For our friends during their recovery we didn't depend on our own ability. We humbled ourselves and prayed and asked for prayer. We didn't demand anything or perform anything. WE PRAYED.
Now concerning Satan, There's several scripture that I keep in Mind.
Here's just a few.
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN YOU, THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.
James 4:6-7. But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST THE DEVIL, and he will flee from you.
And
Romans 8:28-39.
Ephesians 6:11-18.
I don't quarrel with Satan if I do I relieved myself of my Armor.
I don't mimic what Jesus did When he said
Matthew 4:10. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Jude 1:8-10. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jude 1:16-20. These are murmurers, complainers, WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN lusts; AND THEIR MOUTH SPEAKETH GREAT SWELLING WORDS, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
THESE BE THEY WHO SEPARATE THEMSELVES, SENSUAL, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:3-4. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Here's is one of the most important verses in scripture. And one of the most misunderstood!
Because people think this is something you do, or you just say.
But it's something that you have no control of!! John is telling us it has already been done by the Holyspirit!
Notice the last four words doesn't say you SHOULD LOVE your brother also. IT SAYS YOU DO! OR IT'S DONE. THIS IS PERFORMED BY THE HOLYSPIRIT. ITS AGAPE.
1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO.
1 John 3:10. IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST, AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, NEITHER HE THAT LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER.
If this Love don't exist between two then maybe you're not brothers. Which implies you have separate Fathers.
Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots
Jude 1:18-19. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
1 John 2:19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US.
Beware of woman and men who say they're Christian but join themselves with EVERYONE how is against truth.
John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
OASEAS IS A GOOD NAME FOR YOU, on an island to yourself with a strange Bible. These words help me from jumping out the window like a banker.
"What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."
Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:( Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. ( Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas ( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
"7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."
Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.
( Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Oseas, thanks for sharing your scripture and your interpretation of it. Yes, I read the scripture and believe it, but it does not say Eve had sex with satan. It is absolutely not there and not even close in my opinion.
It appears your primary source from which you hinge your theory is Jude 1:6-7. I encourage you to search 'What is the strange flesh in Jude 1:7?' on GotQuestions website. They did a thorough breakdown of this which I agree with.
I think the strange flesh in verse 7 is the unnatural homosexual behavior that took place within Sodom and Gomorrah, not relations with angels. Of course there was a visit from 2 angels there that the men wanted to have relations with, but they didn't know they were angels. Genesis 6:2-4. HEBREWS 13:2.
Secondly, the example of Jude 1:4-7 points out that God will punish those who disobey and deviate from God's plan for them.
Third, yes, the Bible has metaphors. Example: John 6:56. Eat flesh and drink blood. Have you literally given into cannibalism and eaten Jesus? And is that what it means? No, it's a metaphor. The bread symbolized it. Isaiah 64:8 - are you literally clay? Ezekiel 34:31 - are we a flock of sheep? Here's a simile: Matthew 10:16. 'as' sheep, 'as' serpents, 'as' wolves, which explains it's symbolic. So, when Jesus or God called humans satan were they actually satan or acting like satan? Jesus called Peter satan: Matthew 4:1. So, does that mean Peter was acting like satan or WAS satan? If he literally was satan why then did Jesus forgive him? Peter said he loved Jesus 3 times. Does satan love Jesus?
The other 2 verses you posted seem to serve confirmation bias for your theory, as they are general and are only used to reinforce the original misinterpretation.
There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7:
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day).
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.
John the Apostle brings us a deep revelation: John 3:v.10-12
10 In this the children of GOD are manifest,and the children of the DEVIL:whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of GOD,neither he that loveth not his brother.
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning,that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain,who was of that wicked one(WHO WAS OF THE DEVIL, called SATAN),and slew his brother.And wherefore slew he him?Because his own works were evil,and his brother's righteous.
And JESUS said to the Jews: John 8:44-45
41 Ye do the deeds of your FATHER.Then said they to JESUS,We be not born of fornication;we have one Father,even GOD.
42 Jesus said unto them,If GOD were your FATHER,ye would love me:for I proceeded forth and came from GOD;neither came I of myself,but He sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech?even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL,and the lusts of your FATHER ye will do.He was a murderer from the beginning,and abode not in the truth,because there is no truth in him.When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar, and the father of it. Mat.23:33- Ye serpents,ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Gen.1:2-This Scriptures were revealed to Moses around 2.500 years after Adam, beteween 2nd and 3rd Day.
Genesis 1:v.2 And the earth was without form,...
See, GOD was not speaking of the geometric form of the Planet Earth to Moses, which He "hangeth upon nothing"- Job 26:v.7-, no, absolutely, it because the geometric form of the Planet Earth around 6.000 years ago was the same it is today, of course. NOTE: To say the Planet Earth was without geometric form based in Genesis 1:v. 2 is ridiculous.
By the way, GOD had planted a wonderful Garden in Eden were a multitude was ruled by a powerful Cherub- Ezekiel 28:v.13-15 and Isaiah 14:v.12-12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!...
After the rebellion, the inhabitants of Eden, ruler by the fallen Cherub, were transformed into dust, dust of the earth, except the spirit, evidently ( Jude 1:v.6), and the earth did get consequently formless and empty, spiritually, everything was without form but not physically.
Please, re-study your LITERAL conceptions, many of them ridiculous, and cause a lot of mochery. The letter kills.
