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Matthew 19 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • D W L - in Reply
    Marke

    1 Corinthians 7:11 (But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband): and let not the husband put away his wife.

    1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak (I, not the Lord): If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

    1 Corinthians 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace

    Matthew 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

    So Glad for the Word it brings such joy and peace.

    A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases - (means you can't force them to stay with you) but God hath called us to peace. The Word does not dispute itself.
  • Doug - in Reply
    The Bible speaks to to salvation from sins and atonement for sins which is of grace for we had a debt we could not pay. When the Bible talks of eternal salvation it speaks of works. Some of the verses...... Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Luke 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. (if he was alive was he saved?) John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. (if we don't abide in his love are we saved?) Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 19:16,17 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (if we haven't enter into life, are we saved?) James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? (Read this chapter carefully. We want it to say that works are a result of salvation. I understand it to say that faith without works is dead for salvation). Rahab did nothing to have the opportunity to be saved (of grace), but she had to respond properly (stay in the house) to be saved. It might be beneficial to differentiate between the works of the law (which no flesh shall be justified) and the works and teachings of Jesus. The lawgiver proceeded out of Juda, not Levi. Genesis 49:10
  • Christian Marriage and Divorce - in Reply
    1 Corinthians 7

    (Is a good chapter to understand the Lord's views on marriage and divorce.)

    Comment: Christian marriages are not the same as marriages between unbelievers. (the world system). That's why we enter into a covenant of marriage soberly.

    In Jewish culture the couple are betrothed for one year before the marriage. It's time to get to know one another. The bride-to-be would cook dinners for her betrothed and the family.

    Commentaries:

    Wesley's Notes for Matthew 5:31

    Let him give her a writing of divorce - Which the scribes and Pharisees allowed men to do on any trifling occasion. # Deut 24:1; Matt 19:7; Mark 10:2; Luke 16:18.

    People's Bible Notes for Matthew

    Mt 5:31,32 Whosoever shall put away his wife. The divorce laws were very lax among the Jews. A man could put away his wife "for any cause" ( Matthew 19:8). Moses directed a legal letter of divorcement ( Deuteronomy 24:1).

    Christ positively forbids divorce except for unchastity. Marriage is a divine institution, and the obligation is for life.

    Mt 19:3-9

    Romans 7:1-3;

    1 Corinthians 7:10-17
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hi Randy. There's only one occasion that I can recall in the Bible of divorce being sanctioned & had taken place, but I may be wrong in this; there may be more than one. You didn't give a full reference to your Scripture quote, so can I assume Matthew 19:7-9? You then may be enquiring for an example of someone in the Bible who fits that situation of divorce & re-marriage. A 'general' event of divorce, is given in Ezra chapter 10.

    The account leading up to it, is when the Jews return from their Babylonian captivity under Zerubbabel & the Temple foundation is laid. When Ezra later returns to Jerusalem, he wants to bring about a spiritual revival from the returnees (you can read about it in Ezra chapter 9). Then in chapter 10, as a part of their repentance before God, Shechaniah confessed that many of the people had taken 'strange wives' from the land they were exiled in. As you read chapter 10, you will see from verse 10 that Ezra brings them to confession about their wrong marriages & were called to "put away their wives..and offer a ram (as a sacrifice) for their trespass" ( Ezra 10:19). And then from verse 20 to 44 a very long list of (guilty) men is given, those who must put away (divorce) their strange (Gentile) wives. This is the only occasion that I can recall that shows divorces had to be carried out.
  • Orion Hughes on Mark 9
    I recall much horror at Jesus saying to cut off ones hand or ones eye,

    and surely I could think of at least one other body part was worried about.

    Others in my church might not be worried about their hands, because their hand is not causing

    them to sin, but mine is.

    First of all, I want to honor the Christian forum by first defending Jesus.

    I believe Jesus has a sense of humor, I conclude based on what I have read,

    that Jesus is merely teasing people who have asked him how they can stop sinning.

    I understand there is also some very deep symbolism in all of this, as evidenced, by

    Jesus talking about "offending" one of "these little ones". So, it is more than just a joke,

    but it is humor in my opinion, I cant prove it, but I just dont see Jesus saying seriously to anyone

    that they should literally remove parts of their body.

