I agree there is a hell. I believe it because the bible says it!
To teach otherwise can be dangerous, It sounds similar to Satan discrediting Gods word when Satan deceived Eve.
"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" Genesis 3:4.
And here's scriptural proof they don't just cease from existing.
1st of all the resurrection, and the term we know as the 2nd death.
Acts 24:15. And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a RESURRECTION of the dead, ( both of the just and UNJUST. )
What's the point in raising the unjust just to send them right back to the grave?
Matthew 25:41, 46 (KJV) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:...42..43..44..
...And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT:
but the righteous into life eternal.
Hell was created for the devil and his angels but his children will go there also, and to take note,
YOU CAN'T WEEP AND NASH TEETH IF YOU NO LONGER EXIST, NEITHER CAN YOU ENDURE EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT.
Matthew 13:42-43. AND SHALL CAST THEM INTO A FURNACE OF FIRE: ""THERE SHALL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Revelation 20:14-15. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the Second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.
HERE IT SEEMS TO BE A RELOCATION, AND DEATH ( AND HELL IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE!! )
When the restrainer is taken out of the way
( Thes 2:7 )
you see how evil men really is. War against God ect.
Revelation 16:9. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
Please forgive me to reply to this but I feel to. I understand you don't believe in Hell, or eternal damnation, though I do and to me it seems it was a very important thing Christ taught. To Repent from sins/iniquity and follow Him down the straight and narrow path that leads to life eternal. As He is the way.
The Lord taught not all are going down that path. Matthew 7:13-14. Here He states not everyone is to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven Matthew 7:21. As He stated there shall be some to go away to everlasting punishment but the righteous to life eternal Matthew 25:31-46. Numerous parables of the wicked being separated from the just in the end Matthew 13:37-50.
Though if Luke 16:19-31, is a parable what it states is not hard to see. The man who suffered and begged died and was carried by angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man who lived lavishly and did not help Lazarus died and was in Hades in torment. Even though he begged for a touch of water He did not receive it. Just being told how Lazarus who suffered was now comforted and he was now in torment. Even when he begged that a message be sent to his family that they repent so they would not end up as he did. He was told that if they hear not Moses and the prophets, they would neither be persuaded by one raising from the dead.
I also don't understand how you think the "fire" of God that tries/chastens us and our works it the same as "eternal fire, torment and punishment".
Could you please explain some of these things? As I see it very dangerous to say a place of eternal damnation does not exist.
Have you ever looked into people who have died, came back to life, and actually experienced a place that is worse than we could imagine? Usually calling it hell and has converted many people to believing in Christ. What would you say to them?
I would never think to tell anyone hell is not real. What if it is and you were wrong? Making people think it doesn't matter what they do?
Joe, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
If Lazarus and and the rich man is not a parable; it makes Christ's words a lie:
Matthew 13:34 ALL these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES;and without a PARABLE SPAKE HE NOT UNTO THEM.
Luke 12:41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest this parable unto us, or even to all?
The disciples walked with Jesus three and one half years and never understood a word he said; UNTIL he took them aside and explained the PARABLES to them. Today you can't understand the PARABLES; unless CHRIST IN YOU explains them to you. Ask and you shall receive.
Ezekiel 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a FIRE in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming FIRE shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein.
Ezekiel 20:42 Then said I, Ah Lord God, Doeth he not speak in PARABLES?
Luke 12:49 I am come to send FIRE on the earth; and what will I, if it be ALREADY KINDLED?
Luke 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptised with; and how am I straightened till it be accomplished!
Matthew 3:11 ......he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost; and with FIRE.
John 10:6 Jesus spake this parable unto them: but they UNDERSTOOD NOT what things they were which he spoke to them.
Everything was to be done at the appointed time. Jesus knew they would try to Make him king before the appointed time.
John 6:15. When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. But when the time came he didn't only allow himself to be presented as king he arranged it.
Luke 19:30-31. Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.
And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.
And then...
Luke 19:37-40. And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, ""THE WHOLE MULTITUDE OF THE DISCIPLES"" began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
saying Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.
And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Fulfilling Zechariah 9:9. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
A time the Jews should have known from the many prophesies. And he met all the criteria
Daniel even gave them a time.
