Sin separates us from God, It doesn't bring us to God.
Man in his natural state loves darkness.
Beware of anyone that teaches that sin is good!
Also Beware of the snare that God saves you by his Love and compromise his righteous Judgment.
"God so loved the world, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,
(( God didn't excuse our sin, It cost him dearly!
Christ was judged!! He wasn't let off the hook! He prayed 3 times to let this cup pass him!
If it was any other way, God didn't answer him.))
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Read and Study John 3:17-21. and John 16:7-14.
We've been baptized into a body of believers and led and sealed by one Spirit. And that's Christ.
Israel in the OT shows the weakness of man left alone and the absence of the indwelling Spirit of Christ. and it is a lesson for you and I.
Judges 2:8-13.
And Joshua, the son of Nun, the servant of the LORD, died, being an hundred and ten years old.
And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.
And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim:
And they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger.
And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
1 Kings 9:16 gives the answer; as to how they obtained the land; the king of Egypt conquered it and gave it as a present to his daughter; Solomon's wife. Verses 20 and 21 show how they were bondservants instead. In the case of the Gibeonites; Israel had to protect them because they didn't seek God first and made a covenant with them.
There may be other scriptures indicating specifics here; my point is that there were exceptions; even in the lineage of David leading to Christ (such as Ruth; Rahab and other descendants from Gentile origin.) There were rules as to how many generations had to pass before Temple worship; etc. but there was always a contingency of those who would follow the God of Israel (such as the multitude in the Exodus).
I would also say that God devoted destruction to the descendants of Nephilim (which were wiped out in the time of David with the last remaining one: Goliath and earlier his 4 brothers). This was a big reason for what seems like wholesale cruel destruction of everyone; namely they were not fully human. The nations which would cause their own children to be sacrificed to idols were also the recipients of God's wrath; such as the Amorites in Genesis 15:16. There was a set time for destruction when iniquity is at the full; and such was the case with Nineveh; but was granted a reprieve after repentance for a couple hundred years or so; eventually fulfilled as the book of Nahum explained.
In some ways as well; the Caananites served as an object lesson to Israel. ( 1 Samuel 4:3-5 and later verses show how the fear of the Lord came on the Caananites and they made sacrifice.) Whether they repented after being plagued by God; or healed of the ailments is unclear; but they at least knew what they had to do and that they were under God's wrath and displeasure.
The Caananites were under a curse in general since Genesis 9 (the details have been debated). Judges 2:21-23 gives a further clue; disobedience of Israel stopped it.
In my post I only listed what I know, not what I believe. My belief is that that person who appears to John in Rev 1 was Jesus, but there are some things that make have some doubts.
1. It it true that in verse 1 Jesus says that He sent an angel to John to reveal him the future. So where do we get to see that angel in Rev?
2. The description of that person resembles very much to the appearance of an angel discribed by Daniel.
3. I know what that person among the 7 candlestichs says to John. He speaks as if though He is Jesus Himself. But this often occurs in OT when angels speak to people as if there were God themselves.
Examples: a. Who spoke to Moses on mount Horeb from within the flame in the bushes? Although it seems it is God in verse 5, it is actually the angel of the Lord (verse 2).
b. To whom Moses was talking to on mount Sinai when he got the 10 commandments and all the other instructions? From chapter 19 onwards it seems that it is God Himself but in Acts 7:38 Stephen says to Jews that it was an angel, "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:"
c. In Judges 2:1-4, an angel appears to talk to Israeletes but he speaks as if he was God Himself. The same happens with Gideon (chapt. 6). So it seems in many cases in OT an angel sent by God talks as he is God Himself.
(Here I have to state that many believe that the angel of the Lord who often appears in OT is (a pre-incarnation) Jesus in the form of an angel)
So those things make me have some doubts about who is the person who speaks to John, Jesus or an angel?
Generation as described biblically: Please read = Genesis 7:1, Ecclesiastes 1:4, Lamentations 5:19, Daniel 4:3, Matthew 1,
In comparison to your example of Noah- Exodus 20:1-5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 2:14, Judges 2:10, 2Kings 10:30, 2Kings 15:12, Hebrews 3, Luke 1:50, Psalms 102:18, John 17,
Prophetic about Jesus & other generations- Proverbs 30:12,13,14, Isaiah 53:8, Matthew 11,
Hi Teresa. When we read about God "sold them" (as in Judges 2:14; Judges 3:8; Judges 4:2; etc.), the meaning is not that God wanted to trade Israel for money or goods. Rather, that God 'gave them over, or giving the control of them to another power which is not of God'. When God handed over Israel to anyone else, Israel lost the blessings & privileges of being God's children & became vassals of gentile nations. When Israel came to her senses and repented, God in His great mercy, received them back to Himself.