    There is some question of what is meant by "offend". Other translations have said "if your hand causes you to sin",

    rather than "if your hand offends you". There is surely some implication of hands, eyes, and potentially other

    body parts, causing one to lust. If "offend" means something other than "causes you to sin", then in that case,

    is that not exactly what the trans-gendered are doing - removing parts of their body which "offend" them?

    In Matthew 19:12, Jesus seems to partially endorse the practice of becoming a eunuch.

    All this is very scary to the young teenaged Christian such as I was at one time.

    I recall also that it is not easy for Christian leaders to soothe such fear by dismissing it,

    because, Jesus is saying this.

    The joke I talked about is a great joke, it is very deep spiritually, I think we should reflect on this,

    Jesus is really telling us not to hurt ourself, not to be hard on ourself. "Rabbi, how do I stop [shameful practice]".

    "Cut your hand off".

    Its so perfect. Its funny, it disarms the questioner of their fear, its deep, its totally flawless.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on James 2
    Here are a few scriptures that really rattled me: Psalms 10:10, in context: Psalms 10, whole chapter.

    * Leviticus 19:15, Amos 2:6-7, Amos 5:12, Amos 8:4, Habakkuk 3:14,

    Scriptures about the poor: Exodus 22:25, Exodus 23:1-11, Leviticus 19:10, Leviticus 23:22, Deuteronomy 24:14,15,

    Job 29:11-17, Job 30:25, Job 31:13-40, Job 34:19-28,

    Leviticus 25:25-55, Deuteronomy 15:1-15,

    1Samuel 2:7-8, Job 24, Matthew 19:21,

    Psalms 9:18, Psalms 12:5, Psalms 14:6,

    Galatians 2:10, Zechariah 7:10, Luke 14:12-14, may want to keep reading Luke 14,

    Matthew 5:3, Luke 6:20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Kurt,

    Here is a scripture I just found for you : Psalms 25:16-18

    I believe you can forgive now. Matthew 6:14, Mark 11:25,

    In the last few years GOD has placed forgiveness on my thoughts for people, some had already passed. Some wrongs I had forgotten but as I remembered, GOD would remind me to forgive.

    There are moments we have deep regrets, especially when a loved one is passed on. I have prayed similarly as you & felt peace because nothing is impossible with GOD, Luke 1:37, Mark 10:27, Luke 18:27, Matthew 19:26,
  • Marke - in Reply on Romans 8
    Reply to Doug

    I believe foolish virgins with no oil in their lamps, professing Christians with no fruit of the Holy Spirit and no works to evidence genuine faith, and foolish hearers who build their houses on the sand are all pictures of sinners who never get saved because God saw they valued other things more than God, like the eager young man in Matthew 19 who valued his money more than salvation.
  • ELB
    MATTHEW 19:28

    Matthew 19:28 ....in the regeneration when the son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory ......

    What does this mean:

    The regeneration is when you are BORN AGAIN OF SPIRIT (TRUTH).

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you .... the Holy Ghost in you ......

    The Body is a vessel that ONLY HOLDS; the Holy Ghost, the LIFE of the vessel (our body).

    .....When the son of man (the Holy Ghost) shall sit in his THRONE OF GLORY.

    Our Body is the THRONE OF (his) GLORY, when we agree with THE WORD, that the LIFE that we now live is the LIFE OF THE HOLY GHOST, that we are ONLY the vessel that hold THE LIFE ( Philippians 2:13).

    As Christ, in the form, of the Holy Ghost is IN US, judging us, and bring us to truth.

    We will be the likeness of Christ, in the form of a ministering spirit (the Holy Ghost), judging the world (the twelve tribes of the Israel of God), bring them to truth (grafting them into the root; THE LIFE).

    Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY and ONE SPIRIT.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 .....and GOD SHALL BE ALL IN ALL.

    God Bless You!
  • ELB
    ISRAEL

    The Jews in the land of Israel today cannot prove which tribe they are from. There is no priest of the tribe of Levi.

    The Old Testament Israel, that died in UNBELIEF, are dead and in their graves.

