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  • Richard H Priday - 4 months ago
    The Terror of the Lord

    Revelation 14:9-11

    9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

    About 15 years ago and several times before that I had a vision of the pure terror involved with the mark of the Beast. I have since told people that I would ask the Lord would give them such insight but not for those who aren't spiritually strong. The Lord has held back the day of Judgment, but it is promised to be worse than any time in the past and future. Mark 13:19 as well as other New Testament passages and Daniel 12 show proof of this. Without Christ we are dragged in; to the sieve of destruction ( Isaiah 30:28). Suddenly the wicked are broken and that without remedy ( Prov. 6:15).

    To realize how fearful judgment is apart from Christ I cannot put into words. When we see Mystery Babylon we can't help but be reminded of the American Pie song with its lyrics

    I went down to the sacred store

    Where I'd heard the music years before

    But the man there said the music wouldn't play

    These remind us of Ecclesiastes 12:4 as well as Lamentations 5:14 along with other stanzas in this song about the Lord taking off and no more joyful music as stated in Revelation 18:22. We are hypnotized by music and media today and its demonic mantras and dulled in our senses with the vulgar obsenities that increasingly assail the rightous. The agenda is out in the open at this point; Satan's hour is about to arrive. Christ comes soon so rejoice
  • T Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Generation as described biblically: Please read = Genesis 7:1, Ecclesiastes 1:4, Lamentations 5:19, Daniel 4:3, Matthew 1,

    In comparison to your example of Noah- Exodus 20:1-5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 2:14, Judges 2:10, 2Kings 10:30, 2Kings 15:12, Hebrews 3, Luke 1:50, Psalms 102:18, John 17,

    Prophetic about Jesus & other generations- Proverbs 30:12,13,14, Isaiah 53:8, Matthew 11,

    Psalms 12:6-7, Psalms 14,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Gerald - In Reply on Lamentations 5 - 1 year ago
    Amen to that .

    Man always thinks he knows better than God and with the devils nudges will and still does change the truth into a lie.

    By simply adding one word in the beginning ," not".

    And changing " in " to "on" at the last in revelations 3.

    I have always found if I don't believe God on a point it's never the scriptures that are wrong but me.

    Sooner or later . Thankfully not too late to repent .
  • T Levis - In Reply on Lamentations 5 - 1 year ago
    Lamentations 5:10, malnutrition in humans especially elderly can cause blackening under skin, broken blood vessels also, it can affect all natural colors of people. The scripture seems to clearly point to the unnatural coloration of malnutrition, not the natural vast variations of skin colors He Created.
  • Anonymous on Lamentations 5 - 1 year ago
    Don't agree with Myron.We can't take away or add to the bible.If famine was the word used we have to accept it. Sure it's meaning meant what it meant in history at that time and now. No food no nutrients can change skin.God knew what he wanted written.Who are we to correct it.
  • To Jo Carroll - In Reply - 1 year ago
    James 1:27

    PURE RELIGION and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

    Jeremiah 49:11

    Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.

    Lamentations 5:3

    We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.

    1 Timothy 5:3

    Honour widows that are widows indeed.

    1 Timothy 5:16

    If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.

    Psalms 68:5

    A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.

    Mishael
  • Widows and Orphans - In Reply on Mark 12 - 2 years ago
    Jeremiah 49:11

    Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.

    Lamentations 5:3

    We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.

    Mark Chapter 12

    41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

    42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

    43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

    44 For all they did cast in of their ABUNDANCE, but she of her WANT did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

    Comment: Jesus sees what we put in the offering, and what's in our hearts.
  • Bro dan - 2 years ago
    Hi Brother S Spenser,

    Sorry, I couldn't answer your previous post/response - as the previous thread regarding this topic of discussion was closed.

    I do agree with you, and also Jesse, I believe the scripture below relates to the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus.The scripture you attached also clarifies it in my understanding even more.

    Luke 17:34

    "I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left."

    Luke 17:35

    "Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

    As you may know over the years, some have alluded to possible homosexual evidence to this scripture above. GiGi weighed in previously, stating that it was not uncommon for people to share beds, as they were a short commodity during the time period. This makes sense.

    To expand, I was curious about this scripture in Luke, and got sidetracked a bit, and in I my research, I found scripture in the OT specifically regarding the usage of the word "grind" or "grinding" relating to sex. The word seemed to be a slang word see related scripture.

    Job 31:10

    Judges 16:21

    Lamentations 5:13

    In researching this further, I do believe the the word grinding was a valid slang word for sex during those days. I'm still not sure if Luke was really referring to this in his scripture. I also compared it to the alternate scripture in Matthew, where Matthew states" grinding at the mill" whereas Luke did not add the "mill" in his composition.

    Matthew 24:41

    "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

    I'm leaning toward - there may be no sexual undercurrent in this scripture as some people may think.

