on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    of scribes & teachers

    The last prophet was the first

    Within the phases of her moon shine

    Each shadow is a memory of a healer we once recognised as self

    Reflection deflect responsibility of an illusion we may change the future

    At selfish whim or idle song of regrets

    bodies counted as dead are forever lost futures of GOD'S true mind

    And unconditional love unattended

    Amen
  • Streetpreacher - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Have you tried using the search box? Put your scripture in it. When it comes up, touch the screen till it highlights yellow. Scroll down slow till you see the commentary box. Open it. It'll have John Wesley and peoples Bible commentaries.

    You can do the same thing on Google.

    Scripture, Bible Commentaries, enter

    Choose a link with Bible in the name

    BibleHub, Bible Ref, there's more

    Good reading every time.


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