To the only Wise GOD our Saviour, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis was revealed to Moses after 2.500 years after Adam or around 1.500 years BC,and around 3.000 years after the rebellion in Eden, beginning by the ruler of Eden, a Cherub.
Genesis 1:v.1- 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Comments: In JESUS, GOD the Father created the heavens(FOUR HEAVENS) and the earth. (earth here has nothing to do with the Planet Earth, there is a great MYSTERY hidden by the Spirit of GOD, the common man will never understand it.)
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Comments: Actually, if the Bible was speaking of the Planet Earth, it would never be written without form, of course, but
the earth that GOD revealed to Moses IT REALLY had not any FORM, it was void, yeah, was void of the Spirit of GOD, the Word, the Word is GOD; SO, darkness was upon the face of the deep(infested of a multitude of rebels), but the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. GOD always was present here( Isaiah 40:v.21-23.Check it out)
3 And God said, Let there be light:and there was light.4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Comments: What was the intention of GOD in this moment?In His Omniscience and Omnipotence He would go to establish two Alliances with the inhabitants of the Earth through His light.(Please, read 1Thes.5:v.4to8)
5 And God called the light Day,and the darkness he called Night.And the EVENING and the MORNING were the first Day.
NOTE:
After the rebellion in Eden( Jude 1:v.6),GOD planned to restore all things in six days, and in His WISDOM started to work in His plan around 500 years after the rebellion in Eden( Genesis 6:1to5; Jude 1:v.6),it was already EVENING.
Genesis 5 describes a generation of GOD's seed according His plan.Did not he make one?Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one?That he might seek a godly seed. Mal.2:15
Amen Jesse, I suppose that's why the scripture says you know them by their fruit.
It seems no matter where you go you run into some that seems to be be well versed in scripture but fruitless! and seems to separate themselves or worldly and sensual.
Jude 1:18-19. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Paul gave warnings of this in Acts.
Acts 20:29-30. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Even Paul presented the Gospel in away to protect from this.
1 Corinthians 2:1-5. And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
What prevails is the Word of GOD,not your cunningly devised fables. I'm a disciple of JESUS, and you?They murdered JESUS-GOD,remember?What does the Word of GOD say?
Dialogue between Jews and JESUS:Jo.8:v.33-43
Jews said:-We be Abraham's seed,... John 8:33KJV
- JESUS said: - I know that ye are Abraham's seed... John 8:v.37 (Positive)
Jews said: - Abraham is our father.... John 8:v.39
- JESUS said:- If ye were Abraham's children... John 8:v.39 (If?? hum!)
Jews said: - We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. John 8:v.41
- JESUS said: - If God were your Father... John 8:v.42- (If?? hum!)
- JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? Ye are of your father the Devil..., John 8:43-44
Do you believe in JESUS, Necomb? Even He said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil..., According JESUS, the origin of the Jews comes from the garden of Eden, they are the fallen angels which rebelled against God following their father, the Devil, and going after strange flesh because they kept no their first angelical estate. Jude 1:6 - The angels which kept not their first estate...GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of THIS great day.
Why did JESUS call the Jews of serpents? It is because they are sons of the old serpent, called the Devil, now red Dragon. Matt.23:33-35.
33 -Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
What is the mystery JESUS links the Jews to the murder of Abel, that upon the Jews may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth?
Saint Michael wrote; "If according to the Old Testament God the Father created evil, then does it not follow that a part of God's nature contains evilness?"
The appearance of evil ocurred in consequence of the disobedience of the Cherub and of the all angels that follow him.
Ezekiel 28:v.14 to 19
14 Thou art the anointed Cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the Holy Mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast PERFECT in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till INIQUITY was found in thee.
16 ... and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as PROFANE out of the Mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering Cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast CORRUPTED thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes(reduced the Cherub to Devil) ,upon the EARTH in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the PEOPLE shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a TERROR,and never shalt thou be any more.
Jude 1:v.6-7
6 And the ANGELS which kept not their first estate(celestial estate), but left their own habitation, GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (of the angels), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Gen.6:2-the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair;and they took them wives of all which they chose.I will destroy man whom I have created
Oh no, I did not say what you thought that I said. Note that I focused the generations of MANKIND, I meant from Adam until our days, I did not refer on creation of planet Earth.
Adam and his human nature did appear after the fall of the ruler of Eden and the multitude of angels which followed him- Genesis 6:v.1-12 and Jude 1:v.6-7. So God decided to destroy the man He had created from the face of the earth through a flood of waters upon the earth, and to destroy all flesh, where the breath of life was, from under heaven; and everything that was on earth should perish in the flood waters.
By the way, in the year 1.556 after Adam, Noah was five hundred years old, and GOD said for him to build the Ark. In the year 1.656 after Adam, even in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, in this same day a flood of waters began to fall upon the earth.
For your better understand, and also for all readers, according biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:
Adam lived .................................... 130 yrs and begat Seth
Humility and faith, which is given to believers by the Holyspirit,
and pray with out ceasing.
Not anything we build up to.
What I'm saying YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED IN YOU TO PERFORM SUCH PRAYER!!!
Romans 8:26-27. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
it's not a special office.