There is "no" salvation in water baptism. Think about the sinner who was on a cross next to Jesus, when he ask Jesus to remember him and Jesus said, today you will be with me in paradise. He did not get down from the cross and go get water baptized. Water baptism is a action taken by a born again believer who wants to let others know that he has excepted Jesus as His Lord and Savior and has repented of his sins. It's a confession that you are saved. That you are a new creation in Christ Jesus, that you died with Him, are buried with Him and raised in the newness of Life in Christ Jesus. Hallelujah!
1 Corinthians 1:17: For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
If water baptism was a requirement for salvation Christ would have sent Paul the apostle to baptize. However, Paul was not sent to water baptize but to preach the gospel of which water baptism is not an essential element.
Romans 1:16-17 (KJV): For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV): For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Works, including that of water baptism, do not save. We are saved by grace through FAITH in Jesus Christ.
Water baptism is an ordinance and an outward practice for the inward work done by Christ when we're saved by Grace. I also agree that when Jesus speaks of water in John 3 to Nicodemus; he's referring to physical birth...no water baptism as an ordinance.
Religion (catholicism being one) teach that it is Salvation but they add sacraments and other works to that process thus showing how they've frustrated the simple Grace of Jesus Christ.
I agree Homer, John 3:3-6, seems to indicate that Jesus' mention of 'water' is metaphorical of human birth. When Nicodemus was thinking that this new birth was an actual physical birth (v4), and when Jesus then (in v6) reiterates that what "is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit", show that 'water' must refer to physical birth & not a future 'water baptism'. The whole focus of this passage was to clear Nicodemus' mind that Jesus wasn't speaking of a second physical birth. Man has to be born into this world first & then born again of the Spirit to be saved.
And indeed, if water baptism is an essential part of salvation's work, then, as you mentioned, those who die suddenly, or who are incapable of being baptized, or by neglect of the evangelist, will then suffer complete rejection by God, even if they have called upon Him in faith. Water baptism is an important first step for the new believer, but never to be part of salvation by faith, or else, salvation is no longer of faith.
I am my Beloveds__My Beloved is Mine - In Reply on Judges 2 - 2 years ago
Jesus tells us in John 3, how to be saved. We must be born again; and given the Holy Spirit.
Water baptism is not mandatory. It is an act of obedience, worship, a deep desire to leave a sinful past and feel clean. Some people need that and want it.
It is solely Jesus who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. Jesus knows what we need.
It is not anyone else's business to say, do it this way or else you're not saved properly.
1 Peter
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Jesus shed his blood on the Cross for all human beings that would receive Him.
My testimony is like Paul's. I wasn't looking for Jesus. He came to me in my home. I saw Him. I heard 2 Timothy 3:5 like thunder. I was shown the death penalty for practicing astrology. I saw hell, I saw an invisible outstretched Hand, and I took it. All I knew was that I deserved death.
I woke up the next day, conscious of Someone telling me what to do. I cleaned house of anything He said that was occult. Two days later, I had a bonfire in my trash can. Acts 19:19. The Holy Spirit has never left me. He tells me daily about Jesus, what scriptures mean. It's been 36 years of trust, love, praise and worship for my Father and my Lord Jesus. His blood has saved my life many times. Jesus wrote my name in the book of Life before I even knew of it.
God does things how He chooses to bring us into the Kingdom. He gave me the Holy Spirit who has taught me everything I know. I don't have a library of books. Just a Strongs. Life is sweet. People come to God the easiest way possible. Softly or Rough like me. I know how much Paul loved his life despite the bad parts. It's the Blessed Hope of the moment we lay eyes on Jesus again. Tell people of the Love, not legalism. Love put Him on the Cross to shed His blood to give us His Life.
Verse 23-Jehovah God left the Israelites to their own downfall. They chose to go after other gods so he let them. God does not force us to serve him but he will also not shield us from the consequences of choosing to serve other gods.
I believe that your message is incorrect, and it conflicts with God's true message.
God can have mercy on whomever he pleases.
Romans 9:18
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth."
