Discuss Judges 16

  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Moral dilemmas: Knowing the difference between right and wrong.

    The scriptures have situations where God accomplishes His purposes despite the behaviors of His messengers or those fulfilling His will. We see Sampson; and his attraction to Philistine women which eventually degraded to being involved with Delilah; a prostitute that brought him shame and ruin ( Judges 16). God eventually used this to allow Sampson to be humbled through blindness then deliberately end his life and thus defeat more Philistines than he did all his life ( Judges 16:29).

    We see Jonah and his deliberate disobedience in going to Tarshish rather than Nineveh. God somehow used his message to not only convince repentance from the top leadership to the common people in Nineveh; but also for those he was travelling with on the ship after they were forced to toss Jonah into the sea to save themselves from shipwreck.

    Even the story of Esther is questionable from what some interpret happened in a Harem type situation; she also took over as wife of the king which would be considered adultery. It could still be considered as a second wife since divorce is NEVER mentioned in the Bible except Joseph's consideration of it with Mary. It was discussed as an action that could be taken in Deut. 24 but no saints of God or anyone else are mentioned even among pagans that did such a thing. Food for thought....

    God would wink at certain things in the past but now of course we are at a higher standard under Christ. ( Acts 17:30). No doubt rewards were lost for those who weren't dealt with in this life if repentance didn't occur; we don't see specific chastising mentioning the particular sins of Sampson (perhaps implied in his death); and for Jonah there seems to be no indication that he ever had the love for the Ninevites at the end of the story; we only see God's rebuke for him feeling sorry for a plant instead.

    In upcoming posts we will consider situations where right and wrong appear nebulous.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    OSAS: Another character in the "hall of fame" of saints from Hebrews 11.

    Sampson. Hebrews 11:32 mentions Sampson in passing but doesn't elaborate on the subject.

    Judges 13 gets into the beginning of the story of Manoah and his wife who had an angelic visitation from God announcing the birth of Sampson and the prophesied deliverance from the Philistines that his life would enable. Interestingly the angel appeared both times to the woman and it seemed this unnamed wife had more sense than her husband who was convinced they would die after such a visitation. Perhaps Sampson's upbringing in such a household led to some of his irrational behaviors as he grew up.

    Judges 16 shows where Sampson ended up with Delilah; who ultimately sapped his strength to the point where he was blinded and no longer able to resist his enemies who were using her against him. He had lost his wife according to Judges 14:3 after they killed her following his vengeance in killing 30 Philistines. This tragedy could have been avoided if he had married within his people. He would continue to follow his affections; yet somehow God saw that he had genuine faith. This is perhaps best illustrated when he deliberately gave up his life in knocking down the pillars of Dagon's temple in Judges 16:29; and kills more Philistines than he did his entire life previously.

    How we end life clearly is important; if the rest of our life is screwed up but we end it well then we can enter into heaven; the other extreme exists for those who turn away at the last minute; sadly a friend of mine said that was the case with his mother after being in a home where believers surrounded her the last few months of her life she turned away from the faith.

    The examples in the last few posts show how God knows the heart; we can never be sure someone can't turn at the last minute but certainly shouldn't count on it. Matthew 7:20 shows us how in time we can see those who are truly saved by GOOD FRUIT.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 86 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 86. Here; after a long succession of Psalms attributed to others; we once again find a Psalm of David. Perhaps the reader can do further investigation to determine the approximate time in David's life when this was written.

    We see in the inception of the Psalm in the first 4 verses characteristics of those which are of a "broken and contrite" spirit as Psalm 51 also describes. There is a "poor and needy" attitude (verse 2) and an attitude of submission as a servant (see verses 2 and 4). Finally; we see the characteristic of mercy in verse 3 as there apparently is a daily petition of crying to God.

    The concept of trust in verse 2 is something that should be pondered more frequently as our attitude there affects how confident we are to God being faithful to meet our needs as well as working all things to the good for those who love Him (see Romans 8:28).