It's in the verse you mentioned:
James 5:17. ELIAS WAS A MAN SUBJECT TO ( LIKE PASSIONS AS WE ARE,) and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
Sometimes our flesh can take us out of the spirit and we think we can manifest something into motion by a super duper prayer. There's extremes to this that can hinder,
Some think you must eventually speak in tongues
Some must see someone slain in the spirit.
Jude 1:18-20. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, PRAYING IN THE HOLY GHOST,
If we have any strength at all it's by He that's in us.
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
We're told to submit ourselves to God and do something our flesh don't want to do! "RESIST THE DEVIL "
James 4:7. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
We have 3 enemies, Our flesh, the world, and Satan,
Satan disguise as an Angel of light wouldn't have no trouble with us if we're not barring Gods armour.
Ephesians 6:10-13. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
We hear people in prayer trying to bind Satan,
If we could bind him we would be proud and loose him again!!
Look what Jude say about them.
Jude 1:19-20. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:8-10. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
During the Millennium the devil will be chained a 1000 years, when the devil is loosed man will rebel again in this perfect economy!!
How to understand more about the Holy Spirit & learn all I can. I am 78 years old and have been a New Testament Christian since I was 18 years old. A member of the Lord's Church, church of Christ, @ Sherwood for most of my married life, which will be 60 years the 31st of July.
There are two primary views on the identity of the sons of God and daughters of men. They were godly descendants of Seth intermarrying with wicked descendants of Cain. The major support for this interpretation is Genesis chapter 4 describes the ungodly generations of Cain, and 5 is the godly Seth line and the righteous line of Seth.
Cain and Seth are both descendants of Adam and Eve so if the descendants of Cain's daughters were fair, so the daughters of Seth would also be fair so, godly vs ungodly would have to be the difference. Nowhere in scripture are the descendants of Seth called "the sons of God", but more as an adoption, "shall be my son" as Solomon and us today, who receive Jesus and are led by the Spirit of God are the sons/ daughters of God. ( 1 Chronicles 17:13) ( 2 Corinthians 6:18)
The other view is angels who left their first estate and mated with women. Angels are called sons of God in Job, ( Job 1:6) ( Job 2:1) ( Job 38:7). Some say angels can not mate because of what Jesus said in ( Matthew 22:29-30). But all through scripture angels take on human form, they eat and drink and if they left their first estate it is possible. Scripture does not give a lot about this; we have 1656 years from Adam to the flood in only 7 chapters of Genesis.
Scripture tells us there are devils, demons, and fallen angels but these angels are different they are locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit until judgment. ( 2 Peter 2:4) ( Jude 1: 6). The bottomless pit comes up in Revelation, another study.
Also mentioned are giants/ Nephilim/ Rephaim "in those days; and also after that", before and after the flood. Whether these were offspring of angels' scripture does not tell us. The description in scripture is clear these are not just tall people. ( 2 Samuel 21:16) ( Joshua 12:4) ( Numbers 13:33) ( Deuteronomy 20:17) ( Deuteronomy 2:19-21) ( Amos 2:9).
This is just a small amount of information, maybe it will get you started in your study.
Verses Dealing With Homosexuality and Lesbianism - In Reply on 1 Timothy 1 - 2 years ago
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, AS WITH womankind: it is abomination.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (Read More...)
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, AS he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:26-28 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the NATURAL USE into that which is against nature: (Read More...)
1 Timothy 1:10 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Mark 10:6-9 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. (Read More...)
Jude 1:7 - Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
1 Timothy 1:10-11 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (Read More...)
Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:32 - Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
How Angels Assist the Heirs of Salvation - In Reply - 2 years ago
Matthew 18:10
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels (demons)
Psalms 91:11 - For he (GOD) shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
Luke 22:43 - And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Hebrews 1:14 - Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for THEM who shall be heirs of salvation?
Acts 27:23 - For there stood by me (Paul) this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve.
Psalms 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do HIS commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
COMMENT: The Lord's Prayer is our best example! Matthew 6. This is how we ask God for what we need. The angels are sent by God. They obey God; and we are to ask God for angelic assistance.
Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be HEIRS of salvation?
Last but not least, Ephesians 6. The spirit world is invisible, but can manifest in various ways. This is why we are to be growing our faith on SCRIPTURE (not Hollywood).
Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, not having the Spirit.
1 Peter 2:8 ...even to them that stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto they were APPOINTED.
God is assembling a specific group of people in this age. The Priest that are going to rule, reign and judge the rest of the world in the ages to come. If you weren't CALLED (my sheep here my voice) to this glory then you were appointed to wait till the manifestion of the Sons of God. Since it is God's choice and not ours, God want condemn those for eternity that were not chosen to be Priest. They will be judged latter in US and CHRIST.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building you yourselves on you most holy faith (Christ is our faith), praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:21 Keeping yourselves (by Christ) in the love of God, looking for MERCY of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life (I am the life).
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jude 1:23 And others save (teaching truth) with fear (respect unto God), pulling them out of the fire (Christ judgement in spiritual fire, just as effective as literal fire)(teaching them knowledge of God's plan), hating even the garment spotted with flesh.
Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns (Sons of God, power through Christ) which though saw on the beast, these shall hate the whore (unfaithfulness), and make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with FIRE,
Revelation 17:17 For God hath put it in their hearts to fulfil HIS WILL (all men will be saved), and give their kingdom (Christ in you) unto the beast, until the words of God (all will worship God) shall be fulfilled.