    They CANNOT be grafted into the kingdom of God until the SECOND RESURRECTION.

    Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye shall also sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of ISRAEL.

    This cannot happen until the SECOND RESURRECTION.

    Hebrews 4:2 For unto us the GOSPEL was preached, as well as unto them: but THE WORD preached did not prophet them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

    God Bless God!
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Giannis.

    Again thanks for your reply.

    We're in agreement with the blessings of Abraham to all people by faith.

    But we are in disagreement that the keeping of the law binds those promises. Galatians 3:17 says otherwise.

    You mentioned Matthew 19:28.

    Now quoting you concerning judas.

    Your quote:

    "Remember that Jesus said to all 12 apostoles, including Judas, that they will sit on thrones to judge the 12 tribes of Israel. Did that come true for Judas? No, because Judas at the end walked another way. What is then happened to that promise given to Israel? It was gone as soon as they crucified Jesus and took some other way. God's promises are never unconditional,"

    End quote.

    Judas didn't catch Jesus by surprise and he was prophesied to betray Jesus in the old testament. And early on in John 6:70.

    Take a look at the verse you referred to.

    "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have FOLLOWED ME, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

    Several things here.

    Jesus sitting on his throne doesn't depend on his disciples following him. If so it wouldn't be still expected after Christ was crucified, as seen here in Acts 15:14-17. and elsewhere in scripture after the crucifixion.

    Jesus says That ye which have FOLLOWED ME. A desciple is one that follows one's teachings . Does that sound like Jesus?

    When were they sent out with the power and influence of the Holyspirit? After Jesus resurrection and after the death of Judas. Paul was born out of due season. There's your twelve.

    Concerning 1949. yes they're in the land but is Christ sitting on David's throne?

    They won't behold him as a nation until they say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord. And is the lion laying down with the Lamb? Is the devil chained a thousand years? None of the Millennium prophecies have been fulfilled. See Isaiah 65:19.

    God bless.
  • JESUS'S TEACHING ON DIVORCE - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 7
    Matthew 19 (See Matt 5 also)

    3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for Every cause?

    4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, ( Genesis 2:23-24) that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

    5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

    8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the BEGINNING it was not so.

    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    [Wesley's Notes for Deuteronomy 24:1 Mosaic Law for Divorce]

    Some uncleanness - Some hateful thing, some distemper of body or quality of mind not observed before marriage: or some light carriage, as this phrase commonly signifies, but not amounting to adultery. Let him write - This is not a command as some of the Jews understood it, nor an allowance and approbation, but merely a permission of that practice for prevention of greater mischiefs, and this only until the time of reformation, till the coming of the Messiah when things were to return to their first institution and purest condition.

    As a Christian you are called to be at peace with everyone. Talk to your Pastor & give details. If not him, get a Christian Counselor. You'll feel better what you decide to do. Come back here for emotional support.

    My advice: live single for a year; no dating. Build friendships within the Church now. Separation may be

    Preferable during this process.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on John 3
    Additional scripture for you:

    Matthew 3-7, Matthew 5, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 9:10-13, Matthew 9:14-17, Matthew 9:27-34, Matthew 12:14, Matthew 12, Matthew 15, Matthew 16, Matthew 16:6,12, Matthew 19:3, * Matthew 21, Matthew 22, Matthew 22:15, it appears they were wrongfully referring to the book of Tobet, in 1611 version, Tobit 3:7,8, Matthew 22:29,

    * Matthew 23:2, whole chapter Matthew 23, Matthew 27:62,

    Matthew 23:13,14,

    Mark 2:16, Mark 2, Mark 3:1-6, Mark 7:1-23, Mark 8:11,15, Mark 10:2, Mark 12:13,

    Luke 5:17-39, Luke 6:2-11, Luke 7:29-50, Luke 11:37-54, Luke 12:1, Luke 12:31, Luke 14:1-24, Luke 14, Luke 16:14-31, Luke 16, Luke 19:35-39,

    John 1:19-34, John 3:1-21, John 7:28-32, John 7:43-53, John 8:3-22, John 9, John 9:15,16, John 11:37-57, John 12:19, John 12:42, John 18:3,

    Acts 15, Acts 23,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study, I included several Chapters to read next to verses, to read within context, for better understanding
  • Replying - in Reply on Mark 16:15
    Luke 22.30

    that ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Matthew 19.28 ( says it again )
  • Michael Woelfel - in Reply
    the word "salvation" concerns an eternal, spiritual deliverance. When Paul told the Philippian jailer what he must do to be saved, he was referring to the jailer's eternal destiny ( Acts 16:30-31). Jesus equated being saved with entering the kingdom of God ( Matthew 19:24-25).