The example that you stated of Jesus forgiving the thief on the cross was "a special act of mercy" for the thief, NOT a message to "all mankind" to go ahead and keep sinning and just say that you believe in Christ and you will be saved. That message of just believing is a FALSE MESSAGE! Even the devil and his demons believe, are they going to heaven too?
We must not only believe, we must be baptized in water, receive the Holy Spirit, also REPENT, and lead a good christian life following the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jesus/God's message is plain for all to see. We can't just ignore what Jesus instructs us to do. There is so much scripture of Jesus telling us what we need to do, to enter into the kingdom.
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Revelation 22:12-14
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Do you believe the above scripture? If you believe the above scripture, and if you love Jesus you will follow HIS advice! If you turn your back on the above scripture, Jesus has already said that he will be our JUDGE, and he will judge us according to HIS WORD!
GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} baptized to be saved? - In Reply on Judges 2 - 2 years ago
Precious friend, Landon. Water baptism to be saved? Yes, for Israel, to be "inducted into the priesthood," and for "remission of sin," However:
Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From "Things That DIFFER!":
No, for the Body Of CHRIST! = No "works" to be saved, as it is by "GRACE Through faith" Ephesians 2:8-9 There is ONLY 'ONE' Baptism, Today, Under God's PURE GRACE!:
Thanks for sharing the scripture confirming water baptism. Yes, I also believe we must be Born of Water and Spirit to enter the kingdom of God. So baptism with water and receiving the Holy Spirit will be the requirement - per Jesus Christ! This scripture is so powerful, Jesus stating "EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND SPIRIT"
John 3:5
"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
To argue differently, is to argue directly with Jesus.
All...what we have to understand it's not by our will but by HIS will alone that anything happens! 1corinthians 3:7 We don't save anyone, we don't choose ourselves to be saved it's all HIS will! Because HE loved you enough to allow you to see HIS glory and wake up one day!! THAT'S real facts...now you spread that seed of knowledge you have been given and then if He sees fit HE will give increase to those that hears HIS WORD!!(YAHUSHUA)
Bill sometimes those words meaning Lord or King is associated with satanism.
Baal meant Lord and was so associated with satanism the Lord said not to call him that anymore.
Judges 2:13 And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
Judges 8:33 And it came to pass, as soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god.
Jeremiah 19:5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind: (CHILD SACRIFICES)
Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
1 Kings 11:5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.
2 Kings 23:13 And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination of the children of Ammon, did the king defile.
What is this "original Hebrew" stuff? Do you want to call the God of Heaven a name associated with Devils?
Mark 16:15 KJV says "... Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.". That is an order from God and even though it's hard to talk to people right now, we have electronics, we can still spread the gospel. We don't know what will happen or when so we need to tell people about God's word and what he did for all ( John 3:16) it woul be our fault if we knew someone was not saved and we didn't do anything about it and they go to hell to spend eternity.
Adams, Judg 2:18 speaks of people appointed by God to rule over His people & to guide them in His Ways. They were a pre-cursor to the appointment of the kings, of whom Saul was the first. This Scripture doesn't tell us about those called to be evangelists. We are all tasked with the ministry of the Gospel to the unsaved, whether one to one, or en masse. So much so as we see the Day of the Lord coming.
"Was there a failure on the part of the last generation that KNEW God and His deeds in handing over the baton properly to the next generation?" I think the answer to that could be Yes and No. There is certainly a wicked generation that rebels in a rage and fury away from the good and the holy way of Jesus, so they can fornicate and live lawlessly and NO ONE tell them what to do. But we are signs!
"And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods.." People a responsible for their own ways and choices! Many good Christians have parents or brothers and sisters or children who despise and reject the LORD JESUS CHRIST so they can give themselves over to fornication and lawlessness and fully let Satan into their hearts! Its not the Christian's fault!
And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.. Was there a failure on the part of the last generation that knew God and His deeds in handing over the baton properly to the next generation? Let us heed the word of God in Deuteronomy 6;6-9
Man in his natural state loves darkness.
Beware of anyone that teaches that sin is good!
Also Beware of the snare that God saves you by his Love and compromise his righteous Judgment.
"God so loved the world, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,
(( God didn't excuse our sin, It cost him dearly!
Christ was judged!! He wasn't let off the hook! He prayed 3 times to let this cup pass him!
If it was any other way, God didn't answer him.))
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Read and Study John 3:17-21. and John 16:7-14.
We've been baptized into a body of believers and led and sealed by one Spirit. And that's Christ.