As I know your views are very spiritual and that is good. Though just on one thing I would like to bring up about "fire". I very much understand God or Christ is a consuming fire and we are tried by fire as gold. To purify us. As in 1 Corinthians 3:13. Matthew 3:11.
Though as I will show you with one verse not ALL fire, to me anyway, is Christ, the Holy Ghost, or God in essence the way you perceive. As this fire would guide us to keep us clean and pure for God's Will.
Of coarse God made fire this just showing it is not always where we want to be.
At the end of Jude. In Jude 1:23 it speaks of how we should "save with fear" some people "pulling them out of the fire". As I think you will agree I don't think it is talking about pulling anyone out of the "fire of Christ". More likely the fire spoken of in Revelation 20:15, Matthew 25:41.
Also in the book of Enoch. Here is a small portion of chapter 108: for their names shall be blotted out of the book of life and out of the holy books, and their seed shall be destroyed for ever, and their spirits shall be slain, and they shall cry and make lamentation in a place that is a chaotic wilderness, and in the fire shall they burn.
I know you and me have gone over this before in that I think you perceive everyone "will be saved" in the end. Which I don't fully agree with but that's ok. Whatever the Will of God is, that shall be. Us being Blessed to be with the Lord Jesus Christ is a priceless treasure.
Yes, salvation is a free gift. But, once saved, you need to keep yourself in God's love as Jesus stated at
John 15:10 "IF YE KEEP my commandments, ye shall ABIDE (REMAIN) in my love; even as I have KEPT my Father's commandments, and ABIDE (REMAIN) in his love."
If salvation is just believing and can't be lost, then why did Paul say at
1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."
Sounds to me that Paul disciplined himself to keep himself in God's love. He did not want to be a castaway - rejected.
Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."
Notice the words of James at
James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
James is here speaking to the "BRETHREN" and says that it is possible for a brother (a true believer) to "ERR FROM THE TRUTH" - therefore, he must have been in the truth to start off with, otherwise he would not be erring from it. He has become, once again, a sinner and is in danger of death.
Paul also said at
1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he STANDETH take heed lest he FALL."
Some say that Paul is referring to those who THINK they are standing but really are not. If that were so, then why does he say LEST HE FALL. If they are not standing, they certainly cannot fall.
What Paul is really saying is: Let him that thinks he is standing SOLIDLY, take heed that he does not fall after all.
I certainly do believe your viewpoint is the accurate one. If salvation is just believing and can't be lost, then why did Paul say at
1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."
Sounds to me that Paul disciplined himself to keep himself in God's love. He did not want to be a castaway - rejected.
Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."
Notice the words of James at
James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
James is here speaking to the "BRETHREN" and says that it is possible for a brother (a true believer) to "ERR FROM THE TRUTH" - therefore, he must have been in the truth to start off with, otherwise he would not be erring from it. He has become, once again, a sinner and is in danger of death.
Paul also said at
1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he STANDETH take heed lest he FALL."
Some say that Paul is referring to those who THINK they are standing but really are not. If that were so, then why does he say LEST HE FALL. If they are not standing, they certainly cannot fall.
What Paul is really saying is: Let him that thinks he is standing SOLIDLY, take heed that he does not fall after all.
I leave you with these few thoughts which I thought you might enjoy.
The first few verses provide a warning example. Past examples were given and it was up to each individual Christian of what course he or she would take.
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 1:3.
I guess I will only give a little reply to this question from what I perceive. To begin with Lucifer it is known, I believe, that he was such a perfect angel, created by God, that he began to exult himself even to the point he wanted to be seated on God's throne. Then maybe when God put him in his place he is said to have gathered 1/3 of the angels in Heaven to follow him and make war against God. If this is correct here is a couple Scriptures of these things. Revelation 12:3-4, Revelation 12:7-9.
There is also the account of "other angels" who were banished, from Heaven, for what they did. In the Bible this account is not very detailed of the sons of God(angels) coming down and mingling with the daughters of men and making "giants" or hybrid angel/humans. Genesis 6. This was the main reason why God flooded the world with Noah and the ark etc. In the book of Enoch this story is much more detailed about what happened.
Verses of the "angels that sinned" 2 Peter 2:4-5, Jude 1:6. It is shown that even angels have free will.
As there may have been more to your question I hope what I have stated may have helped somewhat for an answer.
As we know there's several views of Hebrews 6. Here's 4 commonly used.
1) Paul is talking to unconverted Jews that has been enlightened but turned back to Judaism.
2) Paul is talking Jewish believers to urge them towards Maturity, who's mengaling in Judaism, as did the Galatians.
3) Paul is talking to a mix of the 2 just mentioned 1 and 2.
4) He's talking about Jews loosing salvation.
Consider this verse you mentioned-
Hebrews 6:4. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
"IF" This verse means salvation, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RENEW YOU AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE. "" MEANING YOU HAVE ONE CHANCE IN A LIFETIME TO
GET IT RIIGHT!! ARE YOU ARE FOREVER LOST!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! To renew the broken commitment, MEANING ONCE YOU COMMIT ONE SIN YOU ARE LOST.
Which Dont fit in the light of these scriptures?
Jude 1:24-25. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
2 Timothy 1:12. For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
John 10:28-29. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Romans 8:38-39. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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For our friends during their recovery we didn't depend on our own ability. We humbled ourselves and prayed and asked for prayer. We didn't demand anything or perform anything. WE PRAYED.