    God Bless
  • Ayanna on Lamentations 5:10 - 3 years ago
    I definitely agree with Xavier
  • PW on Lamentations 5:10 - 3 years ago
    Myron is correct. In other translations the word is "feverish", "scorched" and "hot" all of which make a lot more sense as a famine would hardly cause your skin to become Black.
  • Fred - In Reply on Lamentations 5 - 4 years ago
    Being conceived and born into sin, we are without the knowledge of God.Without the priests, or prophets their could be no way to hear! The consequences , being here lamented. America, you have the freedom to search the scriptures, you have the opportunity to be free from the slavery of sin! Jesus has freed us, no matter what color we are,we are subject only too Him! Glory to God!
  • Sharon on Lamentations 5 - 5 years ago
    Sin darkens and balcken the people heart. God cannot enter into a black heart. Men see the color of skin and hate. God sees the color of our heart and punish us, for our sins of the heart God does not judge by skin color, because the Son of God was never black, white, or brown. Jesus is the color of love, and what color is love it is the color of light and eternal life, which only comes from God.
  • Marlo on Lamentations 5 - 5 years ago
    Reading this passage of scripture put our history in perspective, and gives us, people of color, a sense of kinship with the people represented in the Bible. I feel a depth of love and gratitude when reading lametations from the perspective of a descendant of a 19th century slave in America. I am thankful to the LORD God for passages of scriptures such as these they are a balm to a weary soul.
  • Marlo on Lamentations 5 - 5 years ago
    For the prophet to describe the state of the skin of the children is significant. To associate the skin with 'as blas as an oven' shows a physical presentation of something that was common knowledge thousands of years ago. No it has nothing to do race, but yet everything to do with race. Why, when a person of color looks at the history of America, we can't help but to cry of this injustice.
  • Obbie Beal on Lamentations 5 - 5 years ago
    GOD's wrath is shown in the above; now 2018 and the 'whole world' is receiving the wrath of GOD (to some degree) because of sins, and we (saved and unsaved) can see the wrath of GOD everyday (except those that is blinded). ...Through MERCY we have received numerous extensions of days that the last one become Saved / SALVATION. WOW! WOW! WOW!
  • Tony on Lamentations 5 - 6 years ago
    heartbreaking
  • A disciple on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    We read these very dreadful words, and can't help but think of the doom of our own Country because of apostasy and sin, and so much innocent blood! Jeremiah 25 speaks about these things. What is most tragic, is how that most are too hardened and indifferent to the things of God, and so, to their own eternal welfare; that they will never benefit from the Spirit's words through the Prophets.
  • Diesel on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    PSALMS 85 vs 11 THE REAL TRUTH IS COMING OUT.
  • Kiya on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    It is talking about turning from your old ways ,it also mentioned God turning us because we can't do it by ourselves, turn ask for help.
  • Cinderella on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    Well let's not forget not to judge person for what they eat, drink or how they keep their Sabbath days. Prayer is most powerful and speak everything in love we all get deceived but God will guide Xavier. He did it for Paul and us.
  • Michael C. on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    We should not look at these verses as anything but what they are; A Lamentation. It says in Moses how that after ages and generations of sinning and defiance; if one finally come to himself and repent, and accept the punishment of his sins, and the sins of his ancestors; that God would then accept him: ( Lev. 26). We too have to accept God's judgment against our whole history, in the things coming.
  • Yashura Israel on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    The truth is unraveling..... May The Most High Be With You....Shalom..
  • Nikki on Lamentations 5 - 7 years ago
    Xavier Verse 10 has nothing to do with race it is self explanatory. Read it again. May the eyes of ypu understanding be enlightened..
  • Keith Peters on Lamentations 5 - 8 years ago
    It is a cry for revival
  • Chuck on Lamentations 5 - 8 years ago
    hello xavier lam5-10 has nothing to do with race this has to do with the
    jewish people who were sinning against GOD repent you are deceived
    pretty soon you will say jesus was black he was jewish please read your
    bible and let the holy spirit open your eyes.
  • Myron on Lamentations 5:10 - 9 years ago
    Xavier 's comment is ill informed since the Hebrew word for black doesn 't appear in this verse "lamar " means to yearn or kindl The most likely word in Hebrew to describe a person with "black " skin would be "shachor ". Regardless Heaven will be populated by people of "every tribe and tongue and people " with God it 's not about so called "race ". Also this verse uses "lamar " as a metaphor for the effects of severe starvation.
  • Eruzegbua mathias on Lamentations 5:7 - 9 years ago
    This bible passage is talking about the sins of the father falling on the children from generation to generation. it is called Evil foundation of fore father having negative effect on the generation to come. it takes the grace of God to destroy such evil foundation.
  • Xavier johnson on Lamentations 5:10 - 10 years ago
    I think that Lamentations 5:10 is a clear indication that the REAL children of Israel are black people, that is why whites have intentionally changed the verse to read "hot as an oven" to further cover up the truth.
  • Moses on Lamentations 5:7 - 10 years ago
    Every sin in my family that is disturbing in my life, God destroy it in my life
  • OKAFOR AUSTIN on Lamentations 5 - 12 years ago
    One explanation i can give to this chapter is as follow: It talks about root powers or foundational problems. Most Christians are confronted with the foundational problems. The sins of their forefathers. Let me share this sad occurrence. In the area where i stayed in Nigeria, a family lived without a child for 15years. At the 15th year, they gave birth to a child. The child was celebrated. a big party was organized; and money and gifts was given to the family and child After the party armed robbers visited at night. They requested that the money be given; but the couples hesitated and the killed the new born baby.Out of frustration the mother of the child un-masked the robber only to discover it was his landlord. In this case that landlord has brought a curse upon his generation un-born. This is a foundation problem for children un-born;They may grow up to have no children even if they are Christians except they rise up to pray like the realities by confessing sins of their fathers and breaking the yoke


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