Daniel 9:25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem UNTO THE MESSIAH THE PRINCE SHALL BE SEVEN WEEKS, AND THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Hey Don, if I may add to Chris and Jesse I hope you do not mind, everyone was looking for the Messiah to set up the kingdom then. Even the twelve apostles, no one knew he was going to be crucified even though Jesus told them several times, it was hidden from them, even Satan did not know the purpose of the crucifixion. When Jesus was resurrected the disciples still did not believe until Jesus appeared to them but they still asked Him if He was to set up the kingdom then. Acts 1:6 When they, therefore, were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
If Satan had known he would have stopped the crucifixion because that would have stopped the plan of Satan's demise. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose, the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. The reason was fulfilling prophecy. Mark.4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
They were told the time when the Messiah would come in Daniel 9:25 but their time was up. and the old covenant was to be fulfilled and the new was not yet revealed. Jesus came the first time for the lost sheep of Israel and only the chosen by God was shown Jesus was the Messiah the Christ.
All the others, Matthew 13: 14-16 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Ezekiel 34:8
As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
Proverbs 16:22
Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.
Luke 24:25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Proverbs 15:14
The heart of him that hath understanding seeks knowledge: but the mouth of fools feeds on foolishness.
Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Hebrews 3:19
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Matthew 13:58
And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
Hebrews 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Romans 11:30
For as you in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy...
Romans 1:17-28
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made [people], even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE.
Mishael comment: Not making a choice to receive salvation through Jesus; is a choice. Read John 3 carefully.
Richard, I know you have been taught by the Holy Spirit; because he is causing you see and hear. He gives us the light of his death and resurrection; when we have digested that he causes us to hunger again for more of him. When the next bit of light is digested we hunger once more. This hunger want stop until we are completely filled. Most being fulfilled at the redemption of the purchased possession. WHEN WE WILL BE GIVEN THE SPIRIT WITHOUT MEASURE. In the mean time he keeps giving us more light as we believe.
Matthew 13:12 For whosoever hath (light), to him shall be given (more light), and he shall have more abundance....
I too enjoy studying and being edified with other believers.
I very much enjoy reading your posts. Thank you kindly for your replies. It is a Blessing to be able to converse with you on things like this.
First I will start by saying exactly what shall happen is all up to God, and His Will, as you know. In reality I don't believe any of us can perceive how deep the thoughts, and plans, of God truly are. One day when we return to Him, after our physical death, then we shall know things not known in earth. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
As I'm still not positive if that you perceive ALL to be saved in the end but that's what I think.
If it is God's will that all shall be saved then I'm all for that. For His Will shall be done and whatever that is is what I want also. Though I have so many Scriptures that pertain to things like "the unsaved being cast into eternal damnation, it being better that Judas Iscariot was not even born, things of Heaven(which I believe to be the Spiritual Kingdom of God), our names written in the book of Life, that not everyone's name shall be written in this book, etc." Also of things like you stated how the wisdom of God shall fill the earth. Habakkuk 2:14.
I believe, from my aspect, that all have the choice and chance to be saved by God. His mercy and forgiveness is everlasting. No matter what we have done in our lives. Though it doesn't seem all choose that path or will be with the Lord for eternity. As even angels have sinned and turned against God.
I will just post all the Scriptures I have that I see these things in. As no man taught me about the Lord. God lead me to Jesus Christ who saved me.
About Judas Matthew 26:24.
Not all making it to Heaven Matthew 7:21-23, Matthew 25:41, Matthew 25:46, Matthew 13:37-43, Matthew 13:47-50, Revelation 20:15, Revelation 21:7-8, Revelation 22:14-15, 2 Peter 2:1-9, 2 Peter 2:17,
As you stated. If it may be the way we word things we post that may seem we might not see eye to eye. I don't think we are far off from each other. Though really the most important thing is that we are both with the Lord. As some of my other brothers and sisters here may not agree with me fully on everything. That's ok though. Again the most important thing is Jesus Christ. It is good for us to converse and if we do not agree on a certain point that's ok. We are still of the body of Christ and only trying to help one another.
Just for a couple other Scriptures with some things that are "above", of God, and "agathos" is not used:
Matthew 5:16 and Matthew 13:37-38. About letting your light shine before men of your "good" works to glorify our Father. That the "good" seed are the children of the Kingdom sowed by the Son of Man.
John 10:11. Jesus Christ stating He is the "good" Shepherd.
1 Timothy 2:3. Things being "good" and acceptable in the sight of God.
Titus 2:14. That we who are redeemed by the Lord be zealous of "good" works.
Hebrews 6:5. How the Word of God is "good".
James 2:7. The "worthy" name by which we were called.
To end I liked this one. Galatians 5:22. Both "agathos.." and "chrestotes" are fruits of the Spirit.
As I really can't differentiate that only "agathos.." is of the Spirit of God. That being the word Jesus used in Mark 10:18 does not mean to me this is only for Him. As other words like "excellence, righteous, honorable, wonderful, amazing, almighty, glorious, holy, beautiful, perfect, integrity, etc". To me this does not mean we would have to pick only one of these words for God. All of them fit Him perfectly. As I believe in the Greek, and most other languages, they have different words with somewhat of the same meaning.