Israel in the OT shows the weakness of man left alone and the absence of the indwelling Spirit of Christ. and it is a lesson for you and I.
Judges 2:8-13.
And Joshua, the son of Nun, the servant of the LORD, died, being an hundred and ten years old.
And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.
And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim:
And they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger.
And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
That's why Jeremiah 31:31-34 is Prophesied.
God bless.
There may be other scriptures indicating specifics here; my point is that there were exceptions; even in the lineage of David leading to Christ (such as Ruth; Rahab and other descendants from Gentile origin.) There were rules as to how many generations had to pass before Temple worship; etc. but there was always a contingency of those who would follow the God of Israel (such as the multitude in the Exodus).
I would also say that God devoted destruction to the descendants of Nephilim (which were wiped out in the time of David with the last remaining one: Goliath and earlier his 4 brothers). This was a big reason for what seems like wholesale cruel destruction of everyone; namely they were not fully human. The nations which would cause their own children to be sacrificed to idols were also the recipients of God's wrath; such as the Amorites in Genesis 15:16. There was a set time for destruction when iniquity is at the full; and such was the case with Nineveh; but was granted a reprieve after repentance for a couple hundred years or so; eventually fulfilled as the book of Nahum explained.
In some ways as well; the Caananites served as an object lesson to Israel. ( 1 Samuel 4:3-5 and later verses show how the fear of the Lord came on the Caananites and they made sacrifice.) Whether they repented after being plagued by God; or healed of the ailments is unclear; but they at least knew what they had to do and that they were under God's wrath and displeasure.
The Caananites were under a curse in general since Genesis 9 (the details have been debated). Judges 2:21-23 gives a further clue; disobedience of Israel stopped it.
In my post I only listed what I know, not what I believe. My belief is that that person who appears to John in Rev 1 was Jesus, but there are some things that make have some doubts.
1. It it true that in verse 1 Jesus says that He sent an angel to John to reveal him the future. So where do we get to see that angel in Rev?
2. The description of that person resembles very much to the appearance of an angel discribed by Daniel.
3. I know what that person among the 7 candlestichs says to John. He speaks as if though He is Jesus Himself. But this often occurs in OT when angels speak to people as if there were God themselves.
Examples: a. Who spoke to Moses on mount Horeb from within the flame in the bushes? Although it seems it is God in verse 5, it is actually the angel of the Lord (verse 2).
b. To whom Moses was talking to on mount Sinai when he got the 10 commandments and all the other instructions? From chapter 19 onwards it seems that it is God Himself but in Acts 7:38 Stephen says to Jews that it was an angel, "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:"
c. In Judges 2:1-4, an angel appears to talk to Israeletes but he speaks as if he was God Himself. The same happens with Gideon (chapt. 6). So it seems in many cases in OT an angel sent by God talks as he is God Himself.
(Here I have to state that many believe that the angel of the Lord who often appears in OT is (a pre-incarnation) Jesus in the form of an angel)
So those things make me have some doubts about who is the person who speaks to John, Jesus or an angel?
GBU
In comparison to your example of Noah- Exodus 20:1-5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 2:14, Judges 2:10, 2Kings 10:30, 2Kings 15:12, Hebrews 3, Luke 1:50, Psalms 102:18, John 17,
Prophetic about Jesus & other generations- Proverbs 30:12,13,14, Isaiah 53:8, Matthew 11,
Psalms 12:6-7, Psalms 14,
Hopefully these are helpful
If water baptism was a requirement for salvation Christ would have sent Paul the apostle to baptize. However, Paul was not sent to water baptize but to preach the gospel of which water baptism is not an essential element.
Romans 1:16-17 (KJV): For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV): For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Works, including that of water baptism, do not save. We are saved by grace through FAITH in Jesus Christ.
Water baptism is an ordinance and an outward practice for the inward work done by Christ when we're saved by Grace. I also agree that when Jesus speaks of water in John 3 to Nicodemus; he's referring to physical birth...no water baptism as an ordinance.
Religion (catholicism being one) teach that it is Salvation but they add sacraments and other works to that process thus showing how they've frustrated the simple Grace of Jesus Christ.
And indeed, if water baptism is an essential part of salvation's work, then, as you mentioned, those who die suddenly, or who are incapable of being baptized, or by neglect of the evangelist, will then suffer complete rejection by God, even if they have called upon Him in faith. Water baptism is an important first step for the new believer, but never to be part of salvation by faith, or else, salvation is no longer of faith.