Now concerning Satan, There's several scripture that I keep in Mind.
Here's just a few.
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN YOU, THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.
James 4:6-7. But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST THE DEVIL, and he will flee from you.
And
Romans 8:28-39.
Ephesians 6:11-18.
I don't quarrel with Satan if I do I relieved myself of my Armor.
I don't mimic what Jesus did When he said
Matthew 4:10. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Jude 1:8-10. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jude 1:16-20. These are murmurers, complainers, WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN lusts; AND THEIR MOUTH SPEAKETH GREAT SWELLING WORDS, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
THESE BE THEY WHO SEPARATE THEMSELVES, SENSUAL, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:3-4. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
This is written to believers.
God bless.
Because people think this is something you do, or you just say.
But it's something that you have no control of!! John is telling us it has already been done by the Holyspirit!
Notice the last four words doesn't say you SHOULD LOVE your brother also. IT SAYS YOU DO! OR IT'S DONE. THIS IS PERFORMED BY THE HOLYSPIRIT. ITS AGAPE.
1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO.
1 John 3:10. IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST, AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, NEITHER HE THAT LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER.
If this Love don't exist between two then maybe you're not brothers. Which implies you have separate Fathers.
Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots
Jude 1:18-19. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
1 John 2:19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US.
Beware of woman and men who say they're Christian but join themselves with EVERYONE how is against truth.
John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Thanks Jesse for much on this lesson.
God bless.
"What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."
Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:( Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. ( Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas ( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
"7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."
Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.
( Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
It appears your primary source from which you hinge your theory is Jude 1:6-7. I encourage you to search 'What is the strange flesh in Jude 1:7?' on GotQuestions website. They did a thorough breakdown of this which I agree with.
I think the strange flesh in verse 7 is the unnatural homosexual behavior that took place within Sodom and Gomorrah, not relations with angels. Of course there was a visit from 2 angels there that the men wanted to have relations with, but they didn't know they were angels. Genesis 6:2-4. HEBREWS 13:2.
Secondly, the example of Jude 1:4-7 points out that God will punish those who disobey and deviate from God's plan for them.
Third, yes, the Bible has metaphors. Example: John 6:56. Eat flesh and drink blood. Have you literally given into cannibalism and eaten Jesus? And is that what it means? No, it's a metaphor. The bread symbolized it. Isaiah 64:8 - are you literally clay? Ezekiel 34:31 - are we a flock of sheep? Here's a simile: Matthew 10:16. 'as' sheep, 'as' serpents, 'as' wolves, which explains it's symbolic. So, when Jesus or God called humans satan were they actually satan or acting like satan? Jesus called Peter satan: Matthew 4:1. So, does that mean Peter was acting like satan or WAS satan? If he literally was satan why then did Jesus forgive him? Peter said he loved Jesus 3 times. Does satan love Jesus?
The other 2 verses you posted seem to serve confirmation bias for your theory, as they are general and are only used to reinforce the original misinterpretation.
God bless...
What does the Word of GOD say?
There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7:
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day).
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.
John the Apostle brings us a deep revelation: John 3:v.10-12
10 In this the children of GOD are manifest,and the children of the DEVIL:whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of GOD,neither he that loveth not his brother.
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning,that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain,who was of that wicked one(WHO WAS OF THE DEVIL, called SATAN),and slew his brother.And wherefore slew he him?Because his own works were evil,and his brother's righteous.
And JESUS said to the Jews: John 8:44-45
41 Ye do the deeds of your FATHER.Then said they to JESUS,We be not born of fornication;we have one Father,even GOD.
42 Jesus said unto them,If GOD were your FATHER,ye would love me:for I proceeded forth and came from GOD;neither came I of myself,but He sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech?even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL,and the lusts of your FATHER ye will do.He was a murderer from the beginning,and abode not in the truth,because there is no truth in him.When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar, and the father of it. Mat.23:33- Ye serpents,ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Gen.1:2-This Scriptures were revealed to Moses around 2.500 years after Adam, beteween 2nd and 3rd Day.
Genesis 1:v.2 And the earth was without form,...
See, GOD was not speaking of the geometric form of the Planet Earth to Moses, which He "hangeth upon nothing"- Job 26:v.7-, no, absolutely, it because the geometric form of the Planet Earth around 6.000 years ago was the same it is today, of course. NOTE: To say the Planet Earth was without geometric form based in Genesis 1:v. 2 is ridiculous.
By the way, GOD had planted a wonderful Garden in Eden were a multitude was ruled by a powerful Cherub- Ezekiel 28:v.13-15 and Isaiah 14:v.12-12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!...
After the rebellion, the inhabitants of Eden, ruler by the fallen Cherub, were transformed into dust, dust of the earth, except the spirit, evidently ( Jude 1:v.6), and the earth did get consequently formless and empty, spiritually, everything was without form but not physically.
Please, re-study your LITERAL conceptions, many of them ridiculous, and cause a lot of mochery. The letter kills.
To the only Wise GOD our Saviour, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:v.1- 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Comments: In JESUS, GOD the Father created the heavens(FOUR HEAVENS) and the earth. (earth here has nothing to do with the Planet Earth, there is a great MYSTERY hidden by the Spirit of GOD, the common man will never understand it.)