As I'd just like to reply to your post and just to bring peace. Like I stated how I agree with Jesse on his view I also agree with you on this. As you give solid reasons in you posts. How even angels have been known to have sinned and turn from God.
Me giving the answer of "yes and no" to this question of OSAS I'm sure would not hold up well to most. Though as I stated that God knows who shall endure until the end as in Matthew 24:13 being they that shall be saved. The Lord knowing His sheep. Though we as men should not take this situation lightly at all. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. As we have been bought with a price and we are His children 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. To live by His Will not our own and to follow our Lord Jesus Christ with zeal.
Taking this in the way of the parable of the sower in Matthew 13:18-23, seems to be accurate. In that those who fall away may have not even been truly saved in the first place. Though only God can really answer that truthfully.
We must strive to not lose our savor as our Lord told us. To run the race till the end keeping the faith.
Again I also side with you in that this is no small matter to take lightly as some may today. Just reading through the first three chapters of Revelation and seeing how Jesus Christ spake unto the churches. Having good things to say and bad things to get them to repent of and focus on Him. Sometimes I say to some people "Would you want the Lord to be happy with you or disappointed in you"?
We have been Blessed with free will. This is what makes people who endure till the end even more special. With a pure heart. To one day be glorified and be with our Lord where He is. Amen.
I am glad to hear you liked that verse I posted. I agree with how you explain about "salvation" being lost is really more for them that you may ask "were they ever really saved"? Jesus Christ knows His sheep and is known of them when it is revealed. When it is time for our Father to draw us to Him.
As the Hebrews had a lot to lose to follow the Lord and give their lives to Him. As I'm sure there are many people today in which their lives in this world may be more important that giving their lives to the Lord. It seems almost to parallel directly to the parable our Lord told us in Matthew 13:18-23. Being they who received seed in stony places or thorns. As us who are saved, and sealed, unto salvation are as they who received seed in good ground and bear good fruit for our Father in Heaven.
I have been studying on the subject of fasting. It is something I have never personally participated in nor fully comprehend. In reading Matthew 13:1-23 I have learned God wants to clear out the "rocks and weeds" in my life breaking up the hard soil. So my question is how? What must I do to take this next step in my spiritual walk? Is it structured or done during a certain month? I would appreciate any feedback, guidance, or further reading to be considered before moving forward.
Jesus needed to live a normal human existence, identifying in every way with His people, with their sufferings, their joys, hopes, doubts, sicknesses, etc. And He could only do this if He came as a Babe, growing up as a young man & fulfilling the Will of God in life & death. ( Hebrews 2:16-18). And even though the people saw Him only as the son of Joseph & Mary ( Matthew 13:55,56), they should have known the Scriptures that spoke of His coming ( Isaiah 7:14; Daniel 9:24-26; Isaiah chaps 52 & 53; Zechariah 9:9, 12:10; & many others).
To your other questions: "what was Christ's victory over?" Ultimately, He was victorious over death & hell; by implication: over sin's penalty & over Satan's power to all who believed. 2 Timothy 1:10; 1 Corinthians 15:25,26 & Revelation 20:14.
And "how did He achieve this victory?" Only by the Cross. What seemed to the world & to Satan as the final death blow to Jesus to be rid of Him, in fact became the very means of salvation to all who would believe on Him. Jesus' resurrection was God's glorious proclamation of His acceptance that sin's price was now fully paid & that all who put their trust in Him would be cleansed by Jesus' Blood, justified, accepted & glorified ( Romans 8:30).
Carleton More inspired God the Son scriptures by a few of my brethren Part 3 - In Reply on Genesis 14 - 3 years ago
"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even we also should walk in newness of life. For if we had been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 64-11
"he ever liveth to make intercession for us" Hebrews 7:25
"And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" 1 John 2:1
"No man hath seen the God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" John 1:18
"I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world" Matthew 13:35
"In my Father's house are many mansions.... I go to prepare a place for you" John 14:2
"God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good" Acts 10:38
"Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps" 1 Peter 2:21
"For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" John 13:15
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11
The sheep are being separated from the goats, the wheat from the tares. Keep steadfast in your faith my brothers and sisters in Christ.
