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  • Michael - In Reply on Psalms 70 - 2 years ago
    Hello Richard,

    The danger of believing that we cannot lose our salvation is that a person may thus not take seriously the importance of carefully safeguarding our "faith" and not giving in to "willful" sin that can rupture our relationship with God. John 15:10 ; Jude 1:21.

    2 Peter 3:16 "As also in all his (Paul's) epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they...wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION."

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and bring IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."

    2 Timothy 4:7-8 "I" (Paul) have fought a good fight, "I" (Paul) have finished my course, "I" (Paul) have kept the faith: HENCEFORTH there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

    To say that a person who stops believing and obeying God was never really a Christian is superfluous. God promises that if a person repents and believes in Christ, he will have his sins forgiven. Acts 3:19. When gentiles did this, they received the Holy Spirit from God and were baptized in water. They became part of the Church. Acts 10:44-48. However, they must now be careful not to abandon their faith (apostatize) or give in to the sinful flesh with no care or repentance.

    Hebrews 12:15-17 Looking diligently lest any man FAIL OF THE GRACE OF GOD; lest any ROOT OF BITTERNESS SPRINGING UP trouble you, and thereby many be DEFILED; Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat SOLD HIS BIRTHRIGHT. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, HE WAS REJECTED: for he found NO PLACE OF REPENTANCE, though he sought it carefully with tears.

    Good day, Richard.
  • Mari B - In Reply on Psalms 103 - 2 years ago
    To Mary Cooley: In the book of Jude 1:20: "But ye beloved, building up your most holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost". This is praying to the Lord in a language between you & him. It's from your heart to his. Bible says it edifies your faith
  • Michael - In Reply on Romans 5 - 2 years ago
    Hello S Spencer,

    1) When someone "truly" believes in Christ Jesus, he automatically receives the Holy Spirit (see Acts 10:44) and is attached to the vine, Jesus Christ. This is nicely explained in the parallel account of John 15:1-6 at:

    Romans 11:19-21 "Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be GRAFFED IN. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and THOU STANDEST BY FAITH. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest HE ALSO SPARE NOT THEE.

    Notice, the "gentile" believer, like a branch, is graffed into the olive tree because of his faith in Christ Jesus. But, Paul says to fear - why? Because God can "spare not thee" as he "spared not" the unbelieving Jews.

    2) The apostle Peter was writing to faithful believing Christians. See 2 Peter 1:1. He is giving them a warning against false prophets. See 2 Peter 2:1. He specifically says about these ones that they "have forsaken the right way". See 2 Peter 2:15. So, at one time, they were on the right way. At 2 Peter 2:20, he says that they "had escaped the pollutions of the world" but, unfortunately, "they are again entangled therein". They have returned to the world.

    Thus, they are likened to a dog who has vomited out his vomit and left it for good. But, then, he returns. Or, the sow (pig) who used to role in the mud. Then he leaves the mud and is cleansed. But, unfortunately, he then returns. In a similar way, these ones who believed in Christ Jesus and received the Holy Spirit and were cleansed of their old, sinful ways, have now returned to their sinful practices. Peter says "too bad for them". Jude says they have "died twice". See Jude 14.

    3) As for Hebrews, Paul is speaking to believers.

    Hebrews 6:4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST,". This happened when they believed. See again Acts 10:44.

    I invite your further thoughts."
  • Michael - In Reply on Romans 5 - 2 years ago
    Hello Jesse.

    Thank you for your comments.

    1) When someone "truly" believes in Christ Jesus, he automatically receives the Holy Spirit (see Acts 10:44) and is attached to the vine, Jesus Christ. This is nicely explained in the parallel account at:

    Romans 11:19-21 "Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be GRAFFED IN. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and THOU STANDEST BY FAITH. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest HE ALSO SPARE NOT THEE.

    Notice, the "gentile" believer, like a branch, is graffed into the olive tree because of his faith in Christ Jesus. But, Paul says to fear - why? Because God can "spare not thee" as he "spared not" the unbelieving Jews.

    2) The apostle Peter was writing to faithful believing Christians. See 2 Peter 1:1. He is giving them a warning against false prophets. See 2 Peter 2:1. He specifically says about these ones that they "have forsaken the right way". See 2 Peter 2:15. So, at one time, they were on the right way. At 2 Peter 2:20, he says that they "had escaped the pollutions of the world" but, unfortunately, "they are again entangled therein". They have returned to the world.