    What are we saved from? In the Christian doctrine of salvation, we are saved from "wrath," that is, from God's judgment of sin ( Romans 5:9; 1 Thessalonians 5:9). Our sin has separated us from God, and the consequence of sin is death ( Romans 6:23). Biblical salvation refers to our deliverance from the consequence of sin and therefore involves the removal of sin.

    Who does the saving? Only God can remove sin and deliver us from sin's penalty ( 2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 3:5).

    How does God save? In the Christian doctrine of salvation, God has rescued us through Christ ( John 3:17). Specifically, it was Jesus' death on the cross and subsequent resurrection that achieved our salvation ( Romans 5:10; Ephesians 1:7). Scripture is clear that salvation is the gracious, undeserved gift of God ( Ephesians 2:5, 8) and is only available through faith in Jesus Christ ( Acts 4:12).
  • T Levis - in Reply on Mark 12
    Matthew 6, Matthew 19:16-30, Luke 18:18-30, Luke 14:33, Luke 12,
  • Richard H Priday on Ezra 10
    The subject of "strange wives." 1 Cor. 7:15-16 addresses a similar admonition; in a way as Ezra 10:44. Ezra 10:3 concerns those who are born to them; and since a child isn't supposed to be judged for the sins of the Fathers ( Ezekiel 18:20); this could be an added concession by the people themselves to what God and Ezra commanded. The descendants of certain nations at that time were not allowed in the Temple for corporate worship as well; but there are certainly instances (such as with Ruth the Moabitess; and with Uriah the Hittite which demonstrate there are certainly those who CHOOSE to serve the God of Israel who are accepted into the beloved.

    We need to examine carefully what is being said here. In Corinthians; clearly the N.T. states that an unbelieving wife should STAY in the marriage if she is so disposed; which of course would apply to the believing husband; or vice versa depending on who is of faith. The concept here is of a seductress; so to speak-whatever was drawing them to marry these foreign women was ultimately whatever entity was causing them to be attracted to someone following doctrines of demons; and making them irresistible. There appears to be no protest here of women who wish to follow the God of Israel; rather the emphasis is on those drawn away; which those influences ultimately will do if we allow them in our lives.

    It needs to be noted that SEPARATION; not divorce is mentioned. Even if divorce is implied; there is NO scripture that gives permission to remarry; and also perhaps most noteworthy is that there is NO RECORD of ANY Bible character in the O.T. divorcing. This truly parallels Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9 where those who are remarried are said to commit adultery right after the "exception clause". God is not the author of confusion; apparently contradictory texts have unified meanings; at least in the same circumstances.
  • Alvin - in Reply
    JESUS said that we must not work for money and wealth and that God would provide our needs Matthew 6:19-33 and john 6:27

    He told us to sell all

    Luke 11:41 to the pharisees

    Luke 12:33 to the disciples

    Luke 14:33 to the multitudes

    Luke 18:22, Matthew 19:16-30 to the rich guy

    And his disciples approve

    Acts 2:44-45

    Acts 4:33-34

    Luke 18:28-30

    Matthew 4:18-24

    But who will go to heaven

    Jesus and Jacob give us a hint

    Luke 18:24-25

    Mark 10:17-31

    Matthew 5:3

    Luke 6:20

    James 2:5

    But where does that put the rich?

    Luke 6:24-25

    James 5:1-3

    What is the root of all evil?

    1 timothy 6:10

    Genesis 3

    Are we to live under the curse or are we set free by God through Jesus? Because he broke every curse including this one:

    Genesis 3:17-19

    Should we end in the midst of the Sodomites?