Matthew 13:37-43 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 25:31-34 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Matthew 13:16-17 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Matthew 13:47-50 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
The best advice I can give to you is first and foremost, KEEP reading your Bible daily, read it slowly and purposefully. I trust no other Bible than The King James, I recommend getting a good study Bible, I use The Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible: KJV Edition it is an excellent Bible for studding. I study under an excellent Bible teacher named David Hocking; davidhocking.org. If you do a search on youtube for him you will find a great amount of videos of him teaching The Bible. A young man as yourself should start reading in Proverbs in the old testament, I only wish I had at your age. Then I would start in The Book of John.
Remember temptation is sever, Fight It At All Cost!
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Ezekiel 33:11-20
( Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 12:35-36 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 13:37-43
( John 5:26-29
( Romans 2:2-11
( Romans 6:1-2
( Romans 6:15-23
( James 2:14-20
( 1 Peter 4:16-19
( 2 Peter 2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
I heard this chapter used to support the partial rapture, multiple raptures, first fruits doctrine of Robert Govett. I think it has more to do with the parable of the wheat and the tares Matthew 13:24-30.
Elijah shows after Rev 614 through Rev 612 just before the 6th trumpet - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
If the wanker is behaving like Caligula, while entertaining impure thoughts of coitus with his married neighbor----his imagination is sinful, is it not? You are correct for our society, but perhaps not some thousands of years ago.
In Noah's time there were 900 year old giants roaming around. They lived long lives to populate the earth, until the time of Moses when the life span was cut to 120. So, I'm sure this group of procreating flood survivors would not take any tossing away of seeds lightly, and therefore might consider a wank a sin. It's really the secondary charge, the sin of lust that exposes the wanker. This is the basis for Gen 38:8-10.
Of Biblical law: if you think of adultery, you are guilty of adultery (to include perversions).
As far as where the seeds should go, and where they shouldn't go, please see Matthew 13:3-8 & 18-23. There is subtle symbolism, enough to say that God doesn't like errant seeds.
Hi Ronald. According to Matthew 13:55,56, "Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?"
Since Jesus' birth as the Son of God wasn't the result of the procreation of Joseph & Mary but of Divine Seed, His birth had to be exceptional, both in terms of his dual Being as Human & Divine, but also in His relationship to His 'parents & siblings'. His four brothers & sisters (not told their number), could only ever be Jesus' 'half' brothers/sisters as they came into the world from the union of their parents, unlike Jesus coming from God, His Father, the Producer of that Holy Seed.
The questions then arise: did Jesus also have similar DNA (or, even genetic markers) as the other siblings or His Mother, or did Jesus' physical appearance have similarities to the others? Depending on where your understanding on this is (i.e. if Jesus' birth was wholly Divine with Mary only contributing to His human nurture, sustenance & delivery of the Babe from the womb; or, if Jesus' birth was half Divine & half human thereby giving Him both Sonship to God & man), you might have your answer. My belief is that Jesus' was wholly Divine for the simple reason that if He wasn't, then the sin nature (of Mary) would have been passed onto Him: & I don't understand that from Scripture. Others, might understand this differently.
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LORD OF THE HARVEST
"For unsaved loved ones, it takes rock solid faith in Jesus (unmovable), to pray for the Lord of the Harvest to send laborers into the paths of your resistant relatives.
He arranges divine appointments for people to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ with the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.
They, with the Father, CREATED all we see and know. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? In REVELATION there is a scene of Jesus with a sickle, reaping the Harvest.
Get in on this! Pray for these stubborn relatives, loved ones, belligerent teenagers; even the old, the drugged up; the angry at life, everybody! Even perfect strangers.
Christ-like Love should drive you to your knees, often if not every day. Budget one hour to do serious business in your prayer life. Pray for LABORERS TO BE SENT.
This is called, love and obedience to the known will of God. Jesus is the Lord of the Harvest. Sitting at the right hand of God, making intercession for all saints. Ask and receive. Keep your faith fixed on Jesus only.
PRAY TO THE LORD OF THE HARVEST.
" Matthew 9:37
Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into MY BARN.
Matthew 13:39
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels."
Joel 3:13
Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
do you have any scripture to support that he is going to impregnate the world with his precious seed, or our child is the HG, I can't find any. thanks
When the Word was made flesh (Jesus), John 1:14 he came to publish God's Word and suffer on the cross for our salvation and before he was crucified, he preached to his apostles that he would send the Comforter Acts 2:4 after he goes to the Father, John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
Matthew 13:24 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:" Matthew 13:37 "He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;" Matthew 13:38 "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;" Matthew 13:39 "The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels." Matthew 13:40 "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world." Matthew 13:43 "Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."
Luke 11:27 "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 "But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
"What he did at Calvary is gonna apply the blood to everyman no exceptions ." So you believe this includes the rich man in hell who wanted water from Lazarus?