    Thus, they are likened to a dog who has vomited out his vomit and left it for good. But, then, he returns. Or, the sow (pig) who used to role in the mud. Then he leaves the mud and is cleansed. But, unfortunately, he then returns. In a similar way, these ones who believed in Christ Jesus and received the Holy Spirit and were cleansed of their old, sinful ways, have now returned to their sinful practices. Peter says "too bad for them". Jude says they have "died twice". See Jude 14.

    3) As for Hebrews, Paul is speaking to believers.

    Hebrews 6:4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST,". This happened when they believed. See again Acts 10:44.

    I invite your further thoughts.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 5 - 2 years ago
    Michael.

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    Hebrews 3:7-11.Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

    Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

    When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.

    Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

    So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

    Israel had a hardened heart. Which is the condition to all men without the "NEW" heart given by the Lord when saved.

    ( Hebrews 4:2-3. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.)

    ( For we which have believed do enter into rest,) as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

    Jude 1:5. answers itself, " they believe not' ( Was not saved )

    James 2:21&26.

    21:Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

    26:For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

    James is speaking of works "AFTER" salvation not for salvation.

    Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

    Philippians 2:13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. This is what James 2:21 is speaking of.

    Hebrews 6:12-19, and James 2:21.

    These are 2 seperate accounts of Abraham in Hebrews 6:12-16 and James 2:21-23.

    "Hebrews the promise was Issac confirmed by an oath". Played out in Gen. 15:1-12.

    James was "Abraham having faith in THAT promise". Played out in Gen. 22:1-14.
  • Mari B - In Reply on Psalms 103 - 2 years ago
    To Mary Cooley: In the book of Jude 1:20: "But ye beloved, building up your most holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost". This is praying to the Lord in a language between you & him. It's from your heart to his. Bible says it edifies your faith
  • Mari lyn - In Reply on Psalms 103 - 2 years ago
    To Mary Cooley: In the book of Jude 1:20: "But ye beloved, building up your most holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost".
  • Michael - In Reply on Romans 5 - 2 years ago
    Hello S Spencer,

    Regarding Hebrews 6:13-19, I would direct your attention specifically to verse 15.

    Hebrews 6:15 "And so, AFTER HE HAD PATIENTLY ENDURED, he obtained the promise."

    Compare that with Hebrews 6:12.

    Hebrews 6:12 "That ye be not slothful, but followers of them WHO THROUGH FAITH AND PATIENCE inherit the promises."

    James 2:21 "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?"

    What would have happened had Abraham developed a wicked heart and refused to obey God? What if Abraham had cursed God and returned to his original place of residence - the land of Ur? Would he have inherited the promises?

    What happened to Israel when they became bad? Did they inherit the promised land? Were they (that generation) not all destroyed in the desert and did not enter the promised land?

    Hebrews 3:10-11 "Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest."

    Jude 1:5 "I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having SAVED the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward DESTROYED them that believed not."

    1 Corinthians 10:5 "But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness."

    God's promises are certain. They will never fail. They are, in fact, like an anchor. So we can absolutely trust God. However, for us to benefit from those promises, we must exercise faith in God - unwavering trust in obeying God and all that he asks of us.

    James 2:26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also."

    2 Peter 1:10-11 "Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election SURE: for IF ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

    Good day.
  • Chacha Dean - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 2 years ago
    Hey Adam,

    Repenting and confessing are two different things. Confession is admitting you are a sinner( 1 John 1:8-9) but repentance, as I have stated earlier, is "to turn from something...." You say, "It is an unusual position to claim that repenting doesn't mean repenting of sins. In this context what else would someone be repenting of?" But looking at the bilbe, God repented more than anyone else. So if you are asking "..what else would someone be repenting of, if not sins" then I would ask you, did God sin so that He can repent? The problem is we associate repentance with " repenting of sins" and that's not the case. Even Hebrews says this:

    Hebrews 6:1-3

    "Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit."

    Did the author say Repentance from sins? No! He said "repentance from dead works"... We cannot just add "...of your sins" in front of every "repent" word...