    Ezekiel 16:49-50

    Luke 17:28

    But there are days ahead that we would need to learn to trust in Yahweh for Manna his heavenly bread because the mark of the beast is the last form of money as a chip

    Revelation 13

    But if we learn to do these things that Jesus taught we might survive and prevail.
  • Marke - in Reply
    What must a man do to please God and be saved? Here is what Jesus said.

    Matthew 19

    16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"

    17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments."

    18 "Which ones?" he inquired.

    Jesus replied, "'You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,'[c] and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'[d]"

    20 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"

    21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

    22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

    23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

    We should note a few things about this narrative.



    1. Jesus mentioned commandments but said nothing about keeping the Sabbath.

    2. Keeping the commandments did not make anyone perfect in God's eyes.

    3. Selling your possessions, giving everything away to the poor, and following Jesus full time in poverty was superior to keeping the ten commandments in bringing a sinner closer to God.

    However, assuming keeping the Sabbath or selling into poverty are the keys to entering into God's approval is bad Bible exegesis.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hello Mary. From the details you've given, it appears that the man has separated himself from his wife for his own reasons but keeps coming back to her, maybe for companionship, shelter, food, etc. And he doesn't feel the same way (a lack of love & commitment?) about her anymore.

    There's no clear Scripture to guide one on this specific situation, except the one that T. Levis has given in 1 Corinthians 7:10,11 that speaks of the wife departing the husband. "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife."

    One could look at that Scripture in the other way, where the Truth remains the same, i.e. the husband should not leave his wife, where the Scripture reminds us in Matthew 19:5,6 that they are now one flesh in marriage. So, if the husband wants to separate & live away from his wife & yet come back to his wife other than to apologize & reconcile, then the husband wants a 'marriage' that suits him without giving due regard to his wife. The wife would have to determine whether her love for him is still strong enough to permit that type of relationship (I know a couple of women who live in that state of heart hoping for a real love & commitment to return). Her love for him, though painful, might put up with it.

    But the woman who can see that the husband is playing her will talk about the matter with him & make it clear that she will not put up with his shenanigans & choose to remain estranged (i.e. no visitation or contact) until he comes to his senses & has real love for his wife. That may or may not happen, but with a sincere commitment in prayer to the Lord for His dealing with both their hearts, in time the matter will be resolved one way or tother.
  • Bro dan
    So much lately, I'm hearing this false doctrine where there are those telling themselves and others, that they can ignore God's Commandments.

    Matthew 19:17

    "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

    Jesus tells us here point blank: if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments! Jesus and his apostles tell us over and over to keep the commandments and live accordingly. To believe, as a Christian you can disregard God's Commandments, you are deceiving yourself, and ignoring a multitude of bible scripture telling you otherwise.

    Here are God's Commandments

    1. I am the Lord your God. You shall not have strange gods before me. You shall not make to thyself any graven thing; nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. You shall not adore them nor serve them.

    2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

    3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.

    4. Honor your father and your mother.

    5. You shall not kill.

    6. You shall not commit adultery.

    7. You shall not steal.

    8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.

    10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.

    As a Christ follower why would you NOT want to try keep holy and follow these commandments?

    To disregard, you are telling Jesus that you don't love Him. John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Read and Believe!
  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply
    Hey SolaScrip,

    Is there scripture outside Revelation that confirms an exact 1000 years? The answer is no. Are there false teachers out there? The answer is yes, there are many, 1 John 4:1. Are there scriptures that say the Son of God will reign on earth? The answer is yes. Psalm 2:6-9 Psalm 22:27-31 Isaiah 2:1-4 Isaiah 9:6-7 Isaiah 24:21-23 Jeremiah 23:5 Ezekiel 20:33-44 Ezekiel 39:21-29 Zechariah 2:10-13 Zechariah 8:2-3 Zechariah 14:1-9 Matthew 19:28 Revelation 11:15 Revelation 20:4 and more.

    Is there any scripture that says people will go to or reign in heaven? The answer is no. Are there scriptures that say the elect will reign with Jesus on earth? The answer is yes. Daniel 7:27 2 Timothy 2:11-13 Revelation 5:10. Are there scriptures that describe how things change after Jesus returns? The answer is yes. Zechariah 8:4 Isaiah 11 Isaiah 60:15 Isaiah 65:18-25. These people will be alive on the second coming of Jesus, they will have the opportunity to live longer if they choose to obey God.