To whom will Jesus say, "I never knew you." Matthew 7:23
People weeping and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dieth not and the fire never quenched. Mark 9:42 - 49
You are heretical in what you are saying, and it appears you are knowingly doing this. I doubt I am the first person to have told you of your error.
My dear friend, if you are posting questions so you can have a fight that is not good. Only dogs fight ( Revelation 22:15; Revelation 11:1-2). The word Elohim (God) is plural (Eloah being its singular) See: ( Genesis 1:2; Genesis 1:26; John 1:1; Isaiah 9:6; Deuteronomy 6:4). Your line of reasoning is the same as saying that while your mother and father are Williams, you are simply Kevin so you do not wear their title because you are only the son. There is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Please read Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 1, Ezekiel 1, John 1. Read also the apostle Paul to the Phillipians (Philipians 2:12).
However, I will not continue this... Matthew 13:41. May God bless you.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
I agree there is a hell. I believe it because the bible says it!
To teach otherwise can be dangerous, It sounds similar to Satan discrediting Gods word when Satan deceived Eve.
"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" Genesis 3:4.
And here's scriptural proof they don't just cease from existing.
1st of all the resurrection, and the term we know as the 2nd death.
Acts 24:15. And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a RESURRECTION of the dead, ( both of the just and UNJUST. )
What's the point in raising the unjust just to send them right back to the grave?
Matthew 25:41, 46 (KJV) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:...42..43..44..
...And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT:
but the righteous into life eternal.
Hell was created for the devil and his angels but his children will go there also, and to take note,
YOU CAN'T WEEP AND NASH TEETH IF YOU NO LONGER EXIST, NEITHER CAN YOU ENDURE EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT.
Matthew 13:42-43. AND SHALL CAST THEM INTO A FURNACE OF FIRE: ""THERE SHALL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Revelation 20:14-15. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the Second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.
HERE IT SEEMS TO BE A RELOCATION, AND DEATH ( AND HELL IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE!! )
When the restrainer is taken out of the way
( Thes 2:7 )
you see how evil men really is. War against God ect.
Revelation 16:9. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
They'll be just like their father the Devil.
No repentance. Forever tormented.
The scripture is clear.
GB.
Please forgive me to reply to this but I feel to. I understand you don't believe in Hell, or eternal damnation, though I do and to me it seems it was a very important thing Christ taught. To Repent from sins/iniquity and follow Him down the straight and narrow path that leads to life eternal. As He is the way.
The Lord taught not all are going down that path. Matthew 7:13-14. Here He states not everyone is to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven Matthew 7:21. As He stated there shall be some to go away to everlasting punishment but the righteous to life eternal Matthew 25:31-46. Numerous parables of the wicked being separated from the just in the end Matthew 13:37-50.
Though if Luke 16:19-31, is a parable what it states is not hard to see. The man who suffered and begged died and was carried by angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man who lived lavishly and did not help Lazarus died and was in Hades in torment. Even though he begged for a touch of water He did not receive it. Just being told how Lazarus who suffered was now comforted and he was now in torment. Even when he begged that a message be sent to his family that they repent so they would not end up as he did. He was told that if they hear not Moses and the prophets, they would neither be persuaded by one raising from the dead.
I also don't understand how you think the "fire" of God that tries/chastens us and our works it the same as "eternal fire, torment and punishment".
Could you please explain some of these things? As I see it very dangerous to say a place of eternal damnation does not exist.
Have you ever looked into people who have died, came back to life, and actually experienced a place that is worse than we could imagine? Usually calling it hell and has converted many people to believing in Christ. What would you say to them?
I would never think to tell anyone hell is not real. What if it is and you were wrong? Making people think it doesn't matter what they do?
Thanks God Bless.
If Lazarus and and the rich man is not a parable; it makes Christ's words a lie:
Matthew 13:34 ALL these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES;and without a PARABLE SPAKE HE NOT UNTO THEM.
Luke 12:41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest this parable unto us, or even to all?
The disciples walked with Jesus three and one half years and never understood a word he said; UNTIL he took them aside and explained the PARABLES to them. Today you can't understand the PARABLES; unless CHRIST IN YOU explains them to you. Ask and you shall receive.
Ezekiel 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a FIRE in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming FIRE shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein.
Ezekiel 20:42 Then said I, Ah Lord God, Doeth he not speak in PARABLES?
Luke 12:49 I am come to send FIRE on the earth; and what will I, if it be ALREADY KINDLED?
Luke 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptised with; and how am I straightened till it be accomplished!
Matthew 3:11 ......he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost; and with FIRE.
John 10:6 Jesus spake this parable unto them: but they UNDERSTOOD NOT what things they were which he spoke to them.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming FIRE.