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Comments: Actually, if the Bible was speaking of the Planet Earth, it would never be written without form, of course, but
the earth that GOD revealed to Moses IT REALLY had not any FORM, it was void, yeah, was void of the Spirit of GOD, the Word, the Word is GOD; SO, darkness was upon the face of the deep(infested of a multitude of rebels), but the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. GOD always was present here( Isaiah 40:v.21-23.Check it out)
3 And God said, Let there be light:and there was light.4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Comments: What was the intention of GOD in this moment?In His Omniscience and Omnipotence He would go to establish two Alliances with the inhabitants of the Earth through His light.(Please, read 1Thes.5:v.4to8)
5 And God called the light Day,and the darkness he called Night.And the EVENING and the MORNING were the first Day.
NOTE:
After the rebellion in Eden( Jude 1:v.6),GOD planned to restore all things in six days, and in His WISDOM started to work in His plan around 500 years after the rebellion in Eden( Genesis 6:1to5; Jude 1:v.6),it was already EVENING.
Genesis 5 describes a generation of GOD's seed according His plan.Did not he make one?Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one?That he might seek a godly seed. Mal.2:15
It seems no matter where you go you run into some that seems to be be well versed in scripture but fruitless! and seems to separate themselves or worldly and sensual.
Jude 1:18-19. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Paul gave warnings of this in Acts.
Acts 20:29-30. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Even Paul presented the Gospel in away to protect from this.
1 Corinthians 2:1-5. And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
God bless
What prevails is the Word of GOD,not your cunningly devised fables. I'm a disciple of JESUS, and you?They murdered JESUS-GOD,remember?What does the Word of GOD say?
Dialogue between Jews and JESUS:Jo.8:v.33-43
Jews said:-We be Abraham's seed,... John 8:33KJV
- JESUS said: - I know that ye are Abraham's seed... John 8:v.37 (Positive)
Jews said: - Abraham is our father.... John 8:v.39
- JESUS said:- If ye were Abraham's children... John 8:v.39 (If?? hum!)
Jews said: - We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. John 8:v.41
- JESUS said: - If God were your Father... John 8:v.42- (If?? hum!)
- JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? Ye are of your father the Devil..., John 8:43-44
Do you believe in JESUS, Necomb? Even He said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil..., According JESUS, the origin of the Jews comes from the garden of Eden, they are the fallen angels which rebelled against God following their father, the Devil, and going after strange flesh because they kept no their first angelical estate. Jude 1:6 - The angels which kept not their first estate...GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of THIS great day.
Why did JESUS call the Jews of serpents? It is because they are sons of the old serpent, called the Devil, now red Dragon. Matt.23:33-35.
33 -Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
What is the mystery JESUS links the Jews to the murder of Abel, that upon the Jews may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth?
The appearance of evil ocurred in consequence of the disobedience of the Cherub and of the all angels that follow him.
Ezekiel 28:v.14 to 19
14 Thou art the anointed Cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the Holy Mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast PERFECT in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till INIQUITY was found in thee.
16 ... and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as PROFANE out of the Mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering Cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast CORRUPTED thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes(reduced the Cherub to Devil) ,upon the EARTH in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the PEOPLE shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a TERROR,and never shalt thou be any more.
Jude 1:v.6-7
6 And the ANGELS which kept not their first estate(celestial estate), but left their own habitation, GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (of the angels), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Gen.6:2-the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair;and they took them wives of all which they chose.I will destroy man whom I have created
Jude 1:v. 6-7 reveals that: 6 "the angels which kept not their first estate (the nature of angels), but left
their own habitation (but rebelled), ... 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like
manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Regarding to the angels, GOD hath reserved them in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment
of this Great Day - the Lord's Day, that is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, the
Millennium of Christ.
Now, in the time of restoration of all things- Acts 3:v.18 to26-the process will be inverse, from the human
or animal nature to the nature of angels, as JESUS said- Luke 20:v.35-36:
35 But they which shall be accounted WORTHY to obtain that world (the next world-the Kingdom of GOD-
Revelation 11:v.15-18), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS; and are the children of God,
being the children of the resurrection.
Philippians 3:v.20-21 -
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the
working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
1 Corinthians 15:v.53-54
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Adam and his human nature did appear after the fall of the ruler of Eden and the multitude of angels which followed him- Genesis 6:v.1-12 and Jude 1:v.6-7. So God decided to destroy the man He had created from the face of the earth through a flood of waters upon the earth, and to destroy all flesh, where the breath of life was, from under heaven; and everything that was on earth should perish in the flood waters.
By the way, in the year 1.556 after Adam, Noah was five hundred years old, and GOD said for him to build the Ark. In the year 1.656 after Adam, even in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, in this same day a flood of waters began to fall upon the earth.
For your better understand, and also for all readers, according biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:
Adam lived .................................... 130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived 105 yrsand begatEnosh;
Enosh lived ........................................90yrsand begatKenan;
Kenanlived.........................................70yrsand begatMahalalel;
Mahalalellived ....................................65yrsand begatJared;
Jaredlived ........................................162yrs and begatEnoch;
Enochlived .........................................65yrsand begatMethuselah
Methuselahlived.................................187yrsand begatLamech;
Lamechlived.....................................182yrsand begatNoah;
FromNoahs birthuntilthe Flood.........600 yrs.