    Are there things that have not been revealed to us? The answer is, yes? Jesus will return and set up the kingdom here on earth and He will put all enemies under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:25. Will death still be during the time Jesus is ruling? The answer is yes. The purpose is to fulfill the rest of the scriptures with Jesus, Israel, the Gentiles, and creation that has not yet been fulfilled.

    The only scripture that gives us 1000 years is Revelation, but many scriptures tell us the kingdom will be set up on earth. We have these, Numbers 14:21 Psalms 115:16 Micah 4:1-3 Matthew 5:5 Matthew 6:10. Not to debate, with the time it will take I cannot say the 1000 years are false.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Brother Ronald.

    Part 5 of 5.

    In Genesis 2:22, Adam finally meets the one who corresponds to him, that the LORD God built to be a helper for him. After meeting the woman, Adam says, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she [this one] shall be called woman, because she [this one] was taken out of man" ( Genesis 2:23). In Hebrew the three occurrences of the demonstrative pronoun this (zt) in verse 23 show Adam's exclamation of the one who rightly corresponds to him. The fact that the woman (i) came from the man () shows that they are made of the same stuff. Adam goes on to name his wife "Eve" because she is to become the mother of all the living ( Genesis 3:20).

    Most importantly, in Matthew 19:4-5 Jesus quotes from Genesis 1 and 2 as referring to the same people to make a theological point on marriage. By combining Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 in this way, he in no way regarded them as separate, contradictory accounts of creation. Jesus understood the "male and female" of Genesis 1:27 as "the man" (Adam) and "the woman" (Eve) of Genesis 2:24. Genesis 2 is the beginning of the history of mankind on day six of creation week.

    There is no hint whatsoever in Genesis 2 of a group of pre-existing people from whom God elects the first couple, Adam and Eve. Rather it talks about the supernatural formation of the first man (Adam) and the supernatural "building" of the first woman (Eve). The Bible makes it clear: all mankind came from the first man that God created (cf. Acts 17:26).

    By Simon Turpin of AiG-UK

    Material for research.

    God bless.
  • Charles Robert Northup - in Reply on Matthew 13
    Everything before this verse was to the multitude 36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

    And everything after this verse was to the disciples until verse 53 then he speaks with several different peoples. are you trying to see if he is speaking to us? That's an excuse some people use to justify sin or not obeying what Jesus said which is sin. Let us be clear when Jesus speaks it's to all of us or an example to all of us and the things he says to our Commandments, God does not ask he commands Even more Paul said the things the Apostles said to are the Commandments of God. people don't want to sell all they have and give to the poor then follow Jesus they want to keep it so of course Jesus was just speaking to that one person but Jesus said: Matthew 19:29

    "And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life."

    The last time i checked everyone meant everyone back then and today? We see in Acts believers selling all that they had and owned and giving at the Apostles feet and to the church. Of cousrse you can say in the Greek! it means but no one NO ONE speaks the Greek that was spoken 2000 years ago that's another excuse they use God gave us his word in English the way he wanted it to be and to read and say. The 1769 KJV and there is only 1 reason why you'd change it, you disagree with God's word because you can't live up to what it says to do and be and live. Go to the top of this site hit MORE then the bible introductions 1611 and 1796 it will show you how and by who and what was use to translate it and an incite into what the times were like then

    King James Version (KJV)
  • Marriage - in Reply on Genesis 2
    This what the Commentary on this website has written. Mishael

    Wesley's Notes for Genesis 2:24

    The sabbath and marriage were two ordinances instituted in innocency, the former for the preservation of the church, the latter for the preservation of mankind. It appears by Matthew 19:4,5, that it was God himself who said here, a man must leave all his relations to cleave to his wife; but whether he spake it by Moses or by Adam who spake, Genesis 2:23 is uncertain: It should seem they are the words of Adam__ in God's name, laying down this law to all his posterity. The virtue of a divine ordinance, and the bonds of it, are stronger even than those of nature.