Everything was to be done at the appointed time. Jesus knew they would try to Make him king before the appointed time.
John 6:15. When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. But when the time came he didn't only allow himself to be presented as king he arranged it.
Luke 19:30-31. Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.
And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.
And then...
Luke 19:37-40. And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, ""THE WHOLE MULTITUDE OF THE DISCIPLES"" began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
saying Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.
And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Fulfilling Zechariah 9:9. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
A time the Jews should have known from the many prophesies. And he met all the criteria
Daniel even gave them a time.
Daniel 9:25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem UNTO THE MESSIAH THE PRINCE SHALL BE SEVEN WEEKS, AND THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
But they couldn't perceive. Matthew 13:14.
as Ron stated.
And it seems they were held accountable in
Luke 19:41-44.
Goodmorning and God bless.
If Satan had known he would have stopped the crucifixion because that would have stopped the plan of Satan's demise. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose, the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. The reason was fulfilling prophecy. Mark.4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
They were told the time when the Messiah would come in Daniel 9:25 but their time was up. and the old covenant was to be fulfilled and the new was not yet revealed. Jesus came the first time for the lost sheep of Israel and only the chosen by God was shown Jesus was the Messiah the Christ.
All the others, Matthew 13: 14-16 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
God bless, Ron
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Ezekiel 34:8
As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
Proverbs 16:22
Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.
Luke 24:25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Proverbs 15:14
The heart of him that hath understanding seeks knowledge: but the mouth of fools feeds on foolishness.
Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Hebrews 3:19
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Matthew 13:58
And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
Hebrews 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Romans 11:30
For as you in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy...
Romans 1:17-28
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made [people], even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE.
Mishael comment: Not making a choice to receive salvation through Jesus; is a choice. Read John 3 carefully.
Matthew 13:12 For whosoever hath (light), to him shall be given (more light), and he shall have more abundance....
I too enjoy studying and being edified with other believers.
I very much enjoy reading your posts. Thank you kindly for your replies. It is a Blessing to be able to converse with you on things like this.
First I will start by saying exactly what shall happen is all up to God, and His Will, as you know. In reality I don't believe any of us can perceive how deep the thoughts, and plans, of God truly are. One day when we return to Him, after our physical death, then we shall know things not known in earth. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
As I'm still not positive if that you perceive ALL to be saved in the end but that's what I think.
If it is God's will that all shall be saved then I'm all for that. For His Will shall be done and whatever that is is what I want also. Though I have so many Scriptures that pertain to things like "the unsaved being cast into eternal damnation, it being better that Judas Iscariot was not even born, things of Heaven(which I believe to be the Spiritual Kingdom of God), our names written in the book of Life, that not everyone's name shall be written in this book, etc." Also of things like you stated how the wisdom of God shall fill the earth. Habakkuk 2:14.
I believe, from my aspect, that all have the choice and chance to be saved by God. His mercy and forgiveness is everlasting. No matter what we have done in our lives. Though it doesn't seem all choose that path or will be with the Lord for eternity. As even angels have sinned and turned against God.
I will just post all the Scriptures I have that I see these things in. As no man taught me about the Lord. God lead me to Jesus Christ who saved me.
About Judas Matthew 26:24.
Not all making it to Heaven Matthew 7:21-23, Matthew 25:41, Matthew 25:46, Matthew 13:37-43, Matthew 13:47-50, Revelation 20:15, Revelation 21:7-8, Revelation 22:14-15, 2 Peter 2:1-9, 2 Peter 2:17,
Heaven Matthew 25:31-34, 2 Timothy 4:6-8, Philippians 3:20-21, 2 Timothy 4:6-8, 2 Timothy 4:18.
2 Peter 1:20. May the Lord bring us closer together.
God Bless.
Just for a couple other Scriptures with some things that are "above", of God, and "agathos" is not used:
Matthew 5:16 and Matthew 13:37-38. About letting your light shine before men of your "good" works to glorify our Father. That the "good" seed are the children of the Kingdom sowed by the Son of Man.
John 10:11. Jesus Christ stating He is the "good" Shepherd.
1 Timothy 2:3. Things being "good" and acceptable in the sight of God.
Titus 2:14. That we who are redeemed by the Lord be zealous of "good" works.
Hebrews 6:5. How the Word of God is "good".
James 2:7. The "worthy" name by which we were called.
To end I liked this one. Galatians 5:22. Both "agathos.." and "chrestotes" are fruits of the Spirit.