Total of years fromAdam tothe Flood=1,656 yrs.
I work with the Word of God.Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not human theories or human speculations or conjectures.
Humility and faith, which is given to believers by the Holyspirit,
and pray with out ceasing.
Not anything we build up to.
What I'm saying YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED IN YOU TO PERFORM SUCH PRAYER!!!
Romans 8:26-27. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
it's not a special office.
It's in the verse you mentioned:
James 5:17. ELIAS WAS A MAN SUBJECT TO ( LIKE PASSIONS AS WE ARE,) and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
Sometimes our flesh can take us out of the spirit and we think we can manifest something into motion by a super duper prayer. There's extremes to this that can hinder,
Some think you must eventually speak in tongues
Some must see someone slain in the spirit.
Jude 1:18-20. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, PRAYING IN THE HOLY GHOST,
GOD BLESS.
If we have any strength at all it's by He that's in us.
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
We're told to submit ourselves to God and do something our flesh don't want to do! "RESIST THE DEVIL "
James 4:7. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
We have 3 enemies, Our flesh, the world, and Satan,
Satan disguise as an Angel of light wouldn't have no trouble with us if we're not barring Gods armour.
Ephesians 6:10-13. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
We hear people in prayer trying to bind Satan,
If we could bind him we would be proud and loose him again!!
Look what Jude say about them.
Jude 1:19-20. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:8-10. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
During the Millennium the devil will be chained a 1000 years, when the devil is loosed man will rebel again in this perfect economy!!
God bless
In Christian Love.
Geneva Shields
There are two primary views on the identity of the sons of God and daughters of men. They were godly descendants of Seth intermarrying with wicked descendants of Cain. The major support for this interpretation is Genesis chapter 4 describes the ungodly generations of Cain, and 5 is the godly Seth line and the righteous line of Seth.
Cain and Seth are both descendants of Adam and Eve so if the descendants of Cain's daughters were fair, so the daughters of Seth would also be fair so, godly vs ungodly would have to be the difference. Nowhere in scripture are the descendants of Seth called "the sons of God", but more as an adoption, "shall be my son" as Solomon and us today, who receive Jesus and are led by the Spirit of God are the sons/ daughters of God. ( 1 Chronicles 17:13) ( 2 Corinthians 6:18)
The other view is angels who left their first estate and mated with women. Angels are called sons of God in Job, ( Job 1:6) ( Job 2:1) ( Job 38:7). Some say angels can not mate because of what Jesus said in ( Matthew 22:29-30). But all through scripture angels take on human form, they eat and drink and if they left their first estate it is possible. Scripture does not give a lot about this; we have 1656 years from Adam to the flood in only 7 chapters of Genesis.
Scripture tells us there are devils, demons, and fallen angels but these angels are different they are locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit until judgment. ( 2 Peter 2:4) ( Jude 1: 6). The bottomless pit comes up in Revelation, another study.
Also mentioned are giants/ Nephilim/ Rephaim "in those days; and also after that", before and after the flood. Whether these were offspring of angels' scripture does not tell us. The description in scripture is clear these are not just tall people. ( 2 Samuel 21:16) ( Joshua 12:4) ( Numbers 13:33) ( Deuteronomy 20:17) ( Deuteronomy 2:19-21) ( Amos 2:9).
This is just a small amount of information, maybe it will get you started in your study.
RLW
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (Read More...)
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, AS he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:26-28 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the NATURAL USE into that which is against nature: (Read More...)
1 Timothy 1:10 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Mark 10:6-9 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. (Read More...)
Jude 1:7 - Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
1 Timothy 1:10-11 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (Read More...)
Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:32 - Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels (demons)
Psalms 91:11 - For he (GOD) shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
Luke 22:43 - And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
Hebrews 1:14 - Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for THEM who shall be heirs of salvation?
Acts 27:23 - For there stood by me (Paul) this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve.
Psalms 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do HIS commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
COMMENT: The Lord's Prayer is our best example! Matthew 6. This is how we ask God for what we need. The angels are sent by God. They obey God; and we are to ask God for angelic assistance.
Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be HEIRS of salvation?
Last but not least, Ephesians 6. The spirit world is invisible, but can manifest in various ways. This is why we are to be growing our faith on SCRIPTURE (not Hollywood).
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, not having the Spirit.
1 Peter 2:8 ...even to them that stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto they were APPOINTED.
God is assembling a specific group of people in this age. The Priest that are going to rule, reign and judge the rest of the world in the ages to come. If you weren't CALLED (my sheep here my voice) to this glory then you were appointed to wait till the manifestion of the Sons of God. Since it is God's choice and not ours, God want condemn those for eternity that were not chosen to be Priest. They will be judged latter in US and CHRIST.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building you yourselves on you most holy faith (Christ is our faith), praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:21 Keeping yourselves (by Christ) in the love of God, looking for MERCY of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life (I am the life).
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jude 1:23 And others save (teaching truth) with fear (respect unto God), pulling them out of the fire (Christ judgement in spiritual fire, just as effective as literal fire)(teaching them knowledge of God's plan), hating even the garment spotted with flesh.
Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns (Sons of God, power through Christ) which though saw on the beast, these shall hate the whore (unfaithfulness), and make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with FIRE,
Revelation 17:17 For God hath put it in their hearts to fulfil HIS WILL (all men will be saved), and give their kingdom (Christ in you) unto the beast, until the words of God (all will worship God) shall be fulfilled.