    See how necessary it is that children should take their parents consent with them in their marriage; and how unjust they are to their parents, as well as undutiful, if they marry without it; for they rob them of their right to them, and interest in them, and alienate it to another fraudulently and unnaturally.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 2
    Hello Lyle. I've always understood this verse in Genesis 2:24, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh", as not spoken by Adam, but by the author, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, after what Adam had previously stated in verse 23.

    So, it appears that Moses (as generally attributed to be the main author of Genesis), had deduced that from Adam's words 'that this woman has come out of (made from) me & now one flesh', that in marriages after Adam & Eve's creation, the unity of husband & wife are also seen in similar manner: that before God, they are one, though two distinct beings with their own personalities, special functions, & inclinations. This unity was to be indissoluble except by death. And Jesus also quoted Moses in this matter: Matthew 19:3-6. And so the question that was raised by the Pharisees, 'if this is so, why did Moses allow for a writing of divorcement?' And Jesus went on further to explain this special concession given to a demanding Israel was never in God's Plan for marriage & the union of two people.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Proverbs 5
    H J,

    I'm sad to hear of you're very difficult situation all around. 1st let's start with GOD loves you. How wonderful it is when anyone seeks HIM & HIS truth. 1 John 4:19, John 3:15-16. Deuteronomy 4:29,

    I have wondered about this subject & I ask: if a man/woman marries someone thst is divorced Matthew 19:9, then is that a marriage honorable to GOD ? Or is it sin, continued in?

    Ezra 9,10, it appears only 2 people were against that decision. Ezra 10:15, some of them had children Ezra 10:44, Nehemiah 8:9, Nehemiah 13:23-31,

    Is it sin, to continue in sin?

    John 8:10

    Is that what Jesus would say to you?
  • DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE - in Reply on Proverbs 5
    JESUS'S TEACHING ON DIVORCE

    Matthew 19

    3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for Every cause?

    4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, ( Genesis 2:23-24) that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

    5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

    8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the BEGINNING it was not so.

    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    [Wesley's Notes for Deuteronomy 24:1 Mosaic Law for Divorce]

    Some uncleanness - Some hateful thing, some distemper of body or quality of mind not observed before marriage: or some light carriage, as this phrase commonly signifies, but not amounting to adultery. Let him write - This is not a command as some of the Jews understood it, nor an allowance and approbation, but merely a permission of that practice for prevention of greater mischiefs, and this only until the time of reformation, till the coming of the Messiah when things were to return to their first institution and purest condition.]

    My best advise is to schedule a consult with your Pastor for prayer and conversation. If children are involved; they suffer emotional closeness issues later. I was divorced, raised the child alone; and never remarried in 39 years. I'm a widower now.

    See if you can work things out and rediscover the love you once had.

    Mishael
  • Gigi - in Reply
    Hi Mike

    Omnipotent means all-powerful to the utmost.

    This quality belongs to God only. No creature possess perfect power as He does.

    No creature even comes close to the power of God. What creature could create the universe and its inhabits from nothing? No one. Jesus said the with God, all things are possible ( Matthew 19:26)

    Psalm 62:11 says "..that power belongs to God..."

    Hope this helps
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Yes it is a difficult verse that should be taken like every other action of disobedience concerning the way we function as a Church. It seems the Lord made an exception here in Matthew 19:9.

    I believe When they are Married they lay with each other and that constitute their Marriage, When one commit Adultery they break this constitution. But they may remain Married if chooses to. And I believe in the beginning as it is now they were meant to remain Married under all circumstances under the law of mercy. Same union Christ has with his Church.

    If a spouse divorce the other where there's no fornication then perhaps that spouse should remain unmarried.

    But say this person has grown up in his/her faith acknowledge their wrong doing after he/her remarries, Does he commit an act of disobedience again and repent and get a divorce? Are is that second marriage even valid. The Lord doesn't go into great detail. Probably because as the scripture say the Pharisees came to test him.

    Also so do we factor in lusting with the eyes? Thats Adultery as well.

    Matthew 5:27-28. I believe we are held on a higher standard than just the act. This is one I believe the Lord judges individually and only he has the wisdom to do so.

    God bless.


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