As I really can't differentiate that only "agathos.." is of the Spirit of God. That being the word Jesus used in Mark 10:18 does not mean to me this is only for Him. As other words like "excellence, righteous, honorable, wonderful, amazing, almighty, glorious, holy, beautiful, perfect, integrity, etc". To me this does not mean we would have to pick only one of these words for God. All of them fit Him perfectly. As I believe in the Greek, and most other languages, they have different words with somewhat of the same meaning.
God Bless.
As I'd just like to reply to your post and just to bring peace. Like I stated how I agree with Jesse on his view I also agree with you on this. As you give solid reasons in you posts. How even angels have been known to have sinned and turn from God.
Me giving the answer of "yes and no" to this question of OSAS I'm sure would not hold up well to most. Though as I stated that God knows who shall endure until the end as in Matthew 24:13 being they that shall be saved. The Lord knowing His sheep. Though we as men should not take this situation lightly at all. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. As we have been bought with a price and we are His children 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. To live by His Will not our own and to follow our Lord Jesus Christ with zeal.
Taking this in the way of the parable of the sower in Matthew 13:18-23, seems to be accurate. In that those who fall away may have not even been truly saved in the first place. Though only God can really answer that truthfully.
We must strive to not lose our savor as our Lord told us. To run the race till the end keeping the faith.
Again I also side with you in that this is no small matter to take lightly as some may today. Just reading through the first three chapters of Revelation and seeing how Jesus Christ spake unto the churches. Having good things to say and bad things to get them to repent of and focus on Him. Sometimes I say to some people "Would you want the Lord to be happy with you or disappointed in you"?
We have been Blessed with free will. This is what makes people who endure till the end even more special. With a pure heart. To one day be glorified and be with our Lord where He is. Amen.
I am glad to hear you liked that verse I posted. I agree with how you explain about "salvation" being lost is really more for them that you may ask "were they ever really saved"? Jesus Christ knows His sheep and is known of them when it is revealed. When it is time for our Father to draw us to Him.
As the Hebrews had a lot to lose to follow the Lord and give their lives to Him. As I'm sure there are many people today in which their lives in this world may be more important that giving their lives to the Lord. It seems almost to parallel directly to the parable our Lord told us in Matthew 13:18-23. Being they who received seed in stony places or thorns. As us who are saved, and sealed, unto salvation are as they who received seed in good ground and bear good fruit for our Father in Heaven.
God Bless.
I have been studying on the subject of fasting. It is something I have never personally participated in nor fully comprehend. In reading Matthew 13:1-23 I have learned God wants to clear out the "rocks and weeds" in my life breaking up the hard soil. So my question is how? What must I do to take this next step in my spiritual walk? Is it structured or done during a certain month? I would appreciate any feedback, guidance, or further reading to be considered before moving forward.
Sincerely,
Stephanie
Jesus needed to live a normal human existence, identifying in every way with His people, with their sufferings, their joys, hopes, doubts, sicknesses, etc. And He could only do this if He came as a Babe, growing up as a young man & fulfilling the Will of God in life & death. ( Hebrews 2:16-18). And even though the people saw Him only as the son of Joseph & Mary ( Matthew 13:55,56), they should have known the Scriptures that spoke of His coming ( Isaiah 7:14; Daniel 9:24-26; Isaiah chaps 52 & 53; Zechariah 9:9, 12:10; & many others).
To your other questions: "what was Christ's victory over?" Ultimately, He was victorious over death & hell; by implication: over sin's penalty & over Satan's power to all who believed. 2 Timothy 1:10; 1 Corinthians 15:25,26 & Revelation 20:14.
And "how did He achieve this victory?" Only by the Cross. What seemed to the world & to Satan as the final death blow to Jesus to be rid of Him, in fact became the very means of salvation to all who would believe on Him. Jesus' resurrection was God's glorious proclamation of His acceptance that sin's price was now fully paid & that all who put their trust in Him would be cleansed by Jesus' Blood, justified, accepted & glorified ( Romans 8:30).
"he ever liveth to make intercession for us" Hebrews 7:25
"And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" 1 John 2:1
"No man hath seen the God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" John 1:18
"I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world" Matthew 13:35
"In my Father's house are many mansions.... I go to prepare a place for you" John 14:2
"God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good" Acts 10:38
"Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps" 1 Peter 2:21
"For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" John 13:15
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11
"I am a debtor" Romans 1:14
Matthew 13:37-43 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 25:31-34 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Matthew 13:47-50 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Revelation 10:7
1 Thessalonians 4:16
1 Corinthians 15:44
Matthew 24:31
1 Thessalonians 4:17
1 Corinthians 15:32
Philippians 3:21
1 John 3:2
Matthew 13:43
Daniel 12:3
Revelation 21:4, 5
Colossians 1:20
John 10
Matthew 22:10
Matthew 25:34
Isaiah 65:17-19
2 Peter 3:13
1 Corinthians 2:9
Matthew 21:15
Psalm 8:3
Isaiah 65 19-25
Revelation 7:16-17
so much more...