    These characteristics allow us to converse and plead with God to attend to our requests (verse 6) and to answer in the day of trouble (verse 7). This is contrasted with such verses as Micah 3:4 and others which show the Lord will not hear the cry of the wicked in the day of their calamity because they are trying to avoid the consequences of their sins and sadly are too late for His saving Grace. Therefore; we must heed to not blowing God off; thinking that His patience will endure until we decide we are ready to "accept" Him. Salvation involves a relationship on HIS TERMS and according to His sovereign will and plans; of which we only can see a glimpse. These stipulations also are predicated on worshipping the true God (verse 8) and not the idols that other nations extol at their own peril ( Judges 16:29). In that story Sampson was shown in the end to know the Lord but reminds us of 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 of those who suffer loss of reward due to sinful living. The wicked there; nonetheless died in the midst of idol worship which should be a strong warning against any false religions today.
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Judges 16:9

    "And she(Dililah) made him(Samson) sleep upon her knees; and she called for a man, and she caused him to shave off the seven locks of his head; and she began to afflict him, and his strength went from him"

    The Hair represents Devotion to God. If the devil manages to cut our devotion to God off, then we loose our strength and we become infront of him weak like all the other people. We should never play games with satan/sin like Samson did with Delilah, he will eventually find the way to beat and enslave us. Matthew 26:41, "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Wisdom: Yes,

    The Bible gives us examples to help direct us, I believe. 1Samuel 18:10,11, 1 Samuel 19:7,9,10, 1Samuel 27:1,2, if someone is physically harming you, dangerous it's wisdom to get away. David forgave, but had to wisely stay away from Saul. Please read all of 1Samuel to know the more complete story.

    Judges 16:4-21, Samson keep forgiving it appears & forgetting. Didn't seem wise. Delilah kept betraying Samson.

    Many more stories of fleeing evil, Matthew 10:23, Mark 13:14, 1Timothy 6:3-12, all those & these, flee, 1Corinthian 6:18,

    But don't fear, James 4:7,

    Vengeance is GOD's

    Romans 12:17-21,

    Hopefully these are helpful to your situation
  • Yvonne dennis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Judges 16:29-30 1samuel31:4-5
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 90 - 1 year ago
    Hello Gwynette. There are examples in the Bible of those who suicided. One is in 1 Samuel 31:4, when King Saul wanted his armour-bearer to kill him as he was wounded in the battle. He refused, so Saul "fell upon his own sword" & his armour-bearer seeing this & the implications that would have upon him, also did likewise. There is also Samson ( Judges 16:26-30) who with his great strength from the Lord, pulled down the pillars of the building that he was prisoner in, thus killing himself & many Philistines that were gathered there. And we know about Judas Iscariot as well ( Matthew 27:3-5) who hanged himself after he realized his sin in betraying Jesus.

    So even though we have instances of suicide, I don't believe the Bible ever talks specifically about it as being sin. Why some believe that suicide is sin, is because by definition, it is self-murder & murder in any form is sin. I know that one who contemplates suicide does so under very trying mental, emotional & physical conditions - a good friend of mine having taken his own life because of severe end-stage multiple sclerosis. I tried my best to encourage him & give him hope, but his continual body pain & loss of movement was too much & made existence meaningless for him. Every avenue should be resorted to so that such a desperate person may receive help & counsel & most cities have a Lifeline phone number to assist.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Judges 16:4-31, you may be able to do an estimated number based on verse 31, & ealier chapters of when he began to Judge Israel. Might have started in Judges 14,
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Florence. We're not told anymore about Delilah in Judges chapter 16. After she found out the secret to Samson's strength, hence him being blinded & put in prison, we don't know what she did or even if she went to visit him in prison. But we do know that when the Philistines gathered for a huge party in honour of their god, that a large company of people were in the main hall as well as partying on the rooftop ( Judges 16:27). I wonder whether Delilah was amongst the party-goers as she played such an important part in Samson's downfall? So we can't say for sure, but she may have died with Samson & the thousands of others when Samson in his last act of strength, brought the roof down on them.
  • Bro dan - 2 years ago
    Hi Brother S Spenser,

    Sorry, I couldn't answer your previous post/response - as the previous thread regarding this topic of discussion was closed.

    I do agree with you, and also Jesse, I believe the scripture below relates to the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus.The scripture you attached also clarifies it in my understanding even more.