    The Bible does not say devils believe so they will go to heaven. Romans 10:9 says - "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." I have never read anywhere where devils confessed with their mouths that God raised Christ from the dead, and even more so, devils cant get saved because it's to late for them - Jude 1:6 - Hitler, Stalin there is no evidence to suggest they got saved because of Matthew 7:14-20
  • Mari lyn - In Reply on Psalms 103 - 2 years ago
    To Mary, "But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost". Jude 1:20 (kjv)
  • Michael - In Reply on Romans 5 - 2 years ago
    Hello Tomeko,

    Unfortunately, many misunderstand what being saved by grace means.

    Yes, there is nothing we could do to save ourselves. Jesus had to die for us to save us. However, we have to repent of our sins and believe (or trust) in Jesus Christ as God's means of removing our sins and saving us. Repenting means that we tell God that we are sorry and that we no longer want to live in sin.

    But, once saved, a person must keep himself in God's love.

    Jude 1:21 "Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."

    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide (remain) in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide (remain) in his love."

    We also need to walk in the light if we are to have the blood of Jesus wash away our sins.

    1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

    The apostle Paul fought a good fight to remain in God's love and thus could receive the crown of righteousness.

    2 Timothy 4:7, 8 "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

    Perhaps, an example could help.

    A man kills another man. He will be executed. The judge has mercy on him and tells him he will free him if the man repents and promises to not repeat his act. The man agrees. The man was freely forgiven as an act of grace and mercy. There was nothing he could do to save himself. But, now, he must keep to the terms and not kill again. If he does, he will be executed.

    Philippians 2:12 "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

    I bid you a good day.
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on John 3:13 - 2 years ago
    Hello brother Earl,

    Again I thank you for your replies. As it is our destiny to grow in the Spirit of Christ and see with His eyes.

    As the ways of God are beyond what I could fathom. Truly my faith in God and Jesus Christ being, that whatever the way of the Lord is, I know it is the right way and I am His forever. Even if I don't understand. Keeping root in the Word with a pure heart and staying close to the Lord. He shall direct us down the straight and narrow path. His Will shall be done.

    Weather we believe "hell" to be a place of eternal torment like stated in Matthew 25:46. Or as you explain. It is a place we do not want to go or have anything to do with. Christ stating in Matthew 10:28.

    As we who are in Christ here are Blessed to have been chosen by Him to be His.

    In 1 Corinthians 16:22 stating those who "love not the Lord"(not with the Lord) to basically let him be set aside for the coming Judgement of the Lord.

    A couple about saving a soul. As we can only plant or water, it is God who gives the growth. James 5:19-20, Jude 1:23.

    Again thank you for your time and posts brother. It means a lot.

    God Bless you Earl. Have a wonderful day!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on John 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Spinnz,

    It seemed I left out a dozen words in my last passage,

    It's clear the scripture tells us to be of one mind, And we may have to reprove one another but NOT rule over one another AND WE SHOULD WELCOME IT. ( being reproved )

    We're taught to wash one another's feet, Hold one another accountable to righteousness Christian living, and SOUND DOCTRINE.

    Some may despise reproof, There false doctrines is strategic, well sought out and Satan inspired, These are the spots mentioned in Jude 1:12. that feast with us.

    Thanks for letting me clear up my bad penmanship.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on John 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Spinnz.

    What we have here is 2 lessons the Lord is teaching us,

    ( The Lord washing the disciples feet teaches Humility, and the disciples washing one another's feet emphasize Our walk, "Restoring into fellowship"

    ( Galatians 6:1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one IN THE SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS; CONSIDERING THYSELF, lest thou also be tempted.)

    John 13:12-17. So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, ""HE SAID UNTO THEM, KNOW YE WHAT I HAVE DONE TO YOU?""

    ( YE CALL ME MASTER AND LORD: AND YE SAY WELL; FOR SO I AM.

    IF I THEN, YOUR LORD AND MASTER, HAVE WASHED YOUR FEET; YE ALSO OUGHT TO WASH ONE ANOTHER'S FEET.)

    FOR I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EXAMPLE, THAT YE SHOULD DO AS I HAVE DONE TO YOU.

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

    IF YE KNOW THESE THINGS, HAPPY ARE YE IF YE DO THEM.

    It's clear the scripture tells us to be of one mind, And we may have to reprove one another but rule over, AND WE SHOULD WELCOME IT.