:)
The best advice I can give to you is first and foremost, KEEP reading your Bible daily, read it slowly and purposefully. I trust no other Bible than The King James, I recommend getting a good study Bible, I use The Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible: KJV Edition it is an excellent Bible for studding. I study under an excellent Bible teacher named David Hocking; davidhocking.org. If you do a search on youtube for him you will find a great amount of videos of him teaching The Bible. A young man as yourself should start reading in Proverbs in the old testament, I only wish I had at your age. Then I would start in The Book of John.
Remember temptation is sever, Fight It At All Cost!
GOD Bless You and Keep The Faith
Jeff
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Ezekiel 33:11-20
( Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 12:35-36 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 13:37-43
( John 5:26-29
( Romans 2:2-11
( Romans 6:1-2
( Romans 6:15-23
( James 2:14-20
( 1 Peter 4:16-19
( 2 Peter 2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In Noah's time there were 900 year old giants roaming around. They lived long lives to populate the earth, until the time of Moses when the life span was cut to 120. So, I'm sure this group of procreating flood survivors would not take any tossing away of seeds lightly, and therefore might consider a wank a sin. It's really the secondary charge, the sin of lust that exposes the wanker. This is the basis for Gen 38:8-10.
Of Biblical law: if you think of adultery, you are guilty of adultery (to include perversions).
As far as where the seeds should go, and where they shouldn't go, please see Matthew 13:3-8 & 18-23. There is subtle symbolism, enough to say that God doesn't like errant seeds.
Since Jesus' birth as the Son of God wasn't the result of the procreation of Joseph & Mary but of Divine Seed, His birth had to be exceptional, both in terms of his dual Being as Human & Divine, but also in His relationship to His 'parents & siblings'. His four brothers & sisters (not told their number), could only ever be Jesus' 'half' brothers/sisters as they came into the world from the union of their parents, unlike Jesus coming from God, His Father, the Producer of that Holy Seed.
The questions then arise: did Jesus also have similar DNA (or, even genetic markers) as the other siblings or His Mother, or did Jesus' physical appearance have similarities to the others? Depending on where your understanding on this is (i.e. if Jesus' birth was wholly Divine with Mary only contributing to His human nurture, sustenance & delivery of the Babe from the womb; or, if Jesus' birth was half Divine & half human thereby giving Him both Sonship to God & man), you might have your answer. My belief is that Jesus' was wholly Divine for the simple reason that if He wasn't, then the sin nature (of Mary) would have been passed onto Him: & I don't understand that from Scripture. Others, might understand this differently.
LORD OF THE HARVEST
"For unsaved loved ones, it takes rock solid faith in Jesus (unmovable), to pray for the Lord of the Harvest to send laborers into the paths of your resistant relatives.
He arranges divine appointments for people to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ with the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.
They, with the Father, CREATED all we see and know. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? In REVELATION there is a scene of Jesus with a sickle, reaping the Harvest.
Get in on this! Pray for these stubborn relatives, loved ones, belligerent teenagers; even the old, the drugged up; the angry at life, everybody! Even perfect strangers.
Christ-like Love should drive you to your knees, often if not every day. Budget one hour to do serious business in your prayer life. Pray for LABORERS TO BE SENT.
This is called, love and obedience to the known will of God. Jesus is the Lord of the Harvest. Sitting at the right hand of God, making intercession for all saints. Ask and receive. Keep your faith fixed on Jesus only.
PRAY TO THE LORD OF THE HARVEST.
" Matthew 9:37
Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into MY BARN.
Matthew 13:39
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels."
Joel 3:13
Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
Mark 4:29
When the Word was made flesh (Jesus), John 1:14 he came to publish God's Word and suffer on the cross for our salvation and before he was crucified, he preached to his apostles that he would send the Comforter Acts 2:4 after he goes to the Father, John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
Matthew 13:24 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:" Matthew 13:37 "He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;" Matthew 13:38 "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;" Matthew 13:39 "The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels." Matthew 13:40 "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world." Matthew 13:43 "Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."
Luke 11:27 "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 "But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
To whom will Jesus say, "I never knew you." Matthew 7:23
People weeping and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dieth not and the fire never quenched. Mark 9:42 - 49
You are heretical in what you are saying, and it appears you are knowingly doing this. I doubt I am the first person to have told you of your error.
However, I will not continue this... Matthew 13:41. May God bless you.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.