    Luke 17:34

    "I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left."

    Luke 17:35

    "Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

    As you may know over the years, some have alluded to possible homosexual evidence to this scripture above. GiGi weighed in previously, stating that it was not uncommon for people to share beds, as they were a short commodity during the time period. This makes sense.

    To expand, I was curious about this scripture in Luke, and got sidetracked a bit, and in I my research, I found scripture in the OT specifically regarding the usage of the word "grind" or "grinding" relating to sex. The word seemed to be a slang word see related scripture.

    Job 31:10

    Judges 16:21

    Lamentations 5:13

    In researching this further, I do believe the the word grinding was a valid slang word for sex during those days. I'm still not sure if Luke was really referring to this in his scripture. I also compared it to the alternate scripture in Matthew, where Matthew states" grinding at the mill" whereas Luke did not add the "mill" in his composition.

    Matthew 24:41

    "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

    I'm leaning toward - there may be no sexual undercurrent in this scripture as some people may think.

    God Bless
  • Mountain Preacher on Judges 16:17 - 2 years ago
    Well ask ourselves why didn't Samson simply get away from Deliah. The same reason that you and I don't forsake the sin that tempts us the most. We think that we are stronger than the sin that lures US away from God. Thus we lose our strength with God. Repentance and walking in the Spirit is the only way to overcome it . .
  • David on Judges 16 - 2 years ago
    The other point that can be made here is something many parents wonder about. Samson's asked the Lord for directions on how to raise their son. They were given the instructions and giving them the benefit of the doubt they did diligently.

    However, Samson strayed and we know the story and the final outcome. My point is although the parents and family are God fearing, the child can, and many do, stray away from faith.

    On the other side of the coin- parents and families may be ungodly and don't know God; however, the child and many do, find faith and strength in the Lord.

    What do we do fathers, mothers? We trust in the Lord and all of His promises. We read, pray, and trust in the Lord God Almighty. It's not over till death.

    Thank you for your promises and for your Word.
  • Samson and Delilah - In Reply on Judges 16:9 - 3 years ago
    God created you for a higher purpose

    In the biblical book of Judges (chapters 13-16) we meet Manoah and his wife, a couple who were unable to have children until God intervened in their situation. More than that, God placed a special calling on their soon-to-be-born son, Samson, even before he had been knit together in his mother's womb.

    Samson was handpicked by God to liberate God's people. Samson grew up knowing God's will for his life. His parents made sure he heard the story of how he had been chosen by God before he was born. His marching orders were made clear by the angel of the LORD who had visited his parents. Moreover, God gave him supernatural strength, so Samson had everything he needed to deliver God's people, Israel, from the oppressive hands of the Philistines (see Judges 13:5).

    God chose you, and gave you a purpose before you were even born. When God created heaven and earth, he knew that one day you would find yourself right where you are at this moment. You have been created in the image of God, and you were made for a purpose. One of the most important things you can do, then, is to seek God's guidance concerning what your main mission should be, and how you can best fulfill it.
  • Fred - In Reply on Judges 16:9 - 3 years ago
    Sampson loved Delila, Delila loved silver, when we love someone a person tends to trust that inividual were trust seems barren, after all aren't we all sent to locate that which has been lost, nomatter how seemingly futile.
  • Bridget Hdll on Judges 16:9 - 3 years ago
    Can you explain in details about the Samson Delilah DELILAH
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 3 years ago
    Donna, there are examples in the Bible of those who suicided. One is in 1 Samuel 31:4, when King Saul wanted his armour-bearer to kill him as he was wounded in the battle. He refused, so Saul "fell upon his own sword" & his armour-bearer seeing this & the implications that would have upon him, also did likewise. There is also Samson ( Judges 16:26-30) who with his great strength from the Lord, pulled down the pillars of the building that he was prisoner in, thus killing himself & many Philistines that were gathered there. And then we have Judas Iscariot ( Matthew 27:3-5) who hanged himself after he realized his sin in betraying Jesus.