    2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Iron sharpens Iron

    We should welcome it.

    BUT NOT ALL

    Studying Jude you will see this has crept into the Church.

    Jude 1:8, 12, 16 (KJV) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

    Jd 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

    Jd 1: 16. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

    Don't kick against the bricks and Love one another
  • Tim Clifton on Jude 1:4 - 2 years ago
    Whatever "Ordained...." means in Jude 1:4, it has to do with the immutable counsel of God that transcends time and is far above our understanding. For who can know the mind of God, and can any of you be His counselors? If God is willing to put up with vessels of wrath (this is what ordained means) fitted for destruction, who alive can ask Him why, or have the slightest hope of understanding His ways. Is He fair? You'd better hope not: the cross proves that. Is He love? He is love, and a love that fits perfectly with His holiness, that would instantly slay us all in hell if it wasn't for a love that knows no human bounds. So what does it mean when He says, 'as many as were ordained to eternal life believed', or 'you don't believe because you are not my sheep'? It's certainly NOT because there is any goodness in us that He saw outside of time. No, no, it remains in His unknowable counsel that is both outside of time and our understanding. Your job and duty is to fall before Him in fear and honor, and give Him every breath you will ever breath in this life, for who can know His unsearchable mind?
  • JERMAINE LEYNORD HICKS on 1 Peter 4:14 - 2 years ago
    Satan thrown out of heaven: and they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death revelation 12:11.their spiritual state of being: i have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of god abides in you, and you have overcome the wicked one 1 john 2:14. obedience of faith: for whatever is born of god overcomes the world. and this is the victory that has overcome the world_ our faith. who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that jesus is the son of god? 1 john 5:4-5. glory to god: now to him able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, to god our savior, who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever.amen jude 1:24-25
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 3:2 - 2 years ago
    Hi Bill,

    That's another tough highly debated topic!

    Thank God we are overcomers ( by the blood of Christ ). There is nothing we can take away from it and there's nothing we can add to it.

    Often we just look at what we think to be the worst sins and single them out like murder ect.. So we don't carry those acts out, does that make us Perfect, Does that lift the old sin nature, Does that take care of sin where it generates before we carry out the act, which is in the HEART!

    If it was up to us we all would loose our salvation. THANK GOD ITS NOT!

    Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, JUDE 1:24.

    Let's take a look at Sardis and their condition.

    Revelation 3:1.... I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

    Some of those in Sardis is in a condition where they have a "name " they are live but they're dead. " Not all"

    Man's righteousness is as filthy rags, the spotted garments can also mean your self righteousness, that fits Sardis.

    Man is unable to clean himself or stay clean apart from the Holyspirit.

    Revelation 3:4-5. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

    He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

    Jesus died for the Whole world, Some suggest that everyone is written in "this" book and their name will remain because they overcame by the blood of the Lamb.

    Some only had a name that they liveth but are dead.

    Psalms 69:28 (KJV) Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.
  • Adam - In Reply on Matthew 27:54 - 2 years ago
    Dear Sherry,

    It appears you're receiving mostly responses that de-emphasize obedience. I do not believe once saved always saved, because of Matthew 12:22-32 and so many other verses. I think if that was true Jesus would not have continually warned his followers (Christians) over and over through parables and stories about obedience and keeping His commandments and avoiding sin. It takes effort. It literally addresses this already in the Bible- saying that people used it as a license to sin and "abuse" grace: Jude 1:4, Hebrews 10:26, James 2:14-26, John 14:15, James 2:19. I fully believe all the verses others shared with you above, but unfortunately it appears most are sharing an imbalanced perspective. The Word speaks for itself and does not say once saved, always saved. Christians can and do turn from the faith, unfortunately, and sometimes a % go in the complete opposite direction and do horrific things, just like any other person can who does evil and follows the world or satan. I'm responding, because I think it's important that you not listen to men, but to the Word and pray and ask God for wisdom that you will know the truth. There are many false prophets and fake news being spread and we know who is behind that. God bless...
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1:2 - 2 years ago
    I actually found the Book of Jude part on this story, just now:

    Context Summary

    Jude 1:5-16 describes the nature, errors, and fate of false teachers plaguing the Christian church. Jude's readers seem to have been acquainted with Israel's history. This passage references Old Testament events to help explain the apostates' sins, the danger they pose, and how the Lord will punish them. Jude references the unbelief of Israel after the Lord delivered them from slavery in Egypt, rebellious angels, the ungodly people of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the dangers of allowing such people to mingle with other believers.

    Chapter Context

    Jude's brief letter describes men at their worst and God at His best. Believers are already on the victorious side! Those who mock God's truth and who follow their own desires all while claiming to be Christians, are the most dangerous kind of unbelievers. These persons pose a danger to themselves and to any Christians they might influence. In response, Christians need to focus on understanding the truth of God's written Word and submitting to His will.

    None of this fits in with Michael the Archangel.
  • Jude 19 and what was the strife about - In Reply on Genesis 1:2 - 2 years ago
    It's possible I remembered a different tussle someone had with Satan. I know there's a 2nd incident in Daniel. Where Gabriel was bringing an answer to Daniels prayer, and Michael had to fight principalities to get Gabriel through. Amazing when you consider it.

    You're right in the point that Moses was already buried, and Michael was sent to guard the burial place. The point being that Satan wanted to use the body for idol worship or another reason? Here's part of the commentary on that:

    " The key point here is that Michael, despite being a powerful being himself, refused to slander the Devil. This proves the arrogance of the apostates Jude is discussing. They are so conceited that they're doing what even an archangel won't!

    Moses, Israel's leader during the exodus from Egypt, was buried by the Lord in an unknown place ( Deuteronomy 34:1-6). According to the traditional account, Michael and the Devil had engaged in a dispute about the burial of Moses' body, but Michael would not slander the Devil. Instead, he yielded to God's authority by trusting Him to rebuke the Devil. We do not know the details of the dispute, but God may have assigned Michael with the task of guarding Moses' grave, and the Devil may have wanted to steal Moses' body to make it an object of worship."

    Evidently it would be better to Google the History of Jude 1, and see what New Testament conflict he was having with the locals. I'll get back to you.

    And thanks so much for bringing this to my split attention. Today my electric company swears I cancelled my service after the ice storm, a month ago. I didn't. They Couldn't resolve that they made an error; so I had to tell them I was going elsewhere to get service, which I did. Sounds similar to Michael & Satan, lol.
  • Part 4 some scriptures concerning the Grace of God - In Reply on Acts 1 - 2 years ago
    "For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengenance belongeth to me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" Hebrews 10:26-31

    "We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive the grace of God in vain" 2 Corinthians 6:1

    "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth" Genesis 6:7

    "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord" Genesis 6:8

    "Thou shall not Kill" Exodus 20:13

    "Thou shall not commit adultery" Genesis 20:14

    "An Ammonite or a Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the Lord for ever" Deuteronomy 23:3

    "and Ruth the Moabitess.." Ruth 1:22

    "Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy" Romans 9:18

    "..ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ" Jude 1:4

    "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Romans 6:1-2

    "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey: whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" Romans 6:16

    "the soul that sinneth , it shall die" Ezekiel 18:14
  • OnlytruthintheworldKJV - In Reply on Mark 3 - 3 years ago
    Well praise the Lord!

    Pardon my redundancy but since this is a dalvation issue allow me to confirm; you have been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (and not the titles Father Son and Holy Ghost) for the remission of sins?

    Verily what you said that The Father (God), The Word (God) and the Holy Ghost (God) are one. However, if you happen to believe that the word; Word actually means Christ, or Son of God, then unfortunately you have been deceived by rome's sorcerers/ theologians. JOHN 1:1 KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    Amen.

    The word, Word means written or spoken unit of communication. Just like these words I am writing to you here. They are my word (aside from my Father's word -1 Perer 4:11 :) and they are with me.

    In summary, getting back to the original question at hand: yes, the Holy Scriptures clearly show that every time someone received the Gift of the Holy Ghost in the book of Acts, the initial manifestation and evidence of it is that they would speak in an unknown tongue (be it of men or angels) and prophesy and magnify God, Hallelujah! This is not to misconstrue the initial evidence of having received the Gift with the individual 'gift of diverse tongues' or being able to speak in known languages of men without ever having learned them (Paul speaks of this in 1 Corinthians 12).

    So yes, in summary, all who receive the gift of the Holy Ghost will speak in an unknown tongue as the Spirit gives them utterance. However not all have the gift of diverse tongues. Covet the best gifts.

    I hope this helps you so that you can press in in prayer and praise and receive the Gift, as Jesus said in Luke 11:13 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

    Amen.

    We don't want to boast of a false gift as that would make us like what is spoken of in Proverbs 25:14, & Jude 1:12 if we continue.

    Be well
  • Earl Bowman on 1 Peter 4 - 3 years ago
    THERE ARE TWO JUDGMENTS

    May the Spirit grace us with His truth an understanding.

    If there are not two judgments, then how are the saints going to judge the world; because all have to be judged.

    1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come (during a persons physical lifetime) that JUDGMEMT must begin at the house of God ( Hebrews 3:6): an if it first begin at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God.

    1 Corinthians 11:31-32 For if we would judge ourselves (by the word of God), we should not be judged.

    (vs 32) But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord (as children), that we should not be condemned with the world.

    1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect (love your enemy), that we may have boldness in the day of judgment (in our lifetime), because as he is (he loves his enemies), so are we in this world.

    Jude 1:15 To execute judgement on all, and to convince all (some are convinced in their lifetime some are not)....

    2 Thessalonians 1:4-5 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and TRIBULATIONS that you endure:

    (vs 5) Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, which you also suffer:

    1 Timothy 5:24 Some men's sins are open before hand, going before to judgment; and some men they (judgments) follow after.

    There are many more scriptures that confirm two judgments if you look for them; most don't look but are happy to follow the traditions of man.
  • Ron - In Reply on Judges 21 - 3 years ago
    Hi Skip, hope you don't mind, I agree with your "wonder to the angels". I have not read anywhere in scripture that angels will be replaced. In Matt. 25:41 we read the lake of fire was prepared for Satan (devil) and his angels and like everything else, most likely before the foundation of the world, the plan of God. We read in Job1:6 Job 2:1 Satan still has access to heaven, Satan and God are having a conversation about Job. We also see God puts restrictions on Satan.

    I Luke.10:18 we read Jesus saw Satan fall as lightning from heaven.

    In Revelation 12:10 we read the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down. Satan did not fall in Revelation 12, he was cast out of heaven "neither was their place found any more in heaven". We also see in Revelation 12:11 the reason they were able to cast Satan out. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony"; This shows this is at least after the crucifying of Jesus, more likely in the future. Also, in Revelation 12, it is permanent, they are rejoicing in heaven Satan will no longer have access to heaven. When Satan is cast out down to earth he gives his power to the beast in Revelation 13.

    In the Bible, we can read angels left their first estate and their own habitation and are locked in chains of darkness until judgment day. Jude 1:6 and 2Pet.2:4. Some scriptures say there are demons, evil spirits on the earth, and how they got here there is little information in the Bible how. You have to go outside the Bible and compile a bushel of speculations and pick one but be careful.

    Some things are not answered by scriptures but do not affect our salvation. The things we do need are in bold print.

    Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

    Thanks Ron
  • Carleton on Revelation 18 - 3 years ago
    Good morning all, it is the first day of the week. And it is lovely.

    Jude 1:3

    Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
  • Charles R Peek - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 3 years ago
    No, you cannot lose your salvation, here is why:

    1. We are washed from our sins by the blood of Christ. Rev. 1:5

    2. We are justified or acquitted from all guilt. Rom. 5:1; Tit 3-7

    3. We receive the forgiveness of all sins. Col 1:14; 2:13

    4. We are redeemed or purchased by God through the blood of

    Christ. I Pet. 1:18; Heb. 9:12

    5. We are born again spiritually into God's family. John 1:12; 3:3-5;

    Gal 3:26; I John 5:1

    6. Our sins are not imputed unto us. Romans 4:8 Romans 5:13 7. We are given eternal life and shall never perish. John 10:28; I

    John 5:11-13

    8. We are reconciled or restored to a right relationship with God. II

    Cor. 5:18; Col 1:21

    9. We are made the righteousness of God. II Cor. 5:21

    10. We receive the Holy Spirit. I Cor. 6:19; I John 4:13

    11. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit to the day of redemption. Eph.

    1:13-14; I John 4:13; II Cor. 1:22

    12. We are anointed by God with the Holy Spirit. II Cor. 1:22; I John

    2:27

    13. We are placed into the body of Christ. I Cor. 12:13,27

    14. Our bodies become the members of Christ. I Cor. 6:15; Eph 5:30

    15. We become one spirit with the Lord Jesus. I Cor. 6:17

    16. God becomes the owner of our body and spirit. I Cor. 6:20

    17. We are placed into Christ and found "in Him". John 14:20

    18. We are risen with Christ to life. Col 2:12-13; 3:1

    19. We are adopted as sons of God. Eph. 1:5; Rom 8:15

    20. We enter into the grace of God. Rom 5:1-2

    21. We are delivered from darkness and Satanic power. Col 1:13;

    Eph. 5:8; Acts 26:18

    22. We are placed into the kingdom of Christ. Col 1:13

    23. We have been spiritually healed. I Pet. 2:24; Acts 28:27

    24. We are chosen in Christ to be blameless before Him Eph. 1:4

    25. We are predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. Rom 8:29

    26. We are elect according to the foreknowledge of God. I Pet. 1:2

    27. We are perfected or made complete forever. Heb. 10:14

    28. We are preserved or kept safe in Christ Jesus. Jude 1; II Tim.

    4:18 29. God forgets all our sins forever. Heb. 10:17

    30. We are s
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Romans 8:9 - 3 years ago
    Michael,

    You seem to believe in your own doctrine in that only those who can speak in tongues have received the Holy Ghost. I am sorry to tell you this but you are wrong. Others have posted much Scripture on this that you seem to want to ignore. Nit picking verses like Mark 16 and thinking Jude 1:20 is the same as speaking in tongues. Seeming to have more zeal for different tongues than the teachings of Christ and the Word of God in the Holy Scriptures. God knows when we pray to Him no matter what, of the thousands, of languages it is in. God reads hearts not just an angelic tongue.

    . 2 Corinthians 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

    Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

    Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    God Bless those who have the gift of speaking in unknown tongues. Like I stated before I see no use for this gift and am not interested in asking for it. My Father and Lord Jesus Christ know when I am speaking/praying to them.

    I wish you well on your journey. God Bless.
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Romans 8:9 - 3 years ago
    Hey Michael,

    I will do my best to answer your question of "How do you pray in the Holy Ghost" from Jude 1:20. Others may want to give their view on this also.

    In my experience as I have only been saved by the Lord Jesus Christ for just under two years. My life has taken many turns from a power not of my own. Experiencing miracles of healing, repenting from things of this world, and my prayer life that was non existent before being led to the Lord. I will testify that the Holy Spirit has taught me how to pray. As starting out praying I would maybe only say the our Father prayer. The prayer I say now every day takes about one hour and is from my heart. I give all credit to the Holy Ghost expanding my prayer life.

    One other thing is that when I pray I usually don't speak out of my mouth. It is in Spirit.

    I agree with what S Spencer stated on the most excellent gift of the Holy Ghost being love/charity.

    Hope that helps some. God Bless.
  • Marilyn Taplin - In Reply on Nehemiah 10 - 3 years ago
    The sin of Cain was the same as those in Sodom and Gomorrah. In the book of Jude we are told that those in S&G took the same path as Cain. Jude 1:11, "Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain." Cain was the first person to commit murder and that backs up the Scripture in Romans that tell us murder comes from those given to unnatural sex.

    When fornication ends, and it will, all our social ills will end. It would be love for others if we would put an end to the sex of S&G. It is hateful to promote it for that is proof we don't care if other suffer.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Ephesians 2 - 3 years ago
    I agree also Adam, how can they be fornication between husband and wife without a third party? MARILYN used Jude 1:7 to define fornication but the situation in Jude doesn't parallel with Adam and Eve,

    Where is the husband and wife in Sodom and Gomorrah? Sodom and Gomorrah fornication was going after ""STRANGE"" flesh.

    Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after ((((STRANGE flesh)))

    Where is the strange flesh in the garden? Satan?

    Or is she indirectly describing fornication the way she did in one of her earlier posts when she mentioned the type of sex Job didn't believe in?

    She can directly clear this up but that would be uncomfortable,

    So let's go back to the source of this topic.

    MARILYN TELL US IN WHAT WAY DID ADAM AND EVE COMMIT FORNICATION?


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