God bless
As I know your views are very spiritual and that is good. Though just on one thing I would like to bring up about "fire". I very much understand God or Christ is a consuming fire and we are tried by fire as gold. To purify us. As in 1 Corinthians 3:13. Matthew 3:11.
Though as I will show you with one verse not ALL fire, to me anyway, is Christ, the Holy Ghost, or God in essence the way you perceive. As this fire would guide us to keep us clean and pure for God's Will.
Of coarse God made fire this just showing it is not always where we want to be.
At the end of Jude. In Jude 1:23 it speaks of how we should "save with fear" some people "pulling them out of the fire". As I think you will agree I don't think it is talking about pulling anyone out of the "fire of Christ". More likely the fire spoken of in Revelation 20:15, Matthew 25:41.
Also in the book of Enoch. Here is a small portion of chapter 108: for their names shall be blotted out of the book of life and out of the holy books, and their seed shall be destroyed for ever, and their spirits shall be slain, and they shall cry and make lamentation in a place that is a chaotic wilderness, and in the fire shall they burn.
I know you and me have gone over this before in that I think you perceive everyone "will be saved" in the end. Which I don't fully agree with but that's ok. Whatever the Will of God is, that shall be. Us being Blessed to be with the Lord Jesus Christ is a priceless treasure.
God Bless you brother Earl.
John 15:10 "IF YE KEEP my commandments, ye shall ABIDE (REMAIN) in my love; even as I have KEPT my Father's commandments, and ABIDE (REMAIN) in his love."
If salvation is just believing and can't be lost, then why did Paul say at
1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."
Sounds to me that Paul disciplined himself to keep himself in God's love. He did not want to be a castaway - rejected.
Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."
Notice the words of James at
James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
James is here speaking to the "BRETHREN" and says that it is possible for a brother (a true believer) to "ERR FROM THE TRUTH" - therefore, he must have been in the truth to start off with, otherwise he would not be erring from it. He has become, once again, a sinner and is in danger of death.
Paul also said at
1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he STANDETH take heed lest he FALL."
Some say that Paul is referring to those who THINK they are standing but really are not. If that were so, then why does he say LEST HE FALL. If they are not standing, they certainly cannot fall.
What Paul is really saying is: Let him that thinks he is standing SOLIDLY, take heed that he does not fall after all.
Kindly.
I certainly do believe your viewpoint is the accurate one. If salvation is just believing and can't be lost, then why did Paul say at
1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."
Sounds to me that Paul disciplined himself to keep himself in God's love. He did not want to be a castaway - rejected.
Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."
Notice the words of James at
James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
James is here speaking to the "BRETHREN" and says that it is possible for a brother (a true believer) to "ERR FROM THE TRUTH" - therefore, he must have been in the truth to start off with, otherwise he would not be erring from it. He has become, once again, a sinner and is in danger of death.
Paul also said at
1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he STANDETH take heed lest he FALL."
Some say that Paul is referring to those who THINK they are standing but really are not. If that were so, then why does he say LEST HE FALL. If they are not standing, they certainly cannot fall.
What Paul is really saying is: Let him that thinks he is standing SOLIDLY, take heed that he does not fall after all.
I leave you with these few thoughts which I thought you might enjoy.
Take care, Adam.
For your comments,
As Jude said
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 1:3.
Let us all work together in do so.
God bless you.
I guess I will only give a little reply to this question from what I perceive. To begin with Lucifer it is known, I believe, that he was such a perfect angel, created by God, that he began to exult himself even to the point he wanted to be seated on God's throne. Then maybe when God put him in his place he is said to have gathered 1/3 of the angels in Heaven to follow him and make war against God. If this is correct here is a couple Scriptures of these things. Revelation 12:3-4, Revelation 12:7-9.
There is also the account of "other angels" who were banished, from Heaven, for what they did. In the Bible this account is not very detailed of the sons of God(angels) coming down and mingling with the daughters of men and making "giants" or hybrid angel/humans. Genesis 6. This was the main reason why God flooded the world with Noah and the ark etc. In the book of Enoch this story is much more detailed about what happened.
Verses of the "angels that sinned" 2 Peter 2:4-5, Jude 1:6. It is shown that even angels have free will.
As there may have been more to your question I hope what I have stated may have helped somewhat for an answer.
God Bless.
As we know there's several views of Hebrews 6. Here's 4 commonly used.
1) Paul is talking to unconverted Jews that has been enlightened but turned back to Judaism.
2) Paul is talking Jewish believers to urge them towards Maturity, who's mengaling in Judaism, as did the Galatians.
3) Paul is talking to a mix of the 2 just mentioned 1 and 2.
4) He's talking about Jews loosing salvation.
Consider this verse you mentioned-
Hebrews 6:4. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
"IF" This verse means salvation, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RENEW YOU AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE. "" MEANING YOU HAVE ONE CHANCE IN A LIFETIME TO
GET IT RIIGHT!! ARE YOU ARE FOREVER LOST!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! To renew the broken commitment, MEANING ONCE YOU COMMIT ONE SIN YOU ARE LOST.
Which Dont fit in the light of these scriptures?
Jude 1:24-25. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
2 Timothy 1:12. For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
John 10:28-29. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Romans 8:38-39. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.