    So even though we have instances of suicide, I don't believe the Bible ever talks specifically about it as being sin. Why we say that suicide is sin, is because by definition, it is self-murder & wilful murder in any form is sin. I know that one who contemplates suicide does so under very trying mental, emotional & physical conditions - a good friend of mine having taken his own life because of severe multiple sclerosis. I tried my best to encourage him & give him hope, but the pain & loss of movement was too much & made existence meaningless. Every avenue should be resorted to so that such a desperate person may receive help & counsel & most cities have a Lifeline phone number to assist.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Isaiah 13:10 - 3 years ago
    Did Samson commit suicide?

    Judges 16:28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.

    Judges 16:29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.

    Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

    Hebrews Chapter 11:30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.

    31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

    32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets:

    33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

    Samson killed himself along with the Philistines and he is in the Hebrews faith chapter.
  • Helen Ewuoso on Judges 16 - 5 years ago
    The bible tells us that friendship with the world is enmity with God. We are told to be careful of bad company for it corrupts our character. Samson was gifted and no doubts he had a relationship with God. However Samson was a careless man. He should have been friends with Delilah, a seductress, promiscuous and loose woman. Especially when he knew that she was his weakness. Samson was foolish!!!
  • Sarah on Judges 16 - 5 years ago
    Sampson's true downfall was simply failing to give glory to God. He made his hair his strength instead of God. He could've told Delilah his strength was given by God. That would have been the absolute truth and he knew that. But under pressure, he momentarily lost sight. Not unlike Moses striking the rock and stating he would cause water to flow instead of saying God would cause water to flow.
  • S on Judges 16 - 5 years ago
    Samson's weakness is Delia probably because she's beautiful. Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit there of, and did eat, and gave also to her husband with her;
    Jonah 2:8 They that observe lying vainites forsake their own Mercy.
  • BSP on Judges 16 - 5 years ago
    Verse 16~Delilah nagged Samson to death so to speak. Samson unwisely gave into this pressure and because of that he lost his God-given strength.
  • J R Davis on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    When you come right down to it, Samson PUSHED! We need to Push, push in prayer, fasting, loving, stewardship, witnessing, church attendance, fight that devil with all we got, just PUSH!
  • Billgremm@gmail.com on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    Day 70 Bible in a Year Reading. It is as if Samson, though very flawed, used himself as an instrument of retribution even to his death. He allowed God to give him great strength and took care of his body and his desires, but he did not allow God to always penetrate his heart. Yet, he is listed in Hebrews as a man of faith. What could have been if he had totally consecrated himself to God?
  • Lindy on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    Samson in the NT is one listed in the heroes of the faith. It demonstrates that God uses people who have flaws to further the kingdom of God. His story is so remarkable! It shows that God uses us in ways we cannot comprehend! Never give up on God or yourself.
  • Anne on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    God raised up Samuel to be a deliver of the Israelites from the Philistines but Samson allowed himself to be blinded by ungodly pleasures. However, Samson would not allow any false god to be given credit for this situation, so he called upon the Lord God to strengthen him and show forth his almighty power and he destroyed over three thousand Philistines, even in his death. To God be the Glory.
  • Peter A. Okebukola on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    God is a God of mercy and compassion. Samson erred and later regretted and God restored his strength. We should trust God's mercy and compassion because He is a loving God. However, we should not take His love for granted. We should strive to be at the centre of His will always.
  • Irene123 on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    Lu2677 - I like your comment Samson
  • Lu2677 on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    I don't believe Sampson committed suicide.He prayed to God for strength to avenge the loss of his eyes against the Phillistines.V.28.He was tied to two pillars, God gave him the strength . He did not say "let me die with the Phillistines" because he had a deranged mind or lack of hope.It was an act of war against them.He avenged himself the only way he could. Suicide is a lack of trust in God.
  • Judy on Judges 16 - 6 years ago
    I think Samson was suicidal. Living on the edge kind of lifestyle. Doesn't show a lot stability. Yet in the end God through Samson killed a great number of Philistines. Go figure.
  • Harold Cranford on Judges 16 - 7 years ago
    In Chapter 16 there appears more than one lesson to be learned; mainly that one should question WHY - for what reason, the nagging persists! Also, just to name one more, when God renewed Samson's strength it tells me 'ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE," that God is THE forgiving God - praise His Holy Name!!!



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