If not, how about those who are not baptized who die by disaster without who believe, but never got baptized??
Water baptism is not mandatory. It is an act of obedience, worship, a deep desire to leave a sinful past and feel clean. Some people need that and want it.
It is solely Jesus who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. Jesus knows what we need.
It is not anyone else's business to say, do it this way or else you're not saved properly.
1 Peter
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Jesus shed his blood on the Cross for all human beings that would receive Him.
My testimony is like Paul's. I wasn't looking for Jesus. He came to me in my home. I saw Him. I heard 2 Timothy 3:5 like thunder. I was shown the death penalty for practicing astrology. I saw hell, I saw an invisible outstretched Hand, and I took it. All I knew was that I deserved death.
I woke up the next day, conscious of Someone telling me what to do. I cleaned house of anything He said that was occult. Two days later, I had a bonfire in my trash can. Acts 19:19. The Holy Spirit has never left me. He tells me daily about Jesus, what scriptures mean. It's been 36 years of trust, love, praise and worship for my Father and my Lord Jesus. His blood has saved my life many times. Jesus wrote my name in the book of Life before I even knew of it.
God does things how He chooses to bring us into the Kingdom. He gave me the Holy Spirit who has taught me everything I know. I don't have a library of books. Just a Strongs. Life is sweet. People come to God the easiest way possible. Softly or Rough like me. I know how much Paul loved his life despite the bad parts. It's the Blessed Hope of the moment we lay eyes on Jesus again. Tell people of the Love, not legalism. Love put Him on the Cross to shed His blood to give us His Life.
without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin. heb 9-22
1st peter 3-21 read please
blood is needed for redemption of sin not water
stop the heresy on this site please.ephesians
1-7 in him we have redemption through his blood
the forgiveness of sins.
I believe that your message is incorrect, and it conflicts with God's true message.
God can have mercy on whomever he pleases.
Romans 9:18
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth."
The example that you stated of Jesus forgiving the thief on the cross was "a special act of mercy" for the thief, NOT a message to "all mankind" to go ahead and keep sinning and just say that you believe in Christ and you will be saved. That message of just believing is a FALSE MESSAGE! Even the devil and his demons believe, are they going to heaven too?
We must not only believe, we must be baptized in water, receive the Holy Spirit, also REPENT, and lead a good christian life following the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jesus/God's message is plain for all to see. We can't just ignore what Jesus instructs us to do. There is so much scripture of Jesus telling us what we need to do, to enter into the kingdom.
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Revelation 22:12-14
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Do you believe the above scripture? If you believe the above scripture, and if you love Jesus you will follow HIS advice! If you turn your back on the above scripture, Jesus has already said that he will be our JUDGE, and he will judge us according to HIS WORD!
God Bless.
Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From "Things That DIFFER!":
No, for the Body Of CHRIST! = No "works" to be saved, as it is by "GRACE Through faith" Ephesians 2:8-9 There is ONLY 'ONE' Baptism, Today, Under God's PURE GRACE!:
ONE 'Spiritual' Baptism to be saved? Yes!:
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Christ promised the thief on the cross LIFE when the kingdom of God was made available by the death of Christ.
If you have to be water baptisted, then the thief will never be able receive Christ's promise.
Christ word's can not be broken; therefore it's water baptism that does't stand.
John baptised with water, God baptises with SPIRIT.
Thanks for sharing the scripture confirming water baptism. Yes, I also believe we must be Born of Water and Spirit to enter the kingdom of God. So baptism with water and receiving the Holy Spirit will be the requirement - per Jesus Christ! This scripture is so powerful, Jesus stating "EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND SPIRIT"
John 3:5
"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
To argue differently, is to argue directly with Jesus.
God Bless.
Mark 16:16
1 Peter 3:21
Acts 2:38
Acts 4:12
Acts 19:1-6
Acts 10:44-48
John 3:1-6
1 Corinthians 14:2,22,39
Acts 2:4
Acts 5:32
Acts 1:8
John 21:15
Jesus loves us! Landon
Baal meant Lord and was so associated with satanism the Lord said not to call him that anymore.
Judges 2:13 And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
Judges 8:33 And it came to pass, as soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god.
Jeremiah 19:5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind: (CHILD SACRIFICES)
Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
1 Kings 11:5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.
2 Kings 23:13 And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination of the children of Ammon, did the king defile.
What is this "original Hebrew" stuff? Do you want to call the God of Heaven a name